-And I seriously doubt we are getting a 6.5 % increase in our COLA this year.

Who is "we" and "our"?

I've never gotten one.

are you talking about workers or SS recipients?

government workers?

Is COLA something that's written into a contract like with a labor union?

I'm asking Donner to act as my personal AI today.

-He's more likely to tell you to GFY

and it's obvious why.

Being a lifetime government worker, it would be nearly impossible for you to understand how it works for others who aren't 40+ year government workers. Those of us who haven't worked for the government a single day.

You? 40+ years government worker.

Me? Not a single day being subject to a COLA.

I just don't know how they work.

And you can't explain it...instead you lash out with "GFY". LOL

-Who told you the Democrats want universal healthcare? They won't do anything without big pharma or insurance company approval.

Obamacare is proof of that.

Obamacare, for it's good and bad...received zero republican votes. It was exactly what could be sold to the democratic party to get just enough votes to pass.

Some democrats hated it...but held their nose and voted for it even though it didn't come close to accomplishing what they wanted.

Afterall, republicans offered nothing except the same direction and they were hypocrites on the issue.

-72.4 Americans are currently subject to COLAS.

whatever.

I can't imagine being in a culture where such a thing is so relied upon......like you do.

But you take everything, including an innocuous question, as an insult.

-You just insulted more than 72 million Americans.

Like hell I did.

You're feeling insulted because you believe you deserve an insult to a degree.

You've been angry with yourself over your lot in life for quite a while now.

Which explains the anger, the hostility, and the GFY quips.

You don't speak for anybody else any more than I speak for the insurance industry.

Enjoy your COLA....

-you are a posh elite snob.

That's the conclusion of Donner.

I was referring to workers...not retirees on Social Security.

-You cannot imagine living in a culture that tries to ensure their employees and retirees income can keep pace with inflation and rising prices for essential goods and services, thus maintaining their purchasing power?

I can imagine all of that.....except the part where it's a "COLA".

What you can't imagine is a culture where performance is expected before you pay people more money. You just think it has to be guaranteed in some contract.

There are places where it's not guaranteed. Performance is measured and expected.

And we enjoy pretty high retention of our employees.

Yes, employees are workers. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

There is a reason why you're always so worked up and misunderstanding things.

Why don't you just skip to the end of this conversation where you stomp off like a 13 year old girl and pretend you have something else to get to?

Because you're getting your tiny little balls stomped on.

This is all because you are pissed off that I admittingly know next to nothing about COLAs?

You took that ignorance as insult?

How ------- low can your self-worth be for that to happen?

-My pay doubled since I finished grad school. That kind of culture?

Since I don't know how long it's been since you finished grad school, I have no idea if that' much of an accomplishment or not.

If you finished grad school 25 years ago....then you're pretty ------ bad at math.

If you finished a few years ago, then it's significant.

If we assume the latter.....is your compensation so much higher just because you finished grad school or because your work is simply worth more?

Eberly -"I've never gotten a COLA"

Donner -"GFY!!!"

wow....

-AND I expected those regular raises I got when I had my consistent outstanding job performance ratings.

so the COLAs aren't guaranteed if your performance sucks?

why didn't you say so? Oh....because you're obviously not much of a communicator.

"...who depends on the government"

not sure where that comes from. Yes, work comp and auto liability(with some exemptions) are government mandated coverages...the rest is forced on them by the banks who finance property, equipment, autos, etc.

Oh, and the other giants (railroads, Cargill, ADM, etc) who force high liablity limits by contract.

I'm quite appreciative of all of it.

-But as I said I don't expect one now.

I never expect them. But if I feel underpaid, I'm outta here.....

not possible for you?

-Are you also new to knowing what inflation is?

nope

I'm a consumer. I buy cars, tuition, houses, and healthcare.......and you know all of that....but you ask anyway?

"your stupid lies."

Jesus...I missed this little gem

I lied?

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And there it is....you finally just came out with it.

You are so married to what you get in compensation that you're forced to believe everyone else gets them?

You're struggling with YOUR bias....not mine.

-Prove you have never gotten a "cost of living wage adjustment".

Easy. Here goes......I've never gotten a cost of living wage adjustment.

1. most of my earning are incentives. commissions, bonuses, overrides, etc. salary is a small part of my total compensation.

2. It's simply not expected in my role. I have some administrative folks who get occasional raises for no other reason that it's just time.....but nobody calls it a COLA. That implies it's expected regardless of performance and we're not having any of that.

I didn't make these rules nor did they start once I got here....this is how it's been.

-Still desperately trying to insult Americans?

for the moment, only 1.

And it's working pretty well, BTW.

-You will have a steady income has long as folks are required to have insurance by the government.

Wrong. They don't have to buy it from me.

-COLAs have been around since the 1950s

I'm familiar with the term. I also didn't talk to you like you don't know what they are. I merely explained I've never had them.

You're on the record as calling me a liar because you've gotten them...I must be getting them.

-You can't imagine a Cost Of Living Adjustment that is pegged to, and intended to offset, the rate of inflation, for people on a Defined Benefit plan like Social Security?

And for the third time at least...I was referring to workers. not SS recipients.

I'm not pretending or lying when I say I struggle to imagine such a culture...one that relies on COLAs.

I've never worked in one. I've said so many times already.

-But I hope it makes you feel better that "nobody is calling it a COLA".

we don't. It's called a raise and it comes with a "good job....here is your raise and your bonus"....type message.

Not, "here is your COLA".

And you believe me. I don't have to prove anything.

"I am calling you a liar"......because you're out anything new to attempt to insult me with.

I'm not insulted. Keep trying though.

You're losing. You even have help...and you're still losing.

"That's such an awful take, primarily because ow how wrong it is.
The reason "it's just time" is called inflation, but you are really intent on denying that fact.
"It's just time" doesn't indicate any sort of change in performance at all."

low level admin folks who get an hourly wage or a relatively low salary.

It's the equivalent to a COLA but we won't call it that.

"you weaselly little ----."

I choose to talk to you for just a little bit....and this is the thanks?

LOL

"you cannot prove you have never in your life gotten a wage increase not directly tied to your performance either in your contract or not."

well now....anybody with a room temperature IQ knows that's impossible.

They don't care enough about you to tell you that Donner but they are all saying it to themselves right not.

I've had 3 professional roles. First one? 100% commission Second one? 100% commission. Third one? 40% salary and the rest incentives. I've never gotten a wage increase that wasn't tied to performance.

"How long have you been struggling with being an American who actually cares about other Americans?"

I've never said I don't care about other Americans. I haven't even attacked COLAs. I'm not against them.

I simply said I can't imagine such an environment or culture. That's the significance. I don't understand. Not I don't care or it's wrong.

Man....you are one ------ angry dude.

"You struggle to imagine working in a union job.
You struggle to imagine being a cop, or a soldier."

correct on both.

I also struggle to imagine being on unemployment.

-You struggle to imagine one of the largest growth engines of the United States economy, the United States automobile industry after the Second World War.

I'm struggling to imagine working in one of those companies, yes.

I'm not struggling to imagine its existence.

You're pretending to be under some delusion you're educating me on how labor works in this country.

we all know the truth....that's it's not possible you could educate anyone on it...much less me.

you're getting talked to.

It's fun. You're getting attention. That's good. Although I'm not sure it's healthy.

God only knows what's up Donner's ass.....taking everything as insult.

That's a low self-esteem at work right there.

"I'm so crazy mad I'm choosing to be insulted on behalf of over 72 million Americans."

FT

The truth is Donner can't imagine working in a culture such as the one I work in.

It scares the living ---- out of him. The thought of being held accountable for performance and having his compensation ride on it.........every day.

-But you are "struggling" to live in a society that offers them.

not at all.

I can't imagine changing a tampon but that doesn't mean I'm struggling to be married to a woman.

-So why did you say it?

because it's 100% the truth....and you know it.

"But I cannot help you."

I also struggle to imagine someone with your floor level self-esteem helping anyone.

"You've spent the whole thread regaling us with woeful tales of your lifelong struggle.
The struggle to believe in the existence of union jobs with scheduled compensation increases designed to offset inflation."

You've interpreted everything I've posted to mean "I'm successful and you're not".

Does it feel like I'm talking down to you a little bit....and Donner as well?

excluding the normal insults and just focus on the core issue....my lack of understanding is some cryptic way to simply place myself on a throne and look down on the rest of you serfs?

-Sitting there doing nothing but insulting Americans

This from someone who's trashes anybody who didn't vote the way you think they should.

I'm not insulting anybody except those who are desiring to be insulted.

you and snoofy. Everyone else is staying away from this.

-But quick to denigrate

This from someone who denigrates millions and millions of Americans every day here.

I sure as hell don't do that.

-No one here is gonna help with those kind of struggles.

Something tells me I'll sleep fine tonight not knowing what it's like to work in a place like where you work.

But I don't wish anything bad on you or snoofy. If you're happy.....then I'm happy.

It is slow here today.

And the money rolls in here where I work pretty routinely.

I'm glad we don't have COLAs here...mostly because I'm afraid it would stifle development and discourage folks from working harder, challenging themselves, and outperforming their peers.

Perhaps that's my capitalistic attitude at work and we certainly don't want to lose our best employees.

who have I denigrated except you and snoofy?

don't waste your time trying to be offended on behalf of anyone except yourself.

who have I denigrated? Anybody who gets a COLA?

--------. I merely admitted I struggle to imagine such an environment. Not that it's a bad environment. I'm not judging anyone except me.

Again, sans donner and snoofy

-Something tells me my career was a way better "job" than you will ever have with your government sponsored insurance salesman gig.

Did I ever say otherwise?

"government sponsored insurance salesman gig."

You've typed that many times now. You're quite obsessed with that....

I don't know what you do except that you've mentioned you were in the military and you went to work for the government after the military.

You've been a government employee virtually your entire adult life? Is that correct?

I couldn't care less what you do nor how much you make.

All I know is that you are concerned your COLA won't happen next time.

-Listen, Eberly.

back to the back of the bus......

-Blinding you to what it's like be a government worker these days with the cost of living fluctuating so wildly you can't keep up.

That reads like it's not very fun "these days" and BTW when have you not relied on a COLA?

You just typed " my career was a way better "job" than you will ever have".

It's a little contradictory, isn't it?

One day you wake up and Donald Trump is your boss. ----...is that what it's like to work for the Federal Government?

-You said people with COLA in their contacts are getting raises they didn't earn and don't deserve.

cute. lie...but cute.

you you you....sniveling little ----.

LOL

-you are so wrapped up in the myth of the meritocracy that you can't understand how life operates outside that mythical construct.

hard to believe why you've been unemployed so many times.......

-COLA increase is a valid concern for 70 million people.

some of them voted for Trump.

and I've seen the empathy for those folks here........so please keep lecturing me on empathy.

"if he said he served his country,"

Again with the hypocrisy.

Donner served his country

Boaz is a black moocher.

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you dumfuq. this is why nobody talks to you.

done.

-I had one of the best fricking jobs in the world.

if you say so. Good for you. Notice how I'm not attacking that?

Look at yourself. You're wrapped in jealousy, resentment, and you're very upset with someone who's not denigrated your profession.

that's what's happened here. You're losing your ---- over.....honestly....I really don't know.

why are you so angry?

-What have you done for America Beverly?

Boaz talks to anybody here like that and you guys lose your minds.

Here you are.......Boazboy. You're the same.

"I guarantee it was better than yours and saved more American lives and helped many more Americans than you will ever even consider helping.
I am very proud of the work I did for America."

I was talking about working in a job where a COLA was part of the culture and the environment.

Look where your rage took this argument.

-Eberly's kicking his dog.

Snoofy's not a dog.

he's more of a hissing cat that gets kicked off the chair when people are sick of looking at him.

Because my compensation has largely been incentive based and not salary heavy....I've always lived well below my income.

Years ago, I was at a party and someone there (union worker I think) was complaining that his raise was only 3% and not the 4% he was expecting and he was worried about affording his mortgage which was going up a little. I thought to myself why on earth does this guy live so thin he is worried he can't afford house over 1% of his income?

Times like that I feel very lucky to have gone the route I did.

-So I sound angry?

extremely. so angry you are insulted over a non-insult and retorted with all kinds of personal jabs at me.

Yea......you sound angry.

"you are still just a rat in a cage."

WTF does that mean?

You were just complaining about the COLA you fear you won't get.

I'm a rat in a cage?

someone could have responded with something like this...."you haven't experienced a place where COLAs are a typical part of compensation but it doesn't mean it's bad...but it's a reality for 72 million Americans and it's been essential in organizations where you can't measure success as easily as you can in an insurance agency that measures success on their revenue from commissions and services".

Something like that.