Friday, November 07, 2025

Hungary has a closed border; Europe sanctions them for it

The Associated Press reported that in June 2024, the European Union's top court ordered Hungary to pay a $223 million fine for depriving migrants of their right to apply for asylum and an additional fine of 1 million euros per day for failing to comply.

Comments

Who said there is a RIGHT to apply to a country that's not yours?

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-07 02:42 PM

What is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
The UDHR is a milestone international document that sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms to which all human beings are entitled. Think of it as a global blueprint for dignity and equality.

When was it created? It was proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly in Paris on December 10, 1948, in the aftermath of World War II. The goal was to ensure the atrocities of that conflict would never be repeated.

Who wrote it? It was drafted by representatives from diverse legal and cultural backgrounds from all regions of the world, with Eleanor Roosevelt chairing the drafting committee.

What does it do? It consists of 30 Articles that define our basic rights"from the right to life and freedom from torture to the right to education and the right to seek asylum.
The UDHR is founded on several core ideas:

Universality: These rights belong to everyone, everywhere, regardless of race, color, religion, sex, language, political opinion, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status. You don't have to earn them; you are born with them.

Inalienable: These rights cannot be taken away.

Indivisible: You cannot pick and choose which rights apply. Civil/political rights (like free speech) and economic/social/cultural rights (like the right to work) are all equally important.

#2 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2025-11-07 03:20 PM

Closed border? I got in no problem. Paprika!

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-07 03:21 PM

What is the Right of Asylum?
The right of asylum is the protection granted by a sovereign state to an individual who is seeking refuge from persecution in their home country. It is a fundamental human right, enshrined in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution."

The core principle is that a country must not expel or return an individual to a territory where their life or freedom would be threatened. This is known as the principle of non-refoulement.

(From AI)

#4 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2025-11-07 03:29 PM

#2,

You only have a right to what the mob says you have or what you can defend yourself.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-07 04:03 PM

What is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

There is a woman being raped in Africa somewhere right now. How does this document protect her in the moment she is being raped?

Answer, it doesnt. Until another man comes along and beats up the man who was raping her, she has no rights at that moment. She only has the right to be taken. It's called nature. Those are the "rights" we have.

Anything else is just bullshit and liberal/progressive wishful thinking.

If someone else has to provide you the "right", it isnt a right.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-07 04:08 PM

Who said there is a RIGHT to apply to a country that's not yours?

#1 | Posted by boaz

The EU charter when Hungary signed up to be an EU member.

home-affairs.ec.europa.eu

You can't ever help shoving both of your feet in your own ignorant mouth, can you?

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-07 04:09 PM

You only have a right to what the mob says you have or what you can defend yourself.

#5 | Posted by boaz

Didn't take much for Trump to turn you into a little anti-Constitution, anti-American skidmark, did it?

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-07 04:09 PM

Boaz got cucked.

So he comes here to whine.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-07 04:10 PM

There is a woman being raped in Africa somewhere right now.

Same with the USA.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-07 04:21 PM


There is a woman being raped in Africa somewhere right now.
Same with the USA.

#10 | POSTED BY REDIAL

And Canada.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:29 PM

And Europe.

And Russia.

And China.

And Australia.

Men raping women is a tale as old as time.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-07 04:39 PM

Bo@ss ain't getting it. SAD!

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-07 05:47 PM

#5 The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution has done nothing (0) for the United States of America .

Absolutely nothing.

#14 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-07 07:29 PM

It's killed a lot of school students and innocent people.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-07 07:36 PM

The bi-partisan bill that Pres Biden was willing to sign significantly tightened up the required needed to apply for asylum.

I agree, that the asylum requirements were being abused, with potential asylum-seekers being coached along their way into the US, telling them what to say to the agents they talked with at the border.

It was all set for bi-partisan approval by Congress, until candidate Trump commanded Republicans to reject it.

So, it seems Pres Trump and the Republicans were against the reform of our asylum laws?

Why?




#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-07 07:55 PM

"If someone else has to provide you the "right", it isnt a right."

Say the most Un-American thing you can possibly say.

FFS, dude, isn't America's entire feel-good history centered around restoring rights some despot has taken away???

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-07 08:35 PM

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