Monday, December 01, 2025

How the Democrats Blew It on Gaza

Less than two weeks after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack, President Joe Biden traveled to Israel and held Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in an embrace. The image captured the solidarity Americans felt with Israelis after they suffered such horrific violence. It also symbolized a political and governing reflex within the Democratic Party. During the Biden presidency, it was shorthanded the "hug Bibi" strategy " the idea that smothering Mr. Netanyahu with unconditional support would give the U.S. leverage to influence his actions.

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Over the final 15 months of the Biden presidency, this approach led the White House to provide a flood of weapons for Israel's bombardment of Palestinians, veto United Nations Security Council resolutions calling for a cease-fire, attack the International Criminal Court for pursuing charges against Mr. Netanyahu, ignore its own policies about supporting military units credibly accused of war crimes and blame Hamas for not accepting cease-fire terms that the Israeli government was also rejecting.

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Benjamin Netanyahu's brutal pogrom against the Palestinians has now exceeded 70,000 deaths with the killing of two children in Gaza yesterday. My pencil and paper calculations this spring predicted 72,000 Palestinian deaths by the end of the year, but the ersatz ceasefire slowed down the IDF killing machine considerably, but not altogether. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank continues apace.


So, good luck to any American candidate from either party, Democratic or Republican, who is seeking national office in 2028 that accepts blood money from AIPAC. The hardworking American taxpayer and the multi-million strong antiwar bloc is watching. Rather than vote for Israeli Murder-Death-Kill of Palestinians, antiwar Samaritans and progressive voters will stay home on Tuesday 7 Nov 2028.

International arrest warrants issued by the ICC for war crimes remain active for Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Russia President Vladimir Putin, both of whom are filthy sides of the same murderous coin. But remember, indictments are merely allegations. Both Messrs Netanyahu and Putin are to be presumed innocent until they are proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt at international tribunals to be held for them at future dates within the Hague.

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 08:59 AM

They made it the singular issue they chose to vote on and ushered in the current nightmare with their short sighted stupidity?

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 10:39 AM

And no, I don't support the war in Gaza one bit.

I'm just levelheaded enough to see the bigger picture and act accordingly.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 10:46 AM

Bigger picture?

I don't know what you mean.

Genocide in real time, funded by American Taxpayers. That's big picture enough.

Biden was all in with Israeli excesses.

He was President, the buck stopped with him.

He should have grown a Spine and Cut off the Chosen. No money, no Weapons, No Assistance.

If he had Trump would have lost.

Even if Kamala had said she would change policy and stop aiding the Massacres she would have won.

But NO, AIPAC needed lockstep Fealty to Netanyahu and Mass Murder.

Even if Trump IS Worse, They Screwed the pooch by not separating themselves from Israel.

The Bigger picture is that Israel policy is Insane on both sides of the aisle and blaming people against that for Trump's win is Counterproductive and not Accurate.

Its just another Democratic circular firing squad.

Playing into the Republicans claims.

#4 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-01 11:10 AM

He should have grown a Spine and Cut off the Chosen. No money, no Weapons, No Assistance.
If he had Trump would have lost.

If you'd been grown up enough to know that not voting would result in a Trump win and a continuation of the Gaza war without any chance of change Trump would have lost.

But you didn't. You acted like a petulant child.

blaming people against that for Trump's win is Counterproductive and not Accurate.

I'm sorry you don't like to be made aware of the consequences of you short sighted stupidity, but thems the facts.

More evidence you have some serious growing up to do.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 11:25 AM

Playing into the Republicans claims.

#4 | Posted by Effeteposer

Nope. That conclusion is clear as day.

Trump didn't win by significantly gaining more voters or swaying people to his side. He won by keeping his rabid, cult base behind him while the Dems lost voters.

You admit to being one of those lost votes by staying home and pouting over this.

And now we have to deal with the consequences of that, as I've already said, short-sighted stupidity.

So thank you, -----, for being part of the problem and foisting this garbage on the rest of us.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 11:28 AM

Hi JPW:

When one speaks to members of the War Resister's League (or Code Pink and other antiwar groups), you will see that they are neither short-sighted nor stupid. Code Pink had the largest, loudest protest against Dummkopf Trumpf's cabinet appointments earlier this year when they rallied against Pete "Hic!" Hegseth at his US Senate confirmation hearing. Their volunteers were carried out of the chambers by USCP officers.

Simply put, the antiwar bloc is empathetic to victims of war. To them, the taking of life is more terrible than living in economic deprivation. This is also a tent of Buddhism.

The question for 2028 becomes who needs this bloc of pacifists more to win nationally, the Democrats or the Republicans? Insulting the antiwar/anti-AIPAC bloc won't bring them under the 'Big Tent' to defeat the Republicans.

The Democrats can run plenty of non-AIPAC candidates which will secure the antiwar bloc in order to help oust the GOP in 2028, unless the Democrats think they can win nationally without them.

Link: www.warresisters.org

#7 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 11:29 AM

Typo corrected in #7: "Simply put, the antiwar bloc is empathetic to victims of war. To them, the taking of life is more terrible than living in economic deprivation. This is also a tenet of Buddhism."

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 11:40 AM

you will see that they are neither short-sighted nor stupid.

Incorrect. We're living the evidence of both of those statements being true.

Code Pink had the largest, loudest protest against Dummkopf Trumpf's cabinet appointments earlier this year when they rallied against Pete "Hic!" Hegseth at his US Senate confirmation hearing. Their volunteers were carried out of the chambers by USCP officers.

Who cares. 'Yeah! we protested an incompetent candidate that we wouldn't have had to protest if only we hadn't been so short-sighted and stupid! Yeah! We really showed them!'

That's not the dunk you think it is. In fact, it facepalm worthy, sad laugh inducing...wait for it...short-sighted stupidity.

To them, the taking of life is more terrible than living in economic deprivation.

That would be a heartwarming sentiment if it wasn't so ridiculous. We're living in far more than "economic deprivation" and they still didn't get what they wanted anyway and have zero chance of getting it under this administration.

Throwing a tantrum that results in far worse conditions than otherwise had to exist is not a righteous action. Can you guess what it is?

Short. Sighted. Stupidity.

The question for 2028 becomes who needs this bloc of pacifists more to win nationally, the Democrats or the Republicans?

That's not a question at all. The Republicans don't need you to vote for them, they just need you to continue your tantrum and not vote for anyone.

In other words, they need you to remain short sighted and stupid.

Insulting the antiwar/anti-AIPAC bloc won't bring them under the 'Big Tent' to defeat the Republicans.

The hopelessly self-righteous aren't going to be swayed by anything but their own ego anyway. I don't insult to try and gain support they won't give, I insult because you and them are major players in ensuring I will be leaving a destroyed, s&^% country and world for my sons to live on in.

And for that I will never ever respect you or them.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 11:41 AM

#9: My family and I all voted for Kamala Harris.

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 11:56 AM

Well then thank you. You can remove the "you" part from the above.

Rest holds true for those who didn't vote despite knowing the result of that dereliction of their civic duty.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 12:06 PM

Of course, the eleven million AIPAC gave to Biden had some sway..

Corporate Centrists and their greedy, bigoted uninformed were "swayed" by Biden.

Zionism is a disease.

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-01 12:30 PM

Benjamin Netanyahu's brutal pogrom against the Palestinians has now exceeded 70,000 deaths with the killing of two children in Gaza yesterday. My pencil and paper calculations this spring predicted 72,000 Palestinian deaths by the end of the year, but the ersatz ceasefire slowed down the IDF killing machine considerably, but not altogether. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank continues apace.
So, good luck to any American candidate from either party, Democratic or Republican, who is seeking national office in 2028 that accepts blood money from AIPAC. The hardworking American taxpayer and the multi-million strong antiwar bloc is watching. Rather than vote for Israeli Murder-Death-Kill of Palestinians, antiwar Samaritans and progressive voters will stay home on Tuesday 7 Nov 2028.
International arrest warrants issued by the ICC for war crimes remain active for Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Russia President Vladimir Putin, both of whom are filthy sides of the same murderous coin. But remember, indictments are merely allegations. Both Messrs Netanyahu and Putin are to be presumed innocent until they are proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt at international tribunals to be held for them at future dates within the Hague.
#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 08:59 AM

By what maths can that number be even close to realistic?!

FFS - it's closer to 700,000 now, and undoubtedly exceeds that.

#13 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-01 12:32 PM

Pope Leo XIV reiterated calls for a two-state solution:

""We are also friends with Israel and we try with both sides to be a mediating voice that can help bring them closer to a solution with justice for all."

Source: www.firstpost.com

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 12:49 PM

Trump wasn't making policy. Biden was.

Voting for Kamala when she said nothing would change in Gaza If she won was UNACCEPTABLE.

Her denying any Palestinians a voice at her acceptance of the nomination showed me that she was little or NO better than Trump on this issue.

Maybe suffering under the heel of that ------- will wake some people up about the Consequences of Funding and Enabling Mass Murder and Ethnic Cleansing.

Our Penance as a Nation is to be weakened and undermined by Fools.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-01 01:13 PM

Grow the f(*& up, idiot. You approach the world with the angst and misguided, myopic anger of a child.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 01:20 PM

The Pope is misguided.

Israel is a Pariah.

Beyond the Pale.

That should,in a Rational world be Sanctioned and Bombed until they stop the Slaughter.

Where is Nato? why is there no "DUTY TO PROTECT" Palestinians? Palestinians are treated as Expendible to Israeli Ambitions for their Lands and Chattels. Murder is the Norm and American Taxpayers foot the bill.

Yugoslavia was partitioned and the KLA given Kosovo. They were an Albanian Drug Gang into Organ harvesting on the side... Not Angels.

Hamas has more integrity and a better human rights record. But Serbia is Allied with Russia, if that explains anything.

Or is Israel just too Precious to Deny anything they ask for?

Is the issue that the Palestinians deserve no help, or is it that Israel is just too Important to not Enable in Every possible way?

If Sanctions, Bombing, and Partition to protect a drug gang was acceptable for Yugoslavia, why is Israel, committing far worse crimes, being Aided and Abetted in their war of Annihilation against the Palestinians?

Askin' for a Friend.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-01 01:33 PM

Where is Nato?

Gaza is not really their gig.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-01 01:51 PM

Askin' for a Friend.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer

You're acting on a false dichotomy.

I'm saying that that is foolish.

Show me a single post of mine that supports the war in Gaza. Go for it.

Or I can save you the time and tell you you won't find one.

Because I agree it should be stopped and that the world as a whole has failed to meaningfully intervene in that conflict for a long long time.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 02:16 PM

Really? It's not?

Libya was. Just sitting there. Not bothering anybody. They got Bombed and became a Failed State. Because Quaddafi was not Liked.

But Israel commits open War Crimes for Years.. Openly proclaims a policy of Extermination by National Leaders....

Kills, Medics, Bombs Hospitals, Starves Children, Murders Journalists.

Crickets.

Why was NATO involved in Libya but won't intervene is Israel?

Israel is Committing Actual Genocide in Real Time as we Watch and Help Them Out with anything they need to Finish It.

What "Rules Based Order" is this?

Its just another Gang, Russia, China, NATO,

There is No "Rules Based Order".

Only REALPOLITIK...

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-01 02:26 PM

Why was NATO involved in Libya but won't intervene is Israel?

Mostly money. Libya didn't have much and, as you said, Qaddafi was not liked.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-01 02:32 PM

Only REALPOLITIK...

Yikes. Busted out the strop for that edge, huh?

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 02:45 PM

FYI about Libya:

"Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday returned home after spending 20 days in prison. Sarkozy was granted conditional release pending his appeals trial, less than three weeks after being handed a five-year prison sentence for conspiring to raise campaign funds from ex-Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi."

Source: www.france24.com

#23 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 02:50 PM

As a party, democrats suck. They only thing they got going for them is that republicans are much worst.

#24 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-12-02 04:41 PM

#24 Yeah! If Democrats didn't suck they could have had this kind of election last month:

-> Georgia voters ousted two Republican members of the state's Public Service Commission in favor of two Democrats"the first Democrats to win statewide nonfederal offices in decades.

-> Democrats in Mississippi Break the G.O.P.'s State House Supermajority

-> Every single county in Virginia - even deeply red counties - saw shifts TOWARDS the Democrats, as opposed to how they voted 1 year ago.

-> Dems flip Wichita School Board from a 4-3 GOP majority to a 5-2 Democratic majority. Democratic candidates Amy Warren and Amy Jensen defeated Republican incumbents Hazel Stabler and Kathy Bond.

->Two of Tuesday's school board elections were in Bucks County, Pa., which was considered "ground zero" for right-wing groups' takeover of school boards in 2021. A few years ago, conservatives on these boards in Pennbridge and Central Bucks districts were using their roles to pass policies targeting LGBTQ+ students and banning books.

---> Democrats flipped control of both boards in 2023, and on Tuesday, they ousted every Republican from both of these boards, except for one. The Pennbridge school board is now 8-1, with Democratic members in control. The Central Bucks school board is 9-0.

-> In Texas, we even won in Lockhart, which sits in a district so red that Democrats normally don't even run. We had a clean sweep in Cy-Fair ISD, another deeply red area that not even Greg Abbott could save your party.

-> In SD-9, another red district, we saw an 8 point shift for the Democrat


RIght?

#25 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-02 04:44 PM

How accurate, but here's an AIPAC list of happy customers.

www.trackaipac.com

#26 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-12-02 06:41 PM

Who's the new sock puppet?

#27 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-12-02 08:03 PM

#27 Petrous?

#28 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-02 08:16 PM

#25

The only thing they got going for them is that REPUBLICANS ARE MUCH WORSE.

#29 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-12-03 08:17 AM


Libya didn't have much and, as you said, Qaddafi was not liked.
#21 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Libya has enormous undeveloped oil reserves. Obama wanted it for his friends and family.
Lumpers said nothing NOT one thing to the destruction of a sovereign nation, just going about its business.

Now you complain about GAZA, Venuezula ... LOL Americans and 1 Canadian... hilarious.

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-03 09:04 AM

I wasn't for any NATO interventions in Yugoslavia or Libya.

Israel is a different case.

Bomb the ---- out of them.

They need bombing more than most countries.

Proud Ethnobigots need To Be Bombed.

Bomb,Bomb,Bomb,Bomb,Bomb Tel Aviv.

To Quote John McCain.

#31 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-03 09:21 AM

"Bomb the ---- out of them."

Just for fun? Or would there be an end-state to accompany that bombing?

#32 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-12-03 09:56 AM

The End state would be like Yugoslavia.

Partition and peacekeepers to prevent Genocide. Arrest and War Crimes trials for the Israeli leaders.

"Samaria and Judea" given to the Palestinians like Kosovo was to the KLA.

If it was good enough for Serbia?

Israel is doing far more Murders than the Serbs were.

They also claim territory in surrounding countries.

Another Crime.

#33 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-03 10:20 AM

Between 1992 and 1995 (three years), using small arms fire and artillery rounds lobbed safely at a distance into Sarajevo, Bosnian Serbian and Croatian paramilitaries killed approximately 25,609 to 33,071 Bosnian Muslims. This number includes the 8,372 Bosniaks butchered in the 11 - 13 July 1995 Srebrenica massacre. Many Bosnian women were also raped during that three-day pogrom. These figures are exclusive of Bosnian Army casualties that died in combat: 30,906. The Bosnian Army was inclusive and I dealt with a Bosnian Serb who was a Colonel in the BiH Army. Other Bosnian Serbs and Croats served in the BiH Army as well.

In far less time than three years, the IDF liquidated over 70,000 Muslims in Gaza and the West Bank (7 Oct 2023 to 3 Dec 2025).

Today, Serbian and Croatian war criminals convicted of massacring Bosnian Muslims are serving their sentences in prisons across Europe after the ICTY at the Hague closed. They are wondering why they were prosecuted, convicted, and sentenced for the exact same crimes that the IDF is perpetrating on the Muslims of Gaza and the West Bank.

Source:

www.icty.org


#34 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-03 10:47 AM

They weren't "Chosen" by God to kill Muslims.

They don't have the Religious Street Cred to get the US behind their Massacres.

Yugoslavia was a distant, Unfamiliar ally of Russia.

They got pummeled because they didn't have good lobbyists to represent them to Congress and the American People.

AIPAC is the Best Money the Israeli Government ever Spent.

Between buying Congress and having a compelling Narrative about the founding of "plucky" Israel they are now enabled to,"Finish it".

To Quote the Ogre.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-03 11:38 AM

They made it the singular issue they chose to vote on and ushered in the current nightmare with their short sighted stupidity?
#2 | Posted by jpw

Some people did.
Just like some people would never vote for a black man, or any woman, or a Catholic.
Such are their principles.

Just like some Bernie Bros didn't vote for Hillary -- because of their principles. And ushered in the previous nightmare with their short sighted stupidity.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-03 12:04 PM

@34 "Between 1830 and 1850, the "Trail of Tears," enforced under President Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Act, resulted in the deaths of thousands of Indigenous people. Estimates vary, but most sources agree that between 12,000 to 17,000 Indigenous people died during the entire Indian Removal process, including the forced marches. For the Cherokee Nation specifically, about 4,000 of the 16,000 who were forcibly relocated perished, roughly one-quarter of their population. Other tribes, such as the Choctaw, also suffered heavy losses, with about 6,000 deaths among 17,000 removed. Overall, the "Trail of Tears" caused the deaths of approximately 15,000 Indigenous people across all affected tribes and the forced displacement and ethnic cleansing of about 60,000 Native Americans of the "Five Civilized Tribes.'"

In three years, the Bosnian Serb and Croatian paramilitaries outdid the US Cavalry in terms of causing civilian deaths. Today's IDF outdid those 1990s Balkans Butchers. The Third Reich's Holocaust of six million Jews outdid the Ottoman Empire's "Trail of Tears" of 1.5 million Armenian civilians.

But hey, who's counting, right?

#37 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-03 01:58 PM

"The End state would be like Yugoslavia."

Yugoslavia disintegrated after the death of Josip Broz Tito. A few years before the various countries declared independence and started fighting each other.

You know Yugoslavia no longer exists, right?

"Samaria and Judea" given to the Palestinians like Kosovo was to the KLA."

Like, some sort of partition?

What part would remain Israeli?

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-12-03 02:53 PM

"Today, Serbian and Croatian war criminals convicted of massacring Bosnian Muslims are serving their sentences in prisons across Europe after the ICTY at the Hague closed."

As are the Bosniak Muslims who similarly committed crimes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're a relatively untraveled New Yorker. I have an apartment in Tirana, Albania. My best friend, an Albanian, spent 15 years working for KFOR in Kosovo. His wife is a Bosnian Muslim. I a few friends we refer to as "Kosovari."

I hate to break it to you champ, but Muslims in the Balkans are very different from your heroes in Hamas or ISIS or whatever. They spend their days drinking Rakia, not planning how to kill infidels. Go check out the Grand Mosque in Durres during prayer time. It's a bunch of dudes in tank tops and backwards-turned hats. Actually, maybe don't do it. I think their lack of Muslimness would only upset you.

#39 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-12-03 02:59 PM

The Sinai and the area around Tel Aviv.

The pre 1967 borders of Israel. More or less.

Yugoslavia broke up into several countries at War with each other.

I'm familiar with the basic outline of history there.

Israel was supposed to pull back to those areas after the 1967 war, they never did.

That's why Hamas attacked them among other reasons.

Israel just lies and steals. When they're not committing mass Murder.

Ideally they would just go back to the Dispora.

No Sane person wants a Judaic Theocracy Anywhere.

#40 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-03 03:05 PM

Bosnian Muslims were war criminals too.

Just like their Christian Brethren.

Just like Hamas is too.

Or Israel.

#41 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-03 03:08 PM

Some Bosnian Muslims conducted counter-massacres or reprisal killings of Bosnian Serb or Croats when they learned of the massacres against their communities. They were captured, indicted, and convicted at the Hague.

Footnote: When the Bosnian Serbs under Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic began their war against the Bosnian Muslims, it was Bosnian Muslim mafia crime gangs that quickly organized the defense of Sarajevo, initially saving the city until the BiH army was formed.

www.bygonely.com

#42 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-03 03:25 PM

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