Video Shows NY Officer Fatally Shooting Teen on Ground.

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... The teen was killed a little after 10 p.m. Friday in Utica after officers in the city about 240 miles (400 kilometers) northwest of Manhattan stopped two youths in connection with an armed robbery investigation, police said.

The youths, both 13, matched the descriptions of the robbery suspects and were in the same area at around the same time the day after, police said. One was also walking in the road, a violation of state traffic law.

The body camera video released by police captures an officer saying he needs to pat them down to ensure they don't have any weapons in their possession. Immediately one of the two, identified by police as as Nyah Mway, runs away.

Authorities froze frames of the video where a running Nyah Mway appears to point the gun at the pursuing officers. Police also edited the video to insert a red circle around the weapon to show it to viewers.

The officers believed it was a handgun, police said, but it was later determined to be a replica of a Glock 17 Gen 5 handgun with a detachable magazine.

This combination of images released by the Utica Police Department shows a replica of a Glock 17 Gen 5 handgun recovered after an officer fatally shot a 13-year-old boy who had been tackled to the ground after he ran from police and pointed the replica gun at them on Friday, June 28, 2024, in Utica, N.Y. (Utica, N.Y., Police Department via AP)

"During a ground struggle" with the teen, one of the officers fired a single shot that struck the boy in the chest, Utica Police Chief Mark Williams said.

The teen was given "immediate" first aid by the officers and taken to Wynn Hospital, where he died, the chief said.

The replica gun carried by the teen "is in all aspects a realistic appearing firearm with GLOCK markings, signatures, detachable magazine, and serial numbers," Lt. Michael Curley, a police spokesperson, said via email. "However ultimately it fires only pellets or BB's."

A bystander video posted to Facebook shows one of the officers chasing after Nyah Mway and tackling him to the ground. It also shows the officer punching the teen as two other officers arrive. A gunshot rings out as the teen is on the ground and the officers quickly stand up.

The officer who fired his gun was identified as Patrick Husnay, a six-year veteran of the agency. Husnay and Officers Bryce Patterson and Andrew Citriniti were placed on administrative leave with pay. ...

@#1 ... Authorities froze frames of the video where a running Nyah Mway appears to point the gun at the pursuing officers. Police also edited the video to insert a red circle around the weapon to show it to viewers. ...

Yeah, this is a main concern of mine regarding the video taken by police body cameras.

At this point, my opinion is that it is like allowing bank robbers to edit the video that was taken during their alleged crime.

The possession of police body camera video should not be in the control of the police or those in the chain of command of the police.

Sounds like the kid bolted to avoid having the gun found (which he may have been using for all sorts of hijinks that night). Was probably going to toss it and the cop reasonably thought it was real and about to be used against one of them.

As far as tampering with the video goes, these body cameras are routinely used as evidence. So highly likely there's multiple safeguards in place. I'm sure the family's lawsuit will reveal all of that as litigation proceeds.

@#3 ... As far as tampering with the video goes, these body cameras are routinely used as evidence. ...

Yup.

That is m concern.

Do you want a bank robber to own the security video within a bank?

Police tampering with the video evidence they control seems to be an appropriate description.

If the police want to earn the confidence of the public they serve, then I would say that such videos should be owned by some manner of a third party.

"So highly likely there's multiple safeguards in place."

Hahahaha.

Safeguards? No. I don't trust that at all.

Shades of "we investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing."

Exculpatory evidence from the police side should be examined for any digital artifacts of tampering.

But if found untampered with - just another sad case of kids doing something so monumentally stupid they will never get older to learn the lesson. Hopefully others will.

Summary on Axon evidence security here. www.axon.com

Axon is used by 1000's of police departments. So probably been subject to at least as many forensic audits by defendants trying to squirm out of incriminating camera footage.

But if found untampered with - just another sad case of kids doing something so monumentally stupid they will never get older to learn the lesson. Hopefully others will. #6 | Posted by zeropointnrg

So much stupidity. That kid, Tamir Rice walking around a playground with an airsoft gun where he had removed the fake gun orange tip. www.youtube.com Ma'Khia Bryant pulling back her hand with a knife while lunging at a girl. www.youtube.com

And then the parents play victim, because there's more money in that than admitting the kid was dumb, as kids tend to be.

Spirited defense of cops doing the right thing by gunning down... checks notes... dumb children.

A dumb child with a gun can still be deadly. They pull one, are you going to walk up and ask to check if it's real? It's hard to blame cops in that case.

And I hate cops.

A dumb child with a gun can still be deadly. They pull one, are you going to walk up and ask to check if it's real? It's hard to blame cops in that case.
And I hate cops.

#10 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG A

The thread has been so lost it's actually funny.

Easily avoidable tragedies are the supercalifragilisticexpialidocious bestest tragedies!

Personally I blame the Second Amendment which gives children sufficient access to firearms that police are justified gunning down children with toy guns.

I'll never understand how I'm in such a minority, thinking about it that way.

#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

One of the few arguments I have no answer for, despite being pro-gun. Self-defense for instance? Right back to my distaste for cops. When seconds count, they're only minutes away. Generally 30 or so, at that. Hunting? Not my thing, but I get it. Children being able to access guns? To put the DR censor bot to work - that ----- ------. And one more child is dead because of it.

At the least, I'd be open to smart locks only able to be keyed to one person. And no more sales of replicas that don't appear wildly fake - more so than just an orange tip you can remove.

[...] And no more sales of replicas that don't appear wildly fake - more so than just an orange tip you can remove.
#13 | Posted by zeropointnrg

As long as you don't trample on my 1st and 2nd Amendment right to make real guns look fake!

"being pro-gun"

What exactly does it mean to be pro-gun?

Does is mean you like playing with guns? Or is it a political outlook, and you think, e.g. society would be a better place if the homeless were armed?

Serious question.

They pull one, are you going to walk up and ask to check if it's real? It's hard to blame cops in that case.

No "walking up" in this case as it occurred during a "ground struggle." Maybe cops should be better at subduing 13 year olds before it comes down to killing them.

In my case, being kind of a weird left-libertarian (there are dozens of us - dozens!) I'm the kind of person who says arm minorities, arm women. I believe in the right to self-defense, and I don't believe in trusting law enforcement. Control freaks who have no problem taking a job taking away the lives and freedoms of people for victimless crimes including up until recently, smoking a harmless herb, shooting people's dogs, throwing grenades in baby's cribs at the wrong house and walking away without a scratch on their record? Who aren't going to arrive in time when you really need them and are only good for playing clean-up crew maids at a crime scene after the fact?

Nah, I'm ex-military, well trained, and would much rather have a gun I pray I never have to use. Because I'm also not some redneck with dreams of being Rambo, I've seen how people who have had to kill come back missing part of themselves. But I'll still take missing part of myself over all of myself in a worst case scenario.

And again, I think women and minorities should be armed and trained in self defense. In part, to even the odds, and along with everyone else because I recognize the reality that the right is correct on one aspect - make guns illegal, and the only people you disarm are the law abiding you didn't have to worry about in the first place, leaving only the criminals armed. Add in ever-advancing technology like 3D printing, and I just don't believe it's a genie that can be put back in the bottle.

Children should not have unsupervised access though, and parents who allow them to, even through negligence, should pay a hefty enough price others learn if they can't responsibly secure their arms, they shouldn't have them. That we can probably agree on.

No "walking up" in this case as it occurred during a "ground struggle." Maybe cops should be better at subduing 13 year olds before it comes down to killing them. #16 | POSTED BY JOE

You should put that into practice next time you're struggling with someone over a gun. The fact that it's a kid pulling the trigger doesn't change what a bullet does when fired into a body.

#14 | POSTED BY CENSORED AT 2024-07-01 07:03 PM | FLAG:

Lmao, a girl I know has a quite similar 9mm.

Lmao, a girl I know has a quite similar 9mm.
#19 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG

As the founding fathers intended when they enshrined our right to bear arms in the 2nd. :)

"You should put that into practice next time you're struggling with someone over a gun."

Doing that to someone who is fleeing would escalate the situation.

That's not how you disarm someone, unless you're planning on disarming them by killing them.

Keep defending killing children, it's your wheelhouse.

You should put that into practice next time you're struggling with someone over a gun.

It's not literally my job to do that. If it was and it ended this way, i would be ashamed for the rest of my life.

It's not literally my job to do that. If it was and it ended this way, i would be ashamed for the rest of my life.#22 | POSTED BY JOE

If you're planned response is to bring jujitsu to a gunfight, you likely would not have that job very long, in any event.

"You should put that into practice next time you're struggling with someone over a gun."

"It's not literally my job to do that."

It's not a cop's job requirement either.

They do it for fun.

I'm sure the family's lawsuit will reveal all of that as litigation proceeds.

#3 | Posted by censored at 2024-07-01 01:44 AM | Reply | Flag:
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IOW The hood lottery law suit.

#23 You seem to be ignoring that the post i originally responded to made a dramatic and generic claim that a cop would have to "walk up" and check if a gun is real, despite that not being the scenario in this case. Elongating the amount of time and effort required to see the weapon was likely an intentional argumentative device, so i called it out as inapplicable. I'm sorry that bothers you for some reason.

To a layman the gun in this case looks pretty real to me, so it probably doesn't make a difference anyway, but people should strive for accuracy when defending the killing of a child.

You liberals are -------, shooting unarmed Ashley Babbit was cheered on by you -------. Now you're upset that some thug got shot.

Sadly this is an embedded cultural issue. Single parent households have a difficult time teaching commonsense,respect and responsibility. Many have been taught families and real social learning such as occurs with church are passe. Those on lower economic rungs have it worse.

Until we can culturally restore what we once had via education,economic security, real positive social connections like religion, family, and competent political leadership there will be no solution. This kid was taught stupidity.

You liberals are -------, shooting unarmed Ashley Babbit was cheered on by you -------. Now you're upset that some thug got shot.

Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-01 10:46 PM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by lfthndthrds

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I heard someone say once when an older teen took a swing at their Dad, and the Dad clocked him. The mom was pissed and the husband said throw big boy punches win big boy prizes.

That's what this kid did here regardless of how bleeding heart liberal snoofy wants to get. You don't take a realistic gun, point it at police and expect them to keep treating you like yoo jus a widdle kiddie.

'You don't take a realistic gun"

Kids shouldn't have access to guns.

But thanks to the Second Amendment, it's reasonable to think the toy is a gun.

All y'all would be defending the cop just the same, if there was anything in his hand that could be mistaken for a gun.

Because the Second Amendment makes it easy for criminals to obtain guns.

Sorry if I don't want to give up my rights because of bad parenting.

Sorry if I don't want to give up my rights because of bad parenting.
#32 | POSTED BY KWRX25

What are you talking about?

That's exactly the tactic republicans are using to ban books and libraries and public education and websites and social media.

Parents are incapable of raising their kids. Republicans have said so.

Not wanting a book on teaching preteens how to blow each other is a far reach and false equivalence here.

#34 is right, kids should be blowing each other's heads off literally, not figuratively. It's what the framers would have wanted.

google 'full metal airsoft'/images if you don't already know these toys are indistinguishable from real guns, and are used by punks during robberies, even in countries without the 2A. Some of the replicas even have blow-back action and eject cases. Illegal in some places.

The youths, both 13, matched the descriptions of the robbery suspects

They probably used this replica doing the robbery. I'm inclined to think they were indeed the robbers, because matching the description being Burmese is a pretty narrow description. ...Unless there's a whole lot of Burmese robbers there.

'burmese kids smoking' images. LOL.

Today I learn about Burma!
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Luther and Johnny Htoo, then not even 10 years old, took command of a Karen militia hundreds strong that aimed to protect the ethnic group from incursions by the Myanmar Army. The boys were barely taller than their rifles. But their followers, descendants of Baptists converted by American missionaries,
LOL dambaptists

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