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Wednesday, September 18, 2024

Dr. Francis Collins has been at the forefront of the world's most advanced biomedical research. He led the Human Genome Project and was the longest-serving director of the National Institutes of Health. He is drawing on his career to focus on what he sees as the core pillars of wisdom during a time of deep polarization. Geoff Bennett sat down with Collins to discuss his book, "The Road to Wisdom."

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Well his haters will be enraged by his wisdom same as always.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2024-09-18 02:21 PM | Reply

Thanks for posting this on the Front Page, Rogers.... it's a worthwhile read of the interview, no matter one's viewpoint.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-18 02:28 PM | Reply

He is very provocative. I read The Language of God. The fine tuned universe theory is still very fascinating although it gets wished away by proponents of the multiuniverse, an even more fantastical proposition if you think about it. It seems the more I learn about the universe, the more amazing it is.

#3 | Posted by zarnon at 2024-09-19 06:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The fine tuned universe theory is still very fascinating although it gets wished away by proponents of the multiuniverse, an even more fantastical proposition if you think about it.

It seems the more I learn about the universe, the more amazing it is.

POSTED BY ZARNON

The more I learn about the universe the more I realize we do not know hardly anything about the universe.

Once we thought of that the earth WAS the universe. Then we thought that the solar system WAS the universe. Then we thought that the Milky Way WAS the universe. Now we think that the universe may only one in an infinite sea of universes. Before dark matter was discovered we thought that we saw all of the universe. Now we have realized that we can only detect 4% of it and the rest we have no idea what it is.

Time is NOT constant across space-time.

The universe is actually accelerating in its expansion. At some point in Time space itself will be expanding faster than the speed of light.

It's a very exciting time for physicists and cosmologists.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 01:34 PM | Reply

"The fine tuned universe theory is still very fascinating although it gets wished away by proponents of the multiuniverse"

Actually it's not wishful thinking. It's a valid theory. An alternative interpretation.

Basically:

Copenhagen interpretation
A quantum mechanics interpretation that states that when measured, the probability of finding a particle at a specific point is proportional to the square of the particle's wave function magnitude at that point.

So ...

Quantum systems exist in a superposition of all possible states until measurement, when the wave function collapses to a single outcome.

The question is..

Are wave functions collapsing with we observe them or they only appearing to collapse in our universe because it's not collapsing but all possible states are branching into other universes?

It's a valid question.

The core idea behind the MWI is that the wave function of a quantum system describes the entire universe, not just isolated parts. (See entanglement)

The MWI is an alternate interpretation of why wave functions appear to collapse when we observe them. If the wave function of a quantum system describes the entire universe, then measurement of that wave function causes the universe to branch into parallel worlds, each with a different outcome. And we only see the branch that is in our universe.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 01:56 PM | Reply

When it comes to things like understanding the universe we have few resources but I have faith we understand it enough to be moral and have hope we all go some place better.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2024-09-19 02:33 PM | Reply

I have faith we understand it enough to be moral and have hope we all go some place better.

#6 | POSTED BY TOR

I love thought experiments.

I do find that line of thinking fascinating.

Perhaps we go to an alternate Universe?

Or just someplace better inside this one? Another planet perhaps? But we already have the best planet in the known universe! (At least the 4-5% we actually know about).

Or do we just float amongst the stars and nebulas and head for the brightest light or a black hole? Is God like a star? Are we incorporeal and float around as just some kind of pure consciousness (perhaps dark energy?) or do we get new bodies or are we stuck with the old broken down ones we die in when we die of old age?

If a God created the universe then by definition He is from "outside" that universe and not subject to the laws of that universe. Which implies there is an "outside". Which also implies the multiverse exists.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 02:56 PM | Reply

I was a real fan of multiple universes at one time, but am a bit agnostic now. It's a wonderful concept, but there's not even proof enough for a theory.

There's pros...

www.space.com

and cons...

www.forbes.com

Interestingly, to me at least, heaven in the scriptures is not some place out in space.

It's more resembles a co-existing plane of existence on earth.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-19 03:27 PM | Reply

I was a real fan of multiple universes at one time, but am a bit agnostic now. It's a wonderful concept, but there's not even proof enough for a theory.

Now do heaven.

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-09-19 03:38 PM | Reply

The fine tuned universe theory is still very fascinating although it gets wished away by proponents of the multiuniverse

No wished away.

It's a position born of an individual's biases.

It assumes the universe is this way because of the life we've been exposed to while ignoring the beauty of evolution and biology and its ability to adapt to the conditions it finds in its environment.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2024-09-19 03:57 PM | Reply

- Now do heaven.

m'K...

It has to do with time, among other things, and the ancient Israelis' unique concepts of time.

ntwrightpage.com

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-19 04:39 PM | Reply

The same author in Time magazine:

time.com

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-19 04:55 PM | Reply

It's more resembles a co-existing plane of existence on earth.

#8 | POSTED BY CORKY

I'm with ya!

So.. an alternate universe. Right along side ours but only reachable via death of the body.

Cool theory. If only we could test it. (Without dying in the process.)

Of course the theory in MWI is that if you did die in this universe you would still be alive in many other universes. So basically. Life continues somewhere even after death. Just like in the Bible. But I do not recommend trying to test it!

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-19 05:18 PM | Reply

"Perhaps we go to an alternate Universe?"

An eternity of going to parallel universes some better some worse? Not Paradise but not bad LOL

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2024-09-19 07:43 PM | Reply

Anyone who reads the articles in #s 11 and 12 will know more about the theology of Christianity than do most Christians.

Especially the ones in this country.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-20 12:08 PM | Reply

But Dust and Ashes We Are

hebrewcollege.edu

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-20 06:26 PM | Reply

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