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Thursday, June 05, 2025

Officers were also urged to increase apprehensions and think up tactics to "push the envelope" one email said, with staff encouraged to come up with new ways of increasing arrests and suggesting them to superiors.

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ICE has arrested a record number of immigrants as Stephen Miller reportedly threatens officials' jobs if they fail.

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-- The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast.bsky.social) June 5, 2025 at 12:49 PM

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Trump promised the 'largest deportation' in U.S. history. Here's how he might start (November 2024)
www.npr.org

...What Trump said about deporting immigrants

While campaigning, President-elect Donald Trump promised "On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program of criminals in the history of America." He referenced 1954's "Operation -------," an effort ordered by President Dwight D. Eisenhower. Government estimates showed more than a million Mexican immigrants and some U.S. citizens were rounded up. The program got its official name from a racist term for Mexicans who swam or waded across the Rio Grande. ...




#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:13 AM | Reply


Irish and German Immigration
www.ushistory.org

... In the middle half of the nineteenth century, more than one-half of the population of Ireland emigrated to the United States. So did an equal number of Germans. Most of them came because of civil unrest, severe unemployment or almost inconceivable hardships at home. This wave of immigration affected almost every city and almost every person in America.

From 1820 to 1870, over seven and a half million immigrants came to the United States " more than the entire population of the country in 1810. Nearly all of them came from northern and western Europe " about a third from Ireland and almost a third from Germany.

Burgeoning companies were able to absorb all that wanted to work. Immigrants built canals and constructed railroads.

They became involved in almost every labor-intensive endeavor in the country. Much of the country was built on their backs. ...



#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:16 AM | Reply

@#2

Frederick Trump
en.wikipedia.org

... Frederick Trump (born Friedrich Trump; German: [fi:d tmp]; March 14, 1869 " May 30, 1918) was a German-American businessman. He was the patriarch of the Trump family and the paternal grandfather of the 45th and 47th U.S. president, Donald Trump.

Born and raised in Kallstadt, Germany, in what was then the Kingdom of Bavaria, Trump emigrated to the United States in 1885. In 1891, he began speculating in real estate in Seattle. During the Klondike Gold Rush, he moved to the Yukon and made his fortune by operating a restaurant and a brothel for miners in Whitehorse.[2][3]

In 1901, Trump returned to Kallstadt and married Elisabeth Christ. As he had purportedly emigrated to the United States in order to evade conscription, the Bavarian Government stripped him of his citizenship in 1905. Consequently, he returned to the United States with his family.

Trump worked as a barber and manager of a restaurant-hotel and was beginning to acquire real estate in Queens when he died in the 1918 flu pandemic. ...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:21 AM | Reply

Irish and German immigration
www.khanacademy.org

... Overview

- - - From the 1820s to the 1840s, Germans and Irish were the two largest groups of immigrants to the United States.

- - - The Germans and Irish were frequently subjected to anti-foreign prejudice and discrimination. ...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:26 AM | Reply

Nativism Against the Irish in America: A Historical Perspective (January 2024)
www.theirishpotatofamine.com

... Introduction

Nativism, the belief that native-born citizens are superior to immigrants, has manifested itself in various forms throughout American history. One significant episode of nativism unfolded in the 19th century, particularly against Irish immigrants. This essay delves into the roots, causes, and consequences of nativism against the Irish in America during this period. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:30 AM | Reply

ICE is going to create a culture of vigilantism if they keep going down this road.

#6 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-06-05 05:36 AM | Reply

Donald Trump is a bum who humps the legs of goons.
Tom Homan, who runs ICE, is a goon.
ICE behaves goonishly.
Quelle sooprise.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-05 06:10 AM | Reply

... In the middle half of the nineteenth century, more than one-half of the population of Ireland emigrated to the United States. So did an equal number of Germans. Most of them came because of civil unrest, severe unemployment or almost inconceivable hardships at home. This wave of immigration affected almost every city and almost every person in America.

From 1820 to 1870, over seven and a half million immigrants came to the United States " more than the entire population of the country in 1810. Nearly all of them came from northern and western Europe " about a third from Ireland and almost a third from Germany.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 01:16 AM

On my father's side, the first immigrants arrived in the US from Germany in 1850. They were tailors by trade and eventually opened two stores, one in Toledo and one in Cleveland, specializing in men's & boy's fine clothing. The company was sold to the Botany Brands in 1961. During the Franco-Prussian War, in the early 1870's, they were forced to change the family name as it was hurting their business due to all of the anti-German propaganda (German soldiers bayoneting babies and raping Nuns). So they Anglo-Saxonized it, changing it from Becker to Baker. However, when I was a kid, we used to go to my uncle Frank's farm (actually my great uncle) in Maumee, Ohio for family reunions every 10-years to celebrate Uncle Frank's birthday (he lived to be 98-year old) and everyone was still speaking German, when the family got together (we never learned German at home, so we were fish out of water). Frank was the last Baker to work at the B R Baker Company, retiring as Chief Operating Officer shortly before the sale to Botany. My grandfather, and two his brothers, worked for the railroad.

On my mother's side, her family came from Belgium, her maternal grandparents arriving first in the late 19th century, and then her father, a few years prior to WWI.

The first immigrant ancestor of my wife's, at least on her mother's side, was here almost before anyone else, arriving from Wales in 1654. Her father's side is a bit more complicated since she didn't even know her father's name until she was 17 years old (her mother never told her that her 'father' wasn't and claimed that she had lost her birth certificate). She's since used Ancestry.com to verify that at least his name was real and that she was his daughter, but she's never tried to contact any relatives on her father's side, but it did show that his family was mostly Polish, and had been in the country for at least two or three generations.

OCU

#8 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-06-05 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re #8

What a truly American story! I have enjoyed your comments.

Thanks for sharing that with us!

Before you are black bagged and disappeared forever into a country you have never been to.

She's since used Ancestry.com to verify that at least his name was real and that she was his daughter

Oops!

Another database (like 23andMe) that can and will be used against you. If you become "known" and end up on Trumpy's enemies list.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-05 12:25 PM | Reply

"Another database (like 23andMe) that can and will be used against you."

Regeneron bought that data for a quarter billion. Hoping it will help with drug discovery.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 01:02 PM | Reply

Re 10

True.

However, a recent data breach in 2023 exposed the accounts of approximately 7 million users due to a credential stuffing attack. While 23andMe's policies state that data will not be shared with third parties without consent and is only released if required by legal process, the 2023 breach highlighted potential vulnerabilities in their security measures.

If you used them before 2023 your data has probably already been "harvested".

Also. "only released if required by legal process" is not very reassuring these days. Depending on where you live.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-05 01:14 PM | Reply

Death In June - All Pigs Must Die

All pigs must die
This ain't August '69
All pigs must die
Seven on seven " Sieg Heil Sublime
Their trotters are in the mud
They're better off with the Son of God
They had no idea
Not even close, not even near
All pigs must die
This ain't August '69
All pigs must die
Seven on seven " Sieg Heil Sublime

All pigs must die
This is August '99
All pigs must die
Their stolen riches are really mine
Cover their faces in blood
They're better off with the Son of God
All pigs must die
This is August '99
All pigs must die
The law of the claw will make them mine
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Death in June
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Death in June
Fall Apart
Death in June

All pigs must die
This is August '99
All pigs must die
Their stolen riches are really mine
All pigs must die
This ain't August '69
All pigs must die
Seven on seven " Sieg Heil Sublime
All pigs must die
That was August '99
All pigs must die
Their stolen riches are truly mine

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-05 01:21 PM | Reply

Actually I just found out 23andMe is asking the judge to re-open the auction because they have a $400M offer from a different and undisclosed Fortune 500 company.

If the new bidder it's not a drug company it's probably Leidos or similar who will explore using the data for genomic targeted bioweapons.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 01:54 PM | Reply

What a truly American story! I have enjoyed your comments.

Thanks for sharing that with us!

She's since used Ancestry.com to verify that at least his name was real and that she was his daughter

Oops!

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-05 12:25 PM

Well, two of our sons have taken it a step further.

Our oldest son married a gal who's mother was Korean/Japanese and who's father was German-American. They have four daughters, the oldest of which is married to a guy from Central America who can trace HIS ancestry on his mother's side back to Eastern Europe, including a branch of Ashkenazi Jews, and they have two children, a girl and a boy.

Our middle son, he has a daughter who's mother is from Mexico.

Our youngest son had a daughter, but we lost her at eight-weeks from a rare but incurable genetic disorder (she would've been 14 years old this month). It destroyed his marriage and while he's remarried, they've agreed not to risk another throw of the genetic dice.

So you can see, our two oldest sons have thickened up our family's gene pool a bit.

OCU

#14 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-06-05 07:25 PM | Reply

Speaking of DNA and Ancestry.com, while my wife had a purpose in mind, finding out who her father really was, I thought I knew everything on my side of the ledger. Boy was I wrong.

Anyone getting their DNA done needs to be aware that you may learn more about your 'family' than you bargained for. About six month after we had our DNA run by Ancestry, and my wife had pretty much confirmed what she had been told about the missing side of her family, I get a note from a FIRST cousin that I had never heard of before. We communicated for a couple of weeks where he explained that, like my wife, he had been lied to about who his parents were and it wasn't until he was in his late 50's before he finally learned that he was adopted, but no one would tell him anything, not even his 'mother'. When Ancestry.com finally came around he decided to take matters into his own hand. While his 'father' had died years before his 'mother' was still alive but in a nursing home and so he took a sample from both her and himself and sent it in, which proved that they were not related (his 'mother' passed away before he could confront her with the test results).

That's' when his DNA crossed mine and we got these notices about being first cousins. I sent a note out to all my first cousins on my father's side (that's what the DNA showed, a fraternal match) and all but one claimed to have no knowledge of anything. However, the one cousin called me and said that I was to never speak of this again to anyone. When I mentioned this to her younger half-sister she suddenly realized that this might explain a few things. Now their mother and their respective fathers were already gone, so there was no one to ask (only one aunt, by marriage was still alive, and I wanted to avoid asking her about it as she was quite old). Anyway, the younger sister of the cousin who warned me to drop the subject, decided to do something on her own and had her DNA checked and sure enough, it confirmed that this mystery man was her half-brother. Well, looking at their respective ages and that of her older half-sister, my cousins, the one I had known all my life and the new one, figured out that the only explanation that made any sense was that he was born out of wedlock between my aunt's first and second marriage. I all fit because he was born in a hospital in Chicago (my aunt lived in Michigan) which was known for caring for unwed mothers. Also, my new cousin's mother' had been a nurse at that hospital. Once all the chess pieces were on the board, it became pretty obvious what had happened.

At this point I dropped out of the conversation and just let my cousin handle it as she was really interested in meeting him. Her new sibling was retired, living in Florida and she lived in Virginia, so she drove down there to meet him face to face and they became close. Unfortunately, he had some serious medical conditions and died before we all got a chance to meet. But my cousin said he looked like the rest of us and that he was very nice, just that he had been living a lie all his life and it had played on his mind once it became clear what had probably happened. Note that to this day, the older half-sister, who we're still close to, has never accepted what me and her sister learned, or at least she refuses to talk about it and I've never brought it up as I respect her too much and would not want to ruin our relationship.

But this does act as a tale that if one does have their DNA run, be prepared for what you might learn. It may not always conform with what you thought was the history of your family.

OCU

#15 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-06-05 07:52 PM | Reply

"Scorch the earth, whooohooo! Round up anybody that isn't white, whooohooooo! Screw general humanity, this is Merka, whooohooo! Sorry for those citizens who get rounded up in it all, just the price of being not white in Merka, whoohooo!"

#16 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-05 07:57 PM | Reply

ICE Barbie has hired pardoned J6 rioters to be ICE agents knowing they are cool with doing illegal acts that please -------.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-06-06 09:14 AM | Reply

"ICE Barbie has hired pardoned J6 rioters to be ICE agents"

Republicans support giving police powers to the goons who attacked the police on Jan 6.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 09:18 AM | Reply

It's kind of stupid for the group that decided to ignore all of the laws related to preventing illegals is the same group trying to demonize the other side for ignoring immigration laws.

If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.

#19 | Posted by humtake at 2025-06-06 11:38 AM | Reply

"But this does act as a tale that if one does have their DNA run, be prepared for what you might learn."

I completely agree with you. I found out I have a sister because of doing a DNA test on Ancestry. While it turned out to be a good thing and she is a lovely person, it could have gone completely bad. Luckily, I have a career where I have tools to do legal deep dives on people so I used every resource to ensure she is not a bad person (as much as I could). But, I still question about what if she had been a criminal or someone wanting to take advantage of the situation. I'm sure too many people fall for that.

#20 | Posted by humtake at 2025-06-06 11:40 AM | Reply

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