You liberal -------- buy into the Democrat 'universal' healthcare -------- based on lies. For instance, you -------- believe that the US has worse health outcomes than European nations with strong national healthcare systems like Germany.

The problem is, this conclusion is based on ---- assumptions because that is the conclusion liberal propagandists want to see.

How would an a actual analysis look?

Well, first we have to isolate things in the US which are culture or choice vs. healthcare outcomes. To do this, you need to eliminate some deaths from the analysis.

1.) Suicides - nothing to do with quality of healthcare
2.) Murders - nothing to do with the quality of healthcare
3.) Auto accident deaths - this is due to how the US is set up based on car commuting and nothing to do with the quality of the healthcare
4.) Adjust for the much higher % of obesity in the US vs. Europe
5.) As there are huge racial disparities in life expectancy that have nothing to do with quality of healthcare, you would need to just look at the white population outcome for the US vs. the white population outcomes for German.

And when we do this analysis? Well, US life expectancy - solely isolating the quality of healthcare - is over 82 years compared to Germany's 81.9.

So, basically the same or within the margin of error. Of course the liberals don't want to talk about this nonsense because it does not show our health system having worse outcomes - but, it is an actual valid analysis vs. the biased BS they throw out because liberals are too stupid to read beyond the headlines.

The last bit for your -------- - if I only look at life expectancy in the US for with the above constraints but only look at white families with income over $100,000, the life expectancy is 83 years - blowing Germany out of the water. So, the for profit health insurance absolutely delivered BETTER results for those that actually buy insurance.

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#13 | Posted by Dbt2"

German Top 5 Reasons:
1.) Mental Health Disorders: ~50-70% of suicide cases
2.) Relationship Problems and Social Isolation: ~20-35% of
3.) Physical Health Problems or Chronic Pain: ~15-25% of cases
4.) Financial or Job Problems:~10-20% of cases
5.) Substance Abuse: ~10-20% of cases

USA Top 5 Reasons:
1.) Mental Health Disorders (especially depression): ~50-70% of suicide cases
2.) Relationship Problems: ~25-40% of suicide cases
3.) Substance Abuse (including alcohol and drugs): ~20-30% of suicide cases
4.) Financial or Job Problems: ~15-25% of cases
5.) Physical Health Problems or Chronic Pain: ~10-20%

Well, here is the actual data - Mental health, which I assume you are going to blame on the healthcare industry is the same in the US and Germany as a % of suicides. Meanwhile, the US shows materially higher rates of suicide due to substance abuse (nothing to do with medical care) and LOWER rates due to Chronic Pain, which 100% could be attributed to insufficient health care - but, this goes in the wrong direction for liberal arguments which claim Americans are offing themselves due to not having access to healthcare - well, in Germany they do have access and are offing themselves at a higher % of suicides.

And before you start to argue that the US suicide rate is higher - well, if we look at suicide ATTEMPTS, the rate is equal or slightly higher in Germany. The US is just more successful at finishing the job due to guns, etc.

Again, ---- all to do with the quality of health care OTHER THAN Germany's higher rates of suicide due to insufficient treatment of chronic pain by their public healthcare system.