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Wednesday, July 09, 2025

President Trump's tax and spending bill sets in motion nearly $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid and other health policy changes that could loom over the midterm elections. - - - But the real effects likely won't be felt until well after the ballots are cast.

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"Because of the congressional instinct for political survival, the Medicaid cuts are backloaded beyond the 2026 midterms. Cynicism may have a silver lining. As more people realize what is coming, there is time to alter these policies before grave damage is done." www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/o ...

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-- Laurence H. Tribe (@tribelaw.bsky.social) Jul 8, 2025 at 9:28 AM

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Yeah, I can almost see it now, in summer 2026...

The Democrat candidates are warning constituents about the healthcare cuts.

Meanwhile, FoxNews may be showing (probably nearly 24/7) interviews with people, asking if they have seen any healthcare cuts.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-07 10:29 PM | Reply

Um, I think that won't be the case.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:42 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Um, I think that won't be the case. ...

Why not?

That's the situation I see being set up here.

How does your opinion differ?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-07 10:47 PM | Reply

I think a lot of bad ---- will happen in the next 6 months.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Texas is just the beginning.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#4 ... I think a lot of bad ---- will happen in the next 6 months....

Possibly.

But this thread is about healthcare.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-07 10:57 PM | Reply

People will die. Whether it's measles or ICE or FEMA tapping out.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 11:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... People will die. Whether it's measles or ICE or FEMA tapping out. ...

I do not disagree.

But this thread is about the health effects of Pres Trump's tax bill.

If you want to discuss those other aspect, please feel free to start up a new thread.

And, FWIW, I would likely be a participate of that thread.


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-08 12:24 AM | Reply

This is how Trump always does it.

Remember the tax cuts for the middle class? Temporary originally.

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-08 11:34 AM | Reply

Funny how they don't want to own the consequences of the "big beautiful bill."

It's almost as if they know they're lying ...

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-08 12:49 PM | Reply

Ok, people will start to lose their insurance THIS YEAR, because subsidies will be eliminated THIS YEAR and people won't be able to afford it.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-08 02:35 PM | Reply

Trump's spending bill cuts Medicaid: Here's what it's called in your state
www.axios.com

... President Trump's signature tax and spending legislation, the "big beautiful bill," is now law, and that means cuts to Medicaid spending.

The big picture: The law sets in motion almost $1 trillion in slashes to Medicaid and other health policy changes, likely forcing states to make corresponding reductions to their programs or to pick up a greater share of obligations. ...

- - - Because states have varying names for their Medicaid programs, experts say Americans may not realize the cuts and work rules apply to them. So there could be a surprise factor when the changes finally come.

Zoom in: Medicaid is administered by states using a combination of federal and state funds. Each program has its own name. ...

By the numbers: In fiscal year 2025, the federal government paid up to 77% of Medicaid service costs in the lowest-income states, with the national average at 60%.

Here's what every state calls its Medicaid program: ...


[see the article for the list, with links for each state]

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 02:24 PM | Reply

Immediate vs. Delayed Consequences of the Big Beautiful Bill's Impact on Health

Immediate Consequences (2025)

Several effects of the Big Beautiful Bill are already being felt in rural health care and among vulnerable populations:

- Rural Hospital and Clinic Closures:
Many rural hospitals and clinics are closing or reducing services now, especially those heavily reliant on Medicaid funding. These closures are a direct response to anticipated funding cuts and uncertainty, not just future policy changes[1][2].

- Service Reductions and Layoffs:
Hospitals and clinics are making immediate decisions to cut non-essential services, lay off staff, and delay capital improvements to brace for revenue losses[1][2].

- Increased Administrative Burden:
New paperwork and eligibility verification requirements for Medicaid are causing eligible people to lose coverage already, as states ramp up more frequent reviews and stricter documentation demands[3][1].

- Financial Instability:
Many facilities, especially in rural areas, are reporting immediate cash flow problems due to uncertainty about future Medicaid payments and the structure of new federal funds, leading to delays in vendor payments and hiring freezes[2][4].

- Coverage Losses Begin:
Some Medicaid enrollees are already losing coverage due to early implementation of eligibility redeterminations and administrative changes, even before the official start of new work requirements[3][1].

Consequences Delayed Until After the 2026 Elections

While many effects are immediate, several major provisions are designed to take effect after the mid-term elections in November 2026:

- **Medicaid Work Requirements:**
The new 80-hour-per-month work requirements for able-bodied adults on Medicaid do not begin until 2026. These are expected to significantly increase the number of people losing coverage due to the difficulty of meeting or documenting these requirements[1][5].

- Further Medicaid and ACA Cuts:
Some of the largest funding reductions and eligibility changes"especially those affecting provider taxes and ACA premium credits"are scheduled to phase in after the election, with the biggest impacts expected in 2027 and beyond[1][6][7].

- Tax and Budget Changes:
Many tax reforms and federal budget adjustments included in the bill are also set to start after the 2026 elections, delaying their full impact until the next presidential term[1].

- Many consequences are already happening, especially for rural health care, Medicaid recipients, and providers facing administrative changes and funding uncertainty.
- The most sweeping changes (work requirements, major funding cuts, tax reforms) are structured to take effect after the 2026 mid-term elections, meaning the full impact will be felt in the years following[1][7][5].
- Vulnerable populations - including rural residents, seniors, and low-income families"are experiencing both immediate disruptions and the looming threat of larger changes to come.

This staggered timeline is intentional, with some provisions delayed to minimize political fallout before the mid-term elections, even as communities begin to feel the early effects now[1][8].

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-07-09 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Citations:

[1] abcnews.go.com
[2] www.aha.org
[3] www.americanprogress.org
[4] www.narhc.org
[5] www.kff.org
[6] www.cbsnews.com
[7] nashp.org
[8] www.cnn.com
[9] www.washingtonpost.com
[10] www.medicarerights.org

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-07-09 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He did that so Republicans could still win in the midterms.

-ZedNatStarvis

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-07-09 04:13 PM | Reply

@#13, 14

Many thanks for that info.

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 06:07 PM | Reply

@#13 ... While many effects are immediate, several major provisions are designed to take effect after the mid-term elections in November 2026:

- **Medicaid Work Requirements:**
The new 80-hour-per-month work requirements for able-bodied adults on Medicaid do not begin until 2026. These are expected to significantly increase the number of people losing coverage due to the difficulty of meeting or documenting these requirements[1][5].

- Further Medicaid and ACA Cuts:
Some of the largest funding reductions and eligibility changes"especially those affecting provider taxes and ACA premium credits"are scheduled to phase in after the election, with the biggest impacts expected in 2027 and beyond[1][6][7]. ...

Yeah, it looks like the major provisions that affect individuals directly at not due to take effect until after the 2026 mid-terms.

So, I go back to my #1 comment.



#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-09 06:14 PM | Reply

@#15 ... He did that so Republicans could still win in the midterms. ...

.. and your point is?

That the assertion your current alias presents it correct?

Or is it not correct?

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-10 01:25 AM | Reply

No different than when my income was lowered by over 8k per year because I was forced to get health insurance because a Democrat made it a law. I hadn't been to a doctor for a few years prior to that so never had insurance and I still didn't go to the doctor for 3 years after I paid the healthcare tax that Obama passed. So spare me how much Trump's stupid decisions will impact people. If you don't like stupid decisions being made then stop supporting them on your side, too.

#19 | Posted by humtake at 2025-07-10 12:16 PM | Reply

"But the real effects likely won't be felt until well after the ballots are cast."

One thing you can always count on Republicans for. And then all their voters will just blame Democrats for it by the next election anyway.

#20 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-07-11 12:04 PM | Reply

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