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Wednesday, September 10, 2025

"That is the capitalist system." One of the most prominent pioneers of artificial intelligence has some grim predictions about what the technology he created is soon going to unleash onto humankind.

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"What's actually going to happen is rich people are going to use AI to replace workers," Hinton told the FT.

"It's going to create massive unemployment and a huge rise in profits. It will make a few people much richer and most people poorer."

"That's not AI's fault," he continued. "That is the capitalist system."

Although OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and his ilk have, as the FT notes, suggested introducing a universal basic income (UBI) to counteract AI-induced unemployment, Hinton claimed that such a stopgap "won't deal with human dignity" and the loss of purpose people may experience without work.

Though timelines for this jobs armageddon weren't provided, Hinton did put dates to another forthcoming AI revolution: when the technology could become superintelligent, able to out-think even the cleverest humans.

"A lot of scientists agree between five and 20 years," he said. "That's the best bet."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-09 11:07 PM | Reply

#1: "That's not AI's fault," [Geoffrey Hinton] continued. "That is the capitalist feudal system which has been disguised to appear like capitalism."

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-09 11:59 PM | Reply

"That's not AI's fault," he continued. "That is the capitalist system."

"the system" my ass.
It's the fault of the people who do the firing.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 12:00 AM | Reply

Yup. Last century I was in a European country and I observed four or five people working a small grocery/magazine shop. I asked my interlocutor why the undersized store needed so many workers.

"Because here, we would rather give everybody a job for a little less money rather than one who gets a lot."

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-10 12:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

PEDO DONNIE is unleashing massive unemployment.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 01:22 AM | Reply

Maybe trading our manufacturing and agriculture for desk jobs pushing numbers was a bad idea.

Too late now, people are complacent to pay $150 for a 55" HDTV. There is no way they will pay $1500 for the same thing.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-10 07:06 AM | Reply

I haven't been able to shake this feeling that we were at a crucial inflection point and we totally fcnked it up. Now massive amounts of money are permanently shifting upward to psychos and the poors will grow in number, the imprisoned will grow in number, with decades required to heal, otherwise collapse. Just waiting for some news of a general positive shift. In the meantime, it's scraping for morsels of hope

#7 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-10 06:56 PM | Reply

He is right, both about the inescapable dangers of AI/capitalism, and specifically about joblessness. We are not in charge of our laws, our country, our government, those with the big bucks run the show from corporate boardrooms.

#8 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-09-11 08:04 AM | Reply

There will be plenty of jobs for people fixing and correcting the things that AI breaks or gets wrong. It can do certain things well, but it get a lot of stuff horrifically wrong.

#9 | Posted by bus_driver at 2025-09-11 10:06 AM | Reply

I just had a conversation a few days ago with a colleague where I explained to him how a new AI-powered system we recently implemented works. Once he started to understand the purpose of the system he stopped me and said "this sounds like it could eliminate the need for half the people on my team in a few years." I was honest with him and told him it will probably eliminate 90% of his team in less than a year and the entire team in under two years.
It was heartbreaking because this is a person who absolutely loves his job and is extremely loyal to the company. He prides himself on the positive impact he is able to make on the care we deliver to our patients. He is now faced with the reality that this job that gives him so much purpose and supports his family will soon be gone and not just at our company but throughout the entire industry.
He started to lash out at me and I had to remind him that this system was not my creation or even my decision to implement. I also told him that I expect my role will be eliminated by 2030 at the latest. He asked me what would happen if he avoided using the system or fed it bad data. I told him he'd likely be quickly discovered and face disciplinary measures but I appreciate his subversiveness.

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-11 11:38 AM | Reply

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Godfather of AI Says His Creation Is About to Unleash Massive Unemployment

Luddites, you lot.

Every technological change led to disruption and change and obsolete whole industries, both in "manu-facturing" (literally L. "production by hand") and services - horse-and-buggy / pony express transportation to telephone switch operations etc.

Human workers have been replaced by robots and cobots, automation and computers for a lot less time than Industrial Revolution replaced manual labor, yet most of the people who want a job have had one.

For example, 3D-manufacturing, additive and reductive, as well as specialized robotics, have significantly improved the process and production times while reducing the need for human "brawn" in both manufacturing and service industries, as well as making it less expensive amortized over time.

I know, "this time is different" because this time "they are coming for white-collar jobs"... but the doomers (including those who have advanced the technology) told us that it was "different" all those times as well. And they were somewhat right - real progress is made by technology, not the politicians, especially ones who try to "stop or slow down the doomsday"... like Elon Musk recently suggested... for others, not his own "AI" development.

The point is that laws will stop no one else nowhere else from technological progress - which, as usual, brings with itself and can be used for good as well as bad.

New "industries" and services, adopting "AI" will come up, that you have no idea about yet, same as using technology before freed people for more productive endeavors.


#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-10 07:06 AM
Maybe trading our manufacturing and agriculture for desk jobs pushing numbers was a bad idea.
Too late now, people are complacent to pay $150 for a 55" HDTV. There is no way they will pay $1500 for the same thing.

That sounds awfully like "America First / MAGA" - "bring manufacturing and agriculture(??) home!" - this is exactly how Trump got so many of formerly reliable Democratic "identity politics" voters to abandon increasingly elitist (20%) "progressive" party.

The idea that "we" (the US government? the "rich"?) "offshored" manufacturing and the reason for our "problems" is that "we" (the people) no longer want to pay $1500 for items that cost less than $150 to produce somewhere else has been debunked many times over - it's called "pricing yourself out of the market" and "Money goes where it's welcome and stays and multiplies where it's well treated."

Damn those "globalists"! "Bring manufacturing home!" "America First"! "MAGA!"

Howard Lutnick's "army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones - that kind of thing is going to come to America" is not "coming to America" - it's a fantasy of the times long past by the "globalism deniers" and believers in Trump Org "Central Committee economic planning" - it plays on the voters' economic illiteracy and ignorance of history, and putting the "blame" on one or the other party / President / "the rich/elite" / "greed" for natural progress and adoption of technology.
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#11 | Posted by CutiePie at 2025-09-13 05:44 PM | Reply

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