World Losing Climate War; Fragile Cop30 Deal Keeps Up Fight

Monday, November 24, 2025

From The Guardian: The world is not winning the fight against the climate crisis but it is still in that fight, the UN climate chief has said in Belm, Brazil, after a bitterly contested Cop30 reached a deal.

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"COP30 ends with a whimper - The climate conference acknowledged that more climate action is needed, then failed to provide it" via @economist.com [paywalled]: www.economist.com/internationa ... #COP30

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-- Michael E. Mann (@michaelemann.bsky.social) Nov 22, 2025 at 7:09 PM

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... The world is not winning the fight against the climate crisis ...

Simple...

Because Big Oil profits seem to outweigh the effect of those profits upon humanity.

See, simple.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 09:10 PM | Reply

#1 Not to mention the fact that short sightedness is rewarded immediately.

After effects be damned.

#2 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-23 09:13 PM | Reply

It has some to do with Catastrophic predictions that don't materialize. You can only cry wolf so many times.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-24 06:35 PM | Reply

At least during the last administration Congress passed a bipartisan bill to build new nuclear powers plants and Biden signed it into effect.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-24 06:36 PM | Reply

#3 As usual, bell boi fails to understand difference between the scientific method and sensational headlines declaring science "wrong."

#5 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-24 06:40 PM | Reply

I wouldn't use "scientific method " to describe climatology. And I don't say that to denigrate climatology.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-24 07:21 PM | Reply

I wouldn't use "scientific method " to describe climatology.

We know. You use knee-jerk reactions and political bias.

#7 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Political bias has nothing to do with it.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-24 07:40 PM | Reply

Whatever, dude.

Can you even grasp the global heat flux?

Start with the basics, and I can help you actually understand what the fuck you are talking about.

No politics needed.

#9 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 10:02 PM | Reply

Anyway, we're on the RCP 8.5 track.

Adaptation and resilience is the priority, not mitigation.

#10 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 10:13 PM | Reply

#9 what's your problem?

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-11-24 10:44 PM | Reply

So, not going to start with the basics I guess.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2025-11-24 10:53 PM | Reply

#9 what's your problem?

Do you think I have a problem?

If so, that's your problem.

#13 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 10:59 PM | Reply

-global heat flux?

Is that a sister to the famous flux capacitor?

-the RCP 8.5 track.

Is that a cousin to the 8-track?

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-24 11:10 PM | Reply

Earth's heat balance.

El Nino, Pacific decadal oscillation, and other quantifiable atmospheric teleconnections.

Oceanic circulation and atmospheric heat transfer.

Hadley cells and my personal favorate, the westerlies.

The quantifiable concept of seasons.

A myriad of understanding of other climate related phenomena, advanced through the scientific method.

All of which has furthered our society.

#15 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 11:14 PM | Reply

Is that a cousin and an 8-track?

You read 8-track and immediately confused it with how Kansas people procreate.

#16 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-24 11:17 PM | Reply

Funny.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-24 11:41 PM | Reply