Wednesday, October 16, 2024

Wehner: This Election Is Different

Peter Wehner - As a young conservative who worked in the Reagan administration, I was inspired by President Ronald Reagan's portrayal of America - borrowed from the Puritan John Winthrop - as a shining "city upon a hill." I find this moment particularly painful and disorienting. But no election prior to the Trump era, regardless of the outcome, ever caused me to question the fundamental decency of America.

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The nominee for the Republican Party, Donald Trump, is a squalid figure, and the squalor is not subtle. His vileness, his lawlessness, and his malevolence are undisguised. At this point, it is reasonable to conclude that those qualities are a central part of Trump's appeal to many of the roughly 75 million people who will vote for him in three weeks. They revel in his vices; they are vivified by them. Folie millions.

Trump may lose the election, and by that loss America may escape the horrifying fate of another term. But we have to acknowledge this, too: The man whom the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called "fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country" is in a razor-thin contest against Kamala Harris, a woman who, whether you agree with her or not, is well within the normal boundaries of American politics. If he loses, he will not concede. Trump will instead attempt to tear the country apart. He can count on the near-total support of his party, and the majority of the white evangelical world. They will once again rally to his side, in the name of Jesus.

Trump has never been well, but he has never been this unwell. The prospect of his again possessing the enormous power of the presidency, this time with far fewer restraints, is frightening. If Donald Trump wins the election, those of us who grew up loving America won't stop loving her. But it will be a love tinged with profound disappointment and concern, almost to the point of disbelief. It is one thing, and quite a disturbing thing, for Trump's soul to represent the soul of his party. It is quite another, given all we know, for him to represent, as president, the soul of his country. It would be an act of self-desecration.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-16 07:55 AM

The Enemy From Within

www.youtube.com

3 min

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 09:35 PM

Yeah it is. We have a loser who keeps trying to make black (men) people indebted to her, vote for her, and her VP choice is a pedo.

They aint buying it.

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-16 09:46 PM

"The nominee for the Republican Party, Donald Trump, is a squalid figure, and the squalor is not subtle. His vileness, his lawlessness, and his malevolence are undisguised"

Gee, I wonder why Democrats keep trying to kill Trump. Where would they ever get the idea that Trump is an existential threat to the country and must be stopped by any means necessary?

#4 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-16 10:00 PM

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#5 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 10:02 PM

- Democrats keep trying to kill Trump.

He misspelled, 'Republicans'.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 10:09 PM

"#6 | Posted by Corky"

Yeah, you are right. Pretty much every Republican I know donated to ActBlue. Regardless of this attempt at deflection, how are they getting radicalized against Trump only?

#7 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-16 10:11 PM

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#8 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 10:13 PM

- every Republican I know

Is this the Wide Stance heel clicker=toe tapper bunch of Republicans at the public restrooms ?

I'm just glad you have friends!

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-16 10:18 PM

"Is this the Wide Stance heel clicker=toe tapper bunch of Republicans at the public restrooms ?
#9 | Posted by Corky"

No, these RINOs are all in the Democrat party now along with the bloodthirsty neocons like Dick Cheney. But, I do find it strange that you are trying to shame homosexuals when you actively promote them in your own party. I guess this is like how Dems love to use the n-word when referring to black GOP supporters.

#10 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-16 10:28 PM

"...the Democrat party..." -

#10 | Posted by deadman

There is no such thing.

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 10:31 PM

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#12 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-16 10:32 PM

Posted by: deadman

This alias has been here 6 days and acts like he owns the place. My guess is tomorrow will be his last day.

7 days is usually the limit for a one weak poster.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-16 10:39 PM

"This alias has been here 6 days and acts like he owns the place.
#13 | Posted by tonyroma"

I was wondering where you ran off to. You want to answer the question now that you ran away from before:

"Please tell me, prior to our exchange, did you know that the audio (911 call in Ohio) was available of this incident or was this truly new information to you?"

#14 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-16 10:49 PM

The call is as bogus as you are (the person on the call is LYING). Danforth spanked you butt all over that thread and you still can't sit down.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-16 10:54 PM

"The call is as bogus as you are (the person on the call is LYING). Danforth spanked you butt all over that thread and you still can't sit down.
#15 | Posted by tonyroma"

You still did not answer the question. Just answer the question being asked rather than trying to deflect to Danforth's spin as he was just as ignorant on the topic as you.

"Please tell me, prior to our exchange, did you know that the audio (911 call in Ohio) was available of this incident or was this truly new information to you?"

I am not asking you whether you think the person was lying (irrelevant to the question being asked).

#16 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-16 11:11 PM

Peter Wehner
@Peter_Wehner

My take: Bret Baier has rarely looked as bad (or tendentious) as he did in his interview with Kamala Harris. On the flip side, this was one of her best interviews. She dominated Bret. All in all it was quite a bad day for MAGA world's most important media outlet.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-17 12:24 AM

"#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday"

Yeah, that is why her staffers made Brett cut the interview short and Kamala sent away her staffer so she could be alone with her bottle of Stoli - because she looked so good.

Trump is up 17.2% in Poly market and their betting lines are spreading like Kamala's legs when asking Willy Brown for a promotion.

#18 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 12:46 AM

@#18 ... that is why her staffers made Brett cut the interview short ...

Got a link?

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 12:49 AM

"Got a link?
#19 | Posted by LampLighter"

I always do:

www.dailymail.co.uk

"The moment Kamala Harris staff desperately intervened to end interview with Fox News' Bret Baier: 'It's gotta stop!'"

#20 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 12:51 AM

@#17 ... My take: Bret Baier has rarely looked as bad (or tendentious) as he did in his interview with Kamala Harris. ...

imo, Mr Baier went all out to challenge VP Harris.

He knew exactly what he was doing. And he knew the ramifications that we all see here.

But he challenged her anyway.

The Country benefited from what he did.

Her responses to his interrogation showed she was not to be f**ked with.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 12:53 AM

Got a link?

Not my place to tell you what to do, but this one is too weak to waste the time, IMO.

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-17 12:54 AM

"Her responses to his interrogation showed she was not to be f**ked with.
#21 | Posted by LampLighter"

Her responses and lack of composure showed she is unfit to lead mentally and emotionally.

We will get the true feelings from her team shortly - if they still do a Joe Rogan interview, it means they think she did well. If she now refuses to do a Joe Rogan interview, her team knows she bombed bigtime.

#23 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 12:56 AM


@#20 .. I always do: ...

No, your alias doesn't.

But, that aside...

From the article your alias cites...

... I'm talking like four people waving their hands like "it's got to stop,"' Baier described to his panel about how the interview ended after it wrapped up.

'I had to dismount there at the end,' Baier shrugged.

'There are so many things and maybe she should do more of these,' he added. ...


So, it is Mr Baier giving his opinion of what occurred during the interview. And he seems to admit he blew it ("I had to dismount").

Effectively saying he had his derriere handed to him, just as VP Harris did to fmr Pres Trump during his debate with her?


That seems like a positive for VP Harris to me.

No?

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:02 AM

@#23 ... Her responses and lack of composure showed she is unfit to lead mentally and emotionally. ...

An, unsubstantiated, opinion.

What else yer got?

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:05 AM

"So, it is Mr Baier giving his opinion of what occurred during the interview. And he seems to admit he blew it ("I had to dismount").
#24 | Posted by LampLighter"

I think you lack understanding of basic English if that is your interpretation of what he said. To dismount just means to end. Like dismounting a horse or a gymnast dismounting to end their routine.

Kamala looked terrible. She still had no specifics, just tried to talk about Trump, and lost emotional control. She won't be doing more interviews with anyone other than a sycophant reading off a script from this point forward.

#26 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 01:08 AM

@#22 ... Not my place to tell you what to do, but this one is too weak to waste the time, IMO. ...

Yeah.

Back a few decades ago I was in a carpool with a good business friend.

He described to me something he saw one day.

His cat had cornered a mouse in a bathtub in their house.

The cat seemed to know that the mouse was ~cornered,~ i.e., there was no way out for it.

So the cat, went into the tub and just started to bat the mouse around with its paws.

Eventually, the mouse was, I'll say, toast.


So, with that in mind, sometimes one should joust with a random alias that appears to see what develops.

The results of that jousting are interesting.

For example...

hans, major kudos. And thank you for the information you provide.

deadman, could go either way at the moment. Disruptive, or informative? imo, too soon to tell.

YMMV.

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:16 AM

@#26 ... She still had no specifics, just tried to talk about Trump ...

So, she stayed focused upon the issue at hand?

As opposed to fmr Pres Trump's incoherent meandering ramblings during interviews?

Good to know.

Thanks for your view.

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:18 AM

"So, she stayed focused upon the issue at hand?
#28 | Posted by LampLighter"

Best part of the interview:

Heels-Up: You know what I mean
Brett: No, I don't

No one else knew either. That is what happens when you put a below room temp IQ into this type of position. Take the drinking problem and the poor emotional control on top of this and you have this shitshow as the result.

All that said, she would stay make a far superior VP to Walz, but that is not really a compliment to Harris.

#29 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 01:24 AM

Eventually, the mouse was, I'll say, toast.

Yep. Did did some time on a ranch outside of Calgary. Cats have a mean streak.

Forgive my interruption and enjoy your evening. :-)

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-17 01:43 AM

@#29 ... Heels-Up: You know what I mean
Brett: No, I don't

No one else knew either. That is what happens when you put a below room temp IQ into this type of position....

OK, aside from the fact that your alias seems to be projecting its opinion upon the world ("No one else knew either.") a typical MAGA fault...

I would like to point out that, the "below room temp IQ" that your alias cites, whooped fmr Pres Trump's derriere during the debate.

So, what does that say about fmr Pres Trump?


#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:51 AM

@#30 ... Forgive my interruption ...

No forgiveness is needed.

I always enjoy reading your comments. I learn stuff from them.

Would like to see more, than less, of them.

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-17 01:53 AM

"I would like to point out that, the "below room temp IQ" that your alias cites, whooped fmr Pres Trump's derriere during the debate.
#31 | Posted by LampLighter"

Sorry to ruin your night with actual facts again, but here you go.

washingtonstand.com

"Tuesday night's debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump has been touted as either a draw or a Harris victory by mainstream media pundits, but Independent and undecided voters saw the evening differently. Multiple polls are showing that a majority of undecided voters either decided on backing Trump or leaned towards that decision following the debate. Reuters conducted interviews with a focus group of 10 undecided voters, six of whom said that they would support Trump following the debate. Only three said they would back Harris, while a final voter was still undecided."

Yeah, yeah, I know. Reuters cannot be trusted.

#33 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-17 02:20 AM

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