Friday, October 25, 2024

Trump Ignored Disaster Aid Plea from Political Rival

In early September 2020, wildfires tore through eastern Washington state, obliterating tens of millions of dollars of property, displacing hundreds of rural residents and killing a 1-year-old boy. But then-President Donald Trump refused to act on Gov. Jay Inslee's request for $37 million in federal disaster aid because of a bitter personal dispute with the Democratic governor, an investigation by POLITICO's E&E News shows. Trump sat on Inslee's request for the final four months of his presidency, delaying recovery and leaving communities unsure about rebuilding because nobody knew if they would get federal help. Trump ignored Inslee's 73-page request even after the Federal Emergency Management Agency found during weeks of inspection that the wildfires easily met the federal damage threshold for disaster aid.

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As much lipstick as you want, he's still a pig.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-25 02:55 PM

And yet...they'll still vote for him overwhelmingly.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-25 03:09 PM

FEMA should be there for all of America, not just those areas that support the person who currently occupies the Oval Office.


Politics should not enter into FEMA and Federal aid, need should be the main (only?) criteria.



#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-25 06:24 PM

Are you really this dense?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter | Flag: How to not look like a complete moron while posting on the Retort.
Or are you being just willingly ignorant?

At least my HTML posts don't butcher the available posting space the way your posts do.

I'm constantly asked if I'm the one supposedly seeking attention.

Is that what you're doing?

If you don't know how to do basic HTML, please reach out.

If you don't know basic HTML and cannot figure this out, and do not want to become informed, well, then, congratulations

Inquiring minds want to know.

#4 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-25 06:27 PM

@#4 ... Inquiring minds want to know. ...

What is it that those inquiring minds want to know?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-25 06:40 PM

LAMP

What did you do to get HANS so ticked off?

Personally, I find you a delight.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 12:19 AM

On topic:

"because of a bitter personal dispute with the Democratic governor,"

Just consider this lack of humanity a preview of what this country can expect if we elect a sociopath for President.

We saw the same thing from Trump again on January 6 as he watched the suffering of the Capitol Police on January 6.

The man is completely devoid of empathy for anyone but himself.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 12:54 AM

@#6 ... What did you do to get HANS so ticked off? ...

So... I'm not the only one to notice.

I wish I knew.

But the response does not seem rational to me at this point.

I'll leave it at that.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 01:22 AM

" What did you do to get HANS so ticked off?

Personally, I find you a delight.

#6 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2024-10-26 12:19 AM | FLAG: "

A few days ago Hans was buttering up Lamplighter with all sorts of Newsworthy flags and praise and Lamplighter seemed to take it as phony and said as much in response. I have plenty of issues with Lamplighter's current alias but I have observed he doesn't like having his ass kissed, which is an attribute I respect. I think Hans took it personally and now lumps Lamplighter in with the rest of this site's denizens who Hans labels as MAGA. It's funny to me because Lamplighter's current alias is not even remotely MAGA.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-26 01:23 AM

Also, Hans got kinda pissed that Lamplighter was addressing him as "current alias.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-26 01:26 AM

@#7 ... The man is completely devoid of empathy for anyone but himself. ...

Yup.

At the risk of being superfluous ...

How to Identify a Malignant Narcissist (2023)
www.verywellmind.com

...
Signs Someone Is a Malignant Narcissist

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder (and the severity of these symptoms) vary. But the following are common characteristics of malignant narcissists:1

- - - Preoccupied with fantasies about beauty, brilliance, success, and power

- - - Unable to handle criticism

- - - Tendency to lash out if they feel slighted

- - - Likely to take advantage of others to get what they want

- - - Overly concerned about their appearance

- - - Expect to be treated as superior and craves this validation, also known as narcissistic supply

- - - Lack of empathy for others

- - - Inflated sense of self and inability to self-regulate

- - - Have no remorse for hurting others and no interest in apologizing unless it benefits them

- - - Have an attitude of deserving the best of everything

- - - Tendency to monopolize conversations and/or mistreat those who they perceive as inferior

- - - Hidden insecurity and a weak sense of self

- - - Tendency to blame others for their own bad behavior

...


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 01:28 AM

@#9 ... I have plenty of issues with Lamplighter's current alias ...

Yeah, I have noticed.

... I have observed he doesn't like having his ass kissed ...

As your current alias seems to kiss that derriere?

:)

But, thank-you for the apparent compliment.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 01:39 AM

You're welcome. :)

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-26 01:46 AM

@#13

                        :)

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 01:59 AM

@#7 ... Just consider this lack of humanity a preview of what this country can expect if we elect a sociopath for President. ...

Well, yeah.

Fmr Pres Trump's approach to Federal Aid to disaster victims seems to be along the lines of ...

Adulate me, or you are screwed.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-26 02:03 AM

#15

Yes, that . . . and he revels in the power he has to make people suffer.

#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 04:28 AM

This is so deserving of a rant! It isnt complicated unless your state is run by corrupt idiots like Enslee and Newsum who care more about stealing taxes from disasters than premptively correcting.

Why have west coast governors not prioritized and actually created ways to fight and spend to effectively fight wildfires? Why not spend developing immediate response "SWAT" fire fighting teams with an overwhelming capability to extinguish wild fires immediately? We need better technolgy and commitment to locate and ID fires. Combine volunteers, professionals with needed drone technology and local volunteers. We need to exstinguish them in the bud.

They lack real thinkers and doers in such leadership roles, but not shortage of politicians wrapped in destructive divisive identity politics. These governors and down office leaders need to be actual doers not political ideologues whose sole obsession is liberalism or party politics. They see their primary role as political schemers not doers. They always want public money made accessible to their cronies.

So many possible improvements needed but their leaders obsession is all leftwing politics and feeding crooks in government.

#17 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 08:22 AM

Stay tuned for more. Most every Democrat political class leader is so typical in their ineffective priorities. We have one such west coast liberal now running for President.

#18 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 08:28 AM

Apparently, the fascination with all things Hans continues even outside of the Nooner.

#19 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 09:16 AM

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2024-10-26 01:23 AM | Reply | Flag: MAGAt understanding

Please give us a reason why anyone should read - (much less respect) - whatever you say when you're unwilling to respond to this?

There's a simple solution to this.

Inquire within.

#20 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 09:24 AM

#6 | Posted by Twinpac

I would call you, friend, but apparently solidarity is only for those on the right, or for those giving aid and comfort to the MAGAts, like LampLighter.

Two hashtags might shed some light: #StrongerTogether and #Indivisible.

It is a common thread for the 8,000+ followers I have on Twitter, and it is a common thread I would like to see here on the Retort.

Alas.

#21 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 09:30 AM

Let's see, those on the left side of the aisle, showing solidarity with friends and helping to get their posts higher visibility by flagging here on the Retort is called "buttering up."

On Twitter, it is called Liking and Re-Tweeting.

But, apparently, flagging a post on the Retort is only okay if it is done by the usual suspects on the right, who consistently flag each other's posts.

Gotcha.

#22 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 10:00 AM

HANS

If you're trying to be a big fish in a little pond, you're going about it the wrong way. If you want to fight and be vindictive to get attention, then that's the wrong kind of attention.

#23 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 10:08 AM

#23 | Posted by Twinpac

Thanks for reading and responding, Twinpac.

Oh, I get plenty of attention without being vindictive. :-)

The "wrong kind of attention," as you call it, is exactly what I see those on the right side of the aisle doing.

As such, I refuse to fight with one hand tied behind my back.

#24 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 10:22 AM

I almost weighed in last week on this Lamplighter/Hans kerfluffle. It seems like a big misunderstanding to me. First of all, Lamp refers to the handle any/every poster is using right now as "your current alias". He doesn't mean by that that someone has had other user names necessarily, although if the shoe fits it might. From what I read Lamp referred to Hans' "current alias" and Hans took exception to that, but I don't think that Lamp meant it as the accusation Hans took it to be.

The second misunderstanding seems to be around what Hans perceives as Lamp's political affiliation. If I'm not mistaken, Lamp was a Republican, but Trump and the MAGA movement have so appalled and disappointed him that he is a never Trumper now. That doesn't mean, however, he is a Democrat. When I think of Lamp, I am reminded of a line in one of my favorite Leonard Cohen songs, Democracy:

And I'm neither left or right I'm just staying home tonight,
getting lost in that hopeless little screen.

www.youtube.com

I don't expect total, unquestioning political solidarity from Lamp because I won't get it, and that's okay. Friendship? I don't know if Lamo go that far, but I think we have a mutual respect for each other that has been built over time through multiple interactions on the board. I'll take it.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 10:42 AM

*Lamo go=Lamp would go

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 10:44 AM

"...we have a mutual respect for each other..."

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Which is something I believed was common among those of us who hadn't consumed the Kumquat Pol Pot Kool-aid.

My bad. :-(

#27 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 10:48 AM

What I think Hans and Lamp have in common is that they are both opinionated, strong-willed, quirky and neither of them suffer fools gladly. In addition, I think they both care deeply about this country and the politics that are currently causing it--and many of us--great distress.

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 10:51 AM

Which is something I believed was common among those of us who hadn't consumed the Kumquat Pol Pot Kool-aid.
My bad. :-(
#27 | Posted by Hans

I'm not sure what to say to that. Lamp and I don't always agree, and he has challenged me on issues in the past. He doesn't mind if someone stands up to his challenges, and he will listen to opposing points of view provided they are delivered with supporting facts and a modicum of sincerity. At least that is my assessment. YMMV.

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 10:57 AM

Just my 2 cents. Gotta run. Have a good day all.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-26 10:59 AM

I might refer to LL with current aliases like Cap't Obvious, or Sherlock. Gaslighter is pretty funny.

But not a Trumper. That's just ------ up.

#31 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-10-26 11:02 AM

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Ronald Reagan had an 11th Commandment: Never say anything negative about a fellow Republican.

Today, since the supporters cannot say anything positive about the Kumquat Pol Pot, they're united in their trashing of Kamala Harris.

Will Rogers once said, "I don't belong to any organized party, I'm a Democrat."

Why can't those of us on the left side of the aisle fight united against the existential threat represented by a potential re-election of Trump?

Or, are those of us on the left side of the aisle content with living in our intellectual silos, while leaving the solidarity to the Trumpanzees?

Thank you for replying, Gal_Tuesday.

#StrongerTogether #Indivisible

#32 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 11:07 AM

"But not a Trumper. That's just ------ up." -

#31 | Posted by horstngraben

Sadly, these days you're either with us or you're against us.

Not my choice, but the reality.

StrongerTogether #Indivisible

#33 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 11:09 AM

Sadly, these days you're either with us or you're against us.

Sounds like you meant, with me or against me.

What, have you gone nully?

#34 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-10-26 11:30 AM

Typical Democrats always hating and frivolously fighting average others apparently of their own ilk, instead of actually working to discuss and be productive.

#35 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 12:05 PM

Infighting is better than being a ------- lemming russian tool.

#36 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-10-26 12:13 PM

Sounds like you meant, with me or against me."

#34 | Posted by horstngraben

Nope.

You're either for democracy and decency, or you're for Trump.

Not my choice, but here we are.

#StrongerTogether #Indivisible

#37 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:23 PM

"... instead of actually working to discuss and be productive." -

#35 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 12:05 PM

Even a stopped clock is correct... twice a day.

That's your first one.

Are you going to go for two?

#38 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:25 PM

You're either for democracy and decency, or you're for Trump.

Not my choice, but here we are.

#StrongerTogether #Indivisible

Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:23 PM | Reply

You can be for Democracy and decency and STILL be against both Trump and Kamala. Oh and that Stronger Together meme is laughable. It's from Hillary after she lost to Trump. You know the one whose arrogant slogan was I'm with her.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-26 12:34 PM

#34 | Posted by horstngraben

Sadly, these words seem more apt now...

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
..than they did in 1964.

#40 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:38 PM

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr

Did you know that Jill Stein is not on the ballot in Kansas?

#41 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:51 PM

"You can be for Democracy and decency and STILL be against both Trump and Kamala." -

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr

Not this year, you poor, deluded soul.

Not this year:

"Elections are simple. Trump is an enormous threat to this country and the security of the world. In our two-party system there was only one candidate who could have beaten him. Those who didn't vote for that candidate helped Trump." - #131 | Posted by rcade at 2017-01-28 11:53 AM
Nope.

Not this year

#42 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 12:54 PM

So, MAGA continues its false claims that the Biden Administration has withheld disaster aid for victims of hurricanes in the SE. But in 2020, a politically motivated Trump genuinely did withhold aid for wildfire victims in the State of Washington. Leaving it up to Biden to approve that relief money months later.

It seems like anytime Trump or MAGA make an accusation, it's actually a confession.

#43 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-10-26 01:56 PM

"You can be for Democracy and decency and STILL be against both Trump and Kamala."

No you can't.

One candidate is a lawless convicted felon who has absolutely no decency and who also vows to undermine our democracy start mass deportations and turn us into a fascist dictatorship.

The other is a very decent person versed in the law and who vows to defend democracy and help immigrants and restore our confidence in ourselves from the middle class out.

The choice couldn't be clearer.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-26 02:13 PM

"No you can't."

I should have been more direct.

No you can't. Unless, of course, you are a blithering idiot like Humpy Trumpy.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-26 02:16 PM

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-26 02:13 PM | Reply | Flag: Thank you

#46 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:19 PM

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-26 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag: Again, Thank you

#47 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:20 PM

REPLY to 17: No you can't.

One candidate is a lawless convicted felon who has absolutely no decency and who also vows to undermine our democracy start mass deportations and turn us into a fascist dictatorship.

The other is a very decent person versed in the law and who vows to defend democracy and help immigrants and restore our confidence in ourselves from the middle class out.

The choice couldn't be clearer.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy

Sorry if this offends because I don't mean it like that or like "illegallyyouaredead" typically does. But how the hxll does one reply to obvious stupidity and to those who think media brainwashing and listening to Hollywood celebrity simpletons is what makes intellect? It used to be this discussion forum had intellect. People coming here need to make our country nicer and safer than the country they came from, and if they wont or can't most of us citizens want mass deportations and deserve it..

#48 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 02:30 PM

Is it possible to edit yet? If not make my #48 a reply to #44 not 17.

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 02:33 PM

I've also disagreed with LAMP on occasion, but it never turned into a cage match. We've both been very civil and respectful in our conversations.

Maybe HANS has that Alpha male thing.

#50 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-26 02:54 PM

#50 | Posted by Twinpac

No doubt, Twinpac. :-)

#51 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:56 PM

#50 | Twinpac

It is his lack of respect for readers of this blog to which I object.

And, based on some reply posts here, and messages directly to me, I'm not the only one who thinks that.

#52 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 02:59 PM

OK, but Trumper?

Boy you trippin.

And overreacting by spamming him. Save that for the real Trumpers.

Wanna know how you can tell a Trumper? Just ask 'em.

#53 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-10-26 03:06 PM

Lamplighter is as much a trumper as I am.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-26 03:13 PM

Perhaps, Alexandrite.

Perhaps.

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 03:24 PM

I get sick of hearing her/him (LL) absurd claim that "Robson" is a Russian Bot and absurdly since 2006. Like many say about Democrats they always project their own foolishness exactly what they claim about others.

#56 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-26 03:31 PM

I too think it's terribly unfair to decent, hardworking Russian Robots to claim that Robson is one of them, merely because of his Donald Q. Trump impression here.

He actually appears to be at least as demented as DQT, and you can barely tell Robson's posts from Trump's manic depressive Truth Social posts.

Russian Robot Lives Matter!

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-26 03:39 PM

"...claim that "Robson" is a Russian Bot and absurdly since 2006." -

#56 | Posted by Robson

The Russians started grooming Donald Trump in the 1980s.

Perhaps they didn't get around to the Retort until May 28, 2006.

Perhaps.

#58 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 03:39 PM

#56 | Posted by Robson | Flag: A proud Russian bot since 2006 (perhaps)

#59 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-26 04:25 PM

#56

---- off you stupid ----.

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-26 10:51 PM

Only Trump is dumb enough to telegraph his guilt by projection.

Grownups usually have that figured out by now.

#61 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-27 01:16 AM

Please consider that the single factor leading to costly natural disasters and slow response comes down to incurious lazy Democrat leadership as state governors and in White House who play politics instead of DOING. Compare west coast governors with DESANTIS in Florida.

Voting Republican is mostly about Quality of Life and your personal safety not politics.

#62 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-27 08:31 AM

Please consider that the single factor leading to costly natural disasters and slow response comes down to incurious lazy Republican leadership as state governors and in White House who play politics instead of DOING. Compare west coast governors with DESANTIS in Florida, who is a failure.

Voting Democratic is mostly about Quality of Life and your personal safety not politics.

#63 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 08:40 AM

Compare posters on here who actually offer solutions vs those who perpetually waste our time with vulgarities and made up inbred level Robo absurdities.

Come on folks start thinking and giving us actual suggestions for improvement instead of wasting our time with continous hate and nothingness.

#64 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-27 08:42 AM

73 WOW WOW. Hans must be pretending to be Biden and Kamala. Not a good look. See a good doctor as you still might be able to get that same plagiaristic dna malformation as Biden and Kamala repaired.

In the old days the honest msm kept them out of White House to save our reputation.

I hate to break it to you but this is highly illustrative of how some posters no longer have the mental accuity to contribute to a discussion forum. Go back to a 6th grade writing ethics class for a semester.

#65 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-27 09:01 AM

Make above a Reply to 63 not 73

#66 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-27 09:04 AM

"73 WOW WOW" -

#65 | Posted by Robson

MAGA math.

#67 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 09:04 AM

Go back to a 6th grade writing ethics class for a semester." -

#65 | Posted by Robson

Your elementary school had semesters?

Insightful.

#68 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 09:05 AM

"Compare posters on here who actually offer solutions vs those who perpetually waste our time with vulgarities and made up inbred level Robo absurdities." -

#64 | Posted by Posted by Robson | Flag: A proud Russian bot since 2006 (perhaps)

#69 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 09:07 AM

"We have one such west coast liberal now running for President."

I don't care which coast or even if they are from a coast but I still won't ever vote for a Fascist! But hey, that's just me! And in a discussion aboyt trump and Xi, just yesterday he actually said he might try to become President for life but you imbiciles still support him!

#70 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-27 09:13 AM

#65 | Posted by Robson | Flag: A proud Russian bot since 2006 (perhaps)

There's a little spittle on your chin, Robson.

You might want to wipe it off.

You're welcome.

#71 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 09:15 AM

#70 | Posted by Danni | Flag: Excellent post, as always

#72 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 09:17 AM

"There's a little spittle on your chin, Robson.

You might want to wipe it off."

That's Putin spunk fresh from dear leader

#73 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-10-27 10:55 AM

Just as Trump ignored COVID until it started killing in red states.

Even then, he didn't want national testing because reports showing the extent of the pandemic would be bad for him politically.

#74 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-27 02:14 PM

BTW, as we know, COVID infection and mortality rates were much higher in red states thanks to Trump's dangerous chatter and unwillingness to acknowledge the danger COVID posed to Americans of every stripe in every state. I mean, the selfish MAGAts who wouldn't even wear a mask to protect themselves and others were glaring examples of Trump's rhetoric put into action.

#75 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-27 02:20 PM

75

The measurably worse health care systems and the overall poor health of Americans in those states PRIOR to COVID were the largest factors in those results.

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-27 02:25 PM

"Even then, he didn't want national testing because reports showing the extent of the pandemic would be bad for him politically."

#74 | Posted by AmericanUnity

The Kumquat actually said: If We Stop Testing, We'd Have Fewer Cases"

If we stopped testing for breast cancer there would be fewer mastectomies.

(See how that works?)

And, yet, the MAGAts buy it, hook-line-and-stinker.

#77 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-27 02:32 PM

AU @ #75

Not to mention how many times he tried to shoot Dr. Fauci down and actually tried to get Dr. Fauci fired for telling the truth about the deadly severity of the pandemic.

Trump's imbecilic response to a deadly disease that ended up killing over a million people.

Therefore, in my opinion, if Trump is suffering from cognitive decay now, he didn't have much to start with nor was he fit for office when he was inaugurated in 2017.

#78 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-28 05:04 AM

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