Monday, November 04, 2024

Trump Ends His Campaign on a Dark, Angry, Rambling Note

Yesterday, Kamala Harris continued her uplifting message by going to a Black church in Detroit and channeling the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by saying the nation was "ready to bend the arc of history toward justice." Meanwhile, Donald Trump held a rally in Lititz, PA where he threw out his prepared speech and adlibbed it, attacking the polls as fake and the Democrats as demonic. He also hinted that he wouldn't mind reporters being shot, although his campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, later tried to walk that back to undo the damage. It was Trump at his darkest and angriest. The contrast with Harris couldn't have been greater if he tried (and maybe he was trying).

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The speech was full of lies, but that's not news, so we won't even bother listing them. He did say that he shouldn't have left the White House on Jan. 20, 2021, despite Congress having finally certified the electoral vote late on Jan. 6, 2021. This kind of language is something new, even for Trump, basically, that elections don't matter anymore and the peaceful transfer of power is for weaklings. According to the Constitution, once Congress has certified the electoral vote, the show is over, even if there was fraud"and over 60 court cases showed that there wasn't any to speak of.

It is hard to know if Trump is going so dark intentionally or he is just losing it due to all the stress of the campaign and likelihood he will go to prison if he loses, given all the criminal cases against him. Does he think that going so dark at the end is going to get him more votes? His base is going to turn out, no matter what. What we are thinking is how is this ending going to affect the Nikki Haley voters who are planning to vote in person tomorrow? Surely some of them are going to say "this is about six bridges too far."

When former Alabama governor George Wallace ran for president in 1968, he famously said: "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democratic and Republican parties." Even accounting for inflation since 1968, we think that if Wallace had observed how the two campaigns are ending this year, he might have raised that to $100. (V)

#1 | Posted by Hans at 2024-11-04 02:41 PM

Trump is terrible.

But if he wins, its because idiot Harris can't message.

Pollsters, including internal Dem pollsters, continue to find inflation, price gouging, house prices, protecting Social Security, expanding Medicare as the biggest issues. Small business tax breaks are the lowest priorities.

So Harris throws out random ideas rather than a coherent message of "I'm for workers".

Yes yes, "its on her website" and "she mentions it." Who cares?

It's the vibe. It's the meta-narrative. It's the story that low information voters perceive. And guess what many of those low information voters perceive? Trump better on economy, better for seniors, better for jobs, better for crime.

Trump has an enemy he can beat on all day long: the current White House. Harris doesn't because Trump isn't in office. It should have been a party message of taking on corporate America and Wall Street for the average worker. Sadly that message never became a focal point.

#2 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-04 04:47 PM

- But if he wins, its because idiot Harris can't message.

Here. I think that this bud's for you....

drudge.com

- It should have been a party message of taking on corporate America and Wall Street for the average worker.

That's been in every speech, every rally, every commercial, repeated by every pundit.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-04 05:39 PM

It should have been a party message of taking on corporate America and Wall Street for the average worker.

No, the most salient message was for men to stay the hell out of women's lives when it regards their personal health and reproductive decisions just like no law compels men to do or not do anything regarding the same through force of law.

The numbers of GOP women voting for Harris is going to boggle the mind this time tomorrow when the first exit polls start trickling out.

If not, I'll be here to eat crow but the only bird I'm looking forward to is the one America is going to fly in Trump's face when he's finally humiliated beyond measure.

And JD Vance just called Kamala Harris "trash" in his stump speech just minutes ago. They simply don't get it, do they?

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-11-04 05:45 PM

If the Democratic party wasn't so beholden to corporate America they would do a whole lot better than they are. Sadly the moneyed elite has poisoned the Democratic party.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-04 05:47 PM

Sadly the moneyed elite has poisoned the Democratic BOTH parties.

And Citizens United is to blame, which Democrats fought bitterly against and proposed numerous fixes to McCain-Feingold, which were rejected by Republicans.

Money is the root of electoral success, period. And you can't get money from people who don't have any. So if you want to win - even if you abhor the system - you do what you must, because change can only happen from within the political system. Change isn't going to happen by those pissing into the tent from the outside offering nothing in the fight against oligarchic kleptocracy.

#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-11-04 05:57 PM

#3 | Posted by Corky

Here. I think that this bud's for you....
drudge.com

Your message about her winning elections is literally all about San Francisco and California elections. This isn't those favorable elections.

But the main message is the problem for low information voters.

The news media is all about stupid things Trump says. The ads are all abortion or Harris awesome unity stuff. I've yet to see a commercial about taxes, labor, healthcare, or inflation, and only one about Social Security. Definitely nothing on Trump's Epstein issue, his rape case, his felonies, his fraud either.

That's been in every speech, every rally, every commercial, repeated by every pundit.

Do you honestly think the average voter is watching her campaign events or the pundits? No, seriously, do you think the average voter is going to her events or watching them on Youtube or something?

You can say whatever you want about what she stands for and believes. She's a fine candidate there.

But WHAT MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT?

We don't need her preaching to the choir. We need the message to make it outside the church doors. And except for abortion, a cogent message hasn't done that!

Trump on the other hand has. It's ALL anti-immigration (because immigrants bad apparently) and tariffs to protect workers (which it won't) and low taxes (even though it's less for workers than Harris' plan). That message is out and about for 10 years now, walking the streets, shaking hands, and is in people's heads.

Trump's ideas are TERRIBLE for the country if you understand them. But what do they represent? Trump wanting to protect America from crime, protect American jobs, and make sure workers take home more pay. The idea BEHIND those policies resonate even if the policies will fail completely. And low information voters don't understand those policies will do the opposite of what they want.

Low information voters are still the norm, Corky, and for fuck's sake, you know that. And she hasn't reached them very well and I pray to God that it doesn't cost her the election.

If I'm wrong, why the hell is the election so close?

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-04 06:06 PM

- We don't need her preaching to the choir.

She's dragging around F-ing Liz Cheney for F's sakes!

And the rwinger who coined the term, 'alt right' a true and famous neo-Nazi is supporting her online.

And she's the only actual Christian in the Race.

/
And the election may be so close because Trump looks so much like:

drudge.com

Which, in the end, could turn out more than oK eventually.

Just sayin'.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-04 06:25 PM

#5

This is true, Laura.

But Corporations paid for the laws to make it so a politician can't run without Corporate and billionaire money... and only a vast minority of Dems would vote against a Public Campaign Financing of what are supposed to be the People's reps, not the Oligarchs minions.

Financed and supported by the people who already pay for the air time and the media who get the money.

All the GOP would prolly vote against that.

(I miss Dethspud... anyone heard from him, her, them?)

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-04 06:31 PM

"and only a vast minority of Dems would vote against a Public Campaign Financing"

LOL

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-04 07:30 PM

That's not a factual argument, Bev.

Because you don't have one. Citizens United and the associated Corporate Personhood laws were fought by Dems before they became SOP for money and dark money in politics thanks to the GOP.

Dem Bill for public financing of elections:

pfluger.house.gov

Find me the GOP version of public financing of elections.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-04 07:54 PM

I wasn't making an argument. Neither were you.

I was laughing at you.

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-04 08:18 PM

I was laughing at "vast minority"

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-04 08:22 PM

im looking forward to trump losing. he can start a new grift and call it OnlyKlans.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-04 08:24 PM

I was laughing at "vast minority"

Not a term I have heard before, but viable.

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-04 08:25 PM

It has a history.... I've seen it used and used it before:

www.grammarphobia.com

also...

open.spotify.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-04 08:46 PM

@#12 ... I was laughing at you. ...

Why?

What, exactly are you laughing at?



#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-04 09:08 PM

Some of Trump's own campaign people hate him:

Tim Alberta
@TimAlberta
Re: my comments on CNN and MSNBC this evening... yes, there are Trump staffers who no longer much care whether he wins or loses. Not exactly breaking news. Hard to overstate how terrible morale is inside of this campaign"and how much anger/resentment is felt toward the candidate.

x.com

Alberta is the author of:

Inside the Ruthless, Restless Final Days of Trump's Campaign
"What's discipline got to do with winning?"
www.theatlantic.com

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-04 10:25 PM

"yes, there are Trump staffers who no longer much care whether he wins or loses. Not exactly breaking news. Hard to overstate how terrible morale is inside of this campaign"and how much anger/resentment is felt toward the candidate."

This most likely explains why we didn't see Ivanka and Jared on the campaign trail and only saw Melania a few brief times.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-04 10:38 PM

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