Friday, December 06, 2024

Sanders: Musk a 'smart guy'; RFK Jr. 'right' about 'unhealthy society'

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) called tech billionaire Elon Musk a "smart guy" and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "right" about America's "unhealthy society," as they prepare to take leadership positions in President-elect Trump's next administration.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders, D-Va., backed Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s comments on the food industry, in an interview on Thursday, but stopped short of committing to approve his nomination as Health and Human Services Secretary, citing concern about his views on other key health issues.

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-- Forbes (@forbes.com) December 6, 2024 at 8:51 AM

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Mr Musk is a very smart guy, imo, but I have a concern with how he uses that smartness.

RFK JR is also right about a few things, imo, but how will he put into effect the things he may be wrong about?

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 01:37 PM

Bernie's 83, FFS.

Retire already, you demented ----.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-06 01:41 PM

No, Elmo is NOT a smart guy. He's an idiot who was born rich (from Daddy's apartheid emeralds) and got very, very lucky. And, you know, a Nazi.

#3 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-12-06 08:04 PM

Smart as in shrewd.

Sure. I can see that.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-06 08:10 PM

@#3 ... No, Elmo is NOT a smart guy. He's an idiot who was born rich (from Daddy's apartheid emeralds) and got very, very lucky. ...

OK, based upon your comment, I looked around, and I may have to re-evaluate my opinion.

For example, I found out that Mr Musk did not start Tesla.

Wow.

So, all this hype about Tesla is not to Mr Musk's credit.


Thanks for the #3 comment.


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 08:14 PM

Smart as in shrewd.

Sure. I can see that.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack

And utterly shameless in multiple ways.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-06 09:17 PM

And yes, I think it's high time Bernie shuffled off to the retirement home.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-06 09:18 PM

@#6 ... And utterly shameless in multiple ways. ...

Well, yeah.

Has there ever been any doubt that Mr Musk is spending his political influence money for his own benefit, and not for the benefit of Americans?

I mean, really.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 09:29 PM

Television The Drug Of The Nation - The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy (1982)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
One nation
Under God
Has turned into
One nation under the influence
Of one drug

[Hook:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

[Verse I]
T.V. it
Satellite links
Our United States of Unconsciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
The methadone metronome pumping out
150 channels 24 hours a day
You can flip through all of them
And still there's nothing worth watching

T.V. is the reason why less than 10 per cent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
Means Kansas

Socialism means un-American

And Apartheid is a new headache remedy
Absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us

It shapes our mind the most
Maybe the mother of our Nation
Should remind us
That we're sitting too close to...
...


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 10:08 PM

@#9

OK, that tune (listen to the whole tune or read the whole lyrics) from four decades ago seems to be quite spot on in the current environment.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 10:12 PM

Has there ever been any doubt that Mr Musk is spending his political influence money for his own benefit, and not for the benefit of Americans?

I mean, really.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter

Before that. He was utterly shameless is selling other people's big ideas as if he could do them when in reality he was nothing but an opportunist who glommed onto other people's good ideas and covered with slick marketing.

All while shamelessly taking billions in tax payer dollars to stay afloat.

He's a self-serving leech.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-06 11:38 PM

@#11 ... when in reality he was nothing but an opportunist who glommed onto other people's good ideas and covered with slick marketing. ...

I do not disagree.


... He's a self-serving leech. ...

Well, yeah.

That's not obvious at this point?

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 11:48 PM

@#11

OK, looking at this from a different angle...

The megadonors who fueled Trump and the Republican Party and what they may want in the next 4 years (November 2024)
www.cbsnews.com

... More than $20 billion flooded into the 2024 presidential campaign, shattering the record for political spending in a single election. In an accelerating trend in American politics, Donald Trump, Kamala Harris and their allies raised colossal sums of money from billionaires.

A majority of these megadonors were Republicans, according to Open Secrets, the nonpartisan watchdog organization that tracks the influence of money on politics. And with Trump's decisive victory, they hit the jackpot.

So, who are these high rollers and what do they want in return for their generosity? ...



#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 11:55 PM

Related...

Big cheques, big roles: Major Trump donors bag key federal positions
www.business-standard.com

... Trump's picks for his cabinet -- on track to be one of the wealthiest administrations in modern presidential history -- demonstrate the role that campaign donations can play in accessing the president-elect's political orbit.

Trump, who rose to power in 2016 fueled by grassroots contributors giving in small increments, relied on billionaires for his third White House bid, showing a shift in how Republican mega-donors have embraced the president-elect as he has transitioned from party outsider to the GOP standard-bearer. ...


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-06 11:58 PM

#13

Thanks Citizens United

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-12-07 10:11 AM

# 9, I am the Slime from your video, Frank Zappa

www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2024-12-07 11:10 AM

...For example, I found out that Mr Musk did not start Tesla.

Wow.

So, all this hype about Tesla is not to Mr Musk's credit.
...

#5 | Posted by LampLighter

I spent a large part of my career in Silicon Valley, and I've pretty much had nothing but disdain for fElon Musk since his days at PayPal, a company he co-founded through a merger of his X.com and a company called Confinity. The board of directors, led by Peter Thiel, kicked him out because he's an -----, but you'll hear something something business genius.

I lived a few blocks away from the original Tesla showroom in Menlo Park (also not far from the original Facebook building in Palo Alto). The entrepreneurs/brains behind Tesla were Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. fElon Musk used his PayPal money to swoop in and take credit for "inventing" Tesla.

Around the same time, he was involved in a startup called SolarCity, founded by his cousins. He eventually shuffled his stock ownership around, trying to merge part of the technology to create batteries and solar panels to run the expensive electric cars he was taking credit for inventing...his ideas were likely sound on that issue, but he doesn't understand regulations, laws and the idea of "public utilities" - dude wants to run roughshod over everyone because he is the most smartest JeniUs in the world.

The one company he totally built was The Boring Company - that brilliant idea essentially killed HSR between LA and Las Vegas. It is also a fraud, but don't take my word for it.

The brain behind SpaceX was Thomas John Mueller, employee #1 and the reason that company was able to survive. Musk's ties to Moscow factor into the success of SpaceX, going back (at least) to 2001. Musk basically bought a bunch of different companies and spun off some successes like Starlink, and on the verge of bankruptcy, Falcon1 launched, saving the company. He is more like Steve Jobs in this regard (Apple was nothing without Wozniak).

Musk didn't invent anything. He's the classic Silicon Valley tech-bro, born on third base and claims he hit a triple. He does a lot of ketamine, is clearly on the spectrum and has a dozen kids from multiple women. His trans daughter offers the best insight into his character, and it's not good.

If you want to know what is going to happen in 2025, look up Peter Thiel. Musk is tied to Putin, Peter Thiel and now FDT. JD Vance is Peter Thiel's b-tch-boy, too.

#17 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-12-07 01:11 PM

Nasir Afzal
@NasirAfzal

Musk didn't invent Tesla, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Space X, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Starlink, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent "X", he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Trump, he bought him.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-07 02:16 PM

Nasir Afzal
@NasirAfzal

Musk didn't invent Tesla, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Space X, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Starlink, he bought it.

Musk didn't invent "X", he bought it.

Musk didn't invent Trump, he bought him.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-07 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

You see a pattern? Musk seems like a smart guy to me... Only an idiot would think otherwise. What did you buy, Clownshack? Hopefully a condom.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-07 08:47 PM

Clownshack bought a goat... He saw his dad's investment strategy in the purchase...

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-07 09:49 PM

maybe you can lend his goat some ivermectin if it gets parasites.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-07 10:02 PM

Bernie is right. Elon is a smart man, but then so was Ted Bundy.

Junior is also right about an unhealthy society, but he's not going to be able to do anything about it.

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-07 10:10 PM


Bernie is right. Elon is a smart man, but then so was Ted Bundy.

Junior is also right about an unhealthy society, but he's not going to be able to do anything about it.

#22 | POSTED BY REDIAL

These are just weak responses, Musk will be remembered for 1000 years. I dont even know who Ted Bundy is.

idk about Junior, but at least he cares and is wanting to do something. US government is so lazy if doesn't even got their offices, and if they do, they have an ----.
tennesseestar.com

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-12-07 10:21 PM

Just weak ass responses

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-07 10:25 PM

So glad some of you are acknowledging that smart and good are not the same thing. I once with an comment that Hitler was charismatic. You folks went ballistic calling me a Nazi, bigot, hateful, etc. Im Jewish, and I know there is no question Hitler was charismatic. He would never have accomplished the horrific things he did if not for that charisma.

#25 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-08 07:08 PM

Also, someone mentioned Bundy. Most photos of him show him wild-eyed. A particular movie was widely criticized for choosing an attractive actor to portray him, which made him look attractive. Instead of monstrous, As if it glamorized his persona. I personally knew a girl who was taken by Ted Bundy. He was good looking and chat,int, She was disarmed by his appearance, as many of his victims were.it is important that we learn that the world is not cleanly divided into good guys and bad guys. All of us carry a little of both. The most dangerous among us are right there in front of us blending in.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-08 07:22 PM

Typo charming

#27 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-08 07:23 PM

@#25 ... So glad some of you are acknowledging that smart and good are not the same thing. I once with an comment that Hitler was charismatic. ...

He was.

As is Pres-elect Trump.

But charisma does not a good President make.

Charisma appeals mainly to low-information voters.


#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-08 07:28 PM

Charisma is essential for a politician.

#29 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-08 07:57 PM

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