NYT reporter regrets Kavanaugh hit.

Tuesday, January 07, 2025

The message was surprising. David Enrich, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, was responding to a question I had sent him about his newspaper's 2018 coverage of the Brett Kavanaugh nomination. The Times had disgraced itself with its abysmal "reporting" on Kavanaugh. Enrich responded in a way that surprised me: "I've spent a lot of time thinking about my role in the Kavanaugh coverage, and I would be happy to talk to you about it at some point. For now, I will just say that I have learned some lessons and would probably do certain things differently next time." Wait ... what? Journalists never admit when they're wrong. About anything. Ever. Yet the substance and tone of his message suggested that of a contrite person who might believe he made mistakes. In my experience, this was an extraordinary statement coming from a reporter at the country's leading newspaper

Posted by BellRinger at 11:21 AM | 104 COMMENTS | permalink

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"Do things differently next time"

Not report the truth because it will be covered up by Republicans and death threats will be sent.

Jeff is elated.

#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-07 11:33 AM

#1. Give me a break. Everything about that was BS. You know it but are too dishonest to admit it.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:43 AM

. Give me a break. Everything about that was BS. You know it but are too dishonest to admit it.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:43 AM | Reply

GFY Jeff. Ford told the truth and you're trying to cover it up. Oh and nice article by Kavanaugh's friend. No bias there. No Siree. ROLLS EYES.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-07 11:58 AM

Ford lied her ass off.

Even her best friend when they were teens said as much even though she was pressured/threatened by Ford's legal team while she was in the hospital.

Ford should be indicted for perjury.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 12:06 PM

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Its full current name is Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture. It was founded in 1977 by the Rockford Institute. Today, the journal is published by the successor organization Charlemagne Institute. Since 2021, Paul Gottfried is the editor-in-chief.[5]

Chronicles has had close ties to the neo-Confederate movement.[6][7][8]

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) said in 2017 that Chronicles "caters to the more intellectual wing of the white nationalist movement".[8

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"Consider the source."

"AI Overview

"Consider the source" means to carefully evaluate the credibility and potential bias of the person or entity providing information before accepting it as truth, essentially suggesting that the source's background and motivations should be taken into account when assessing the information they present."

Funny how often Jeffy's sources are questionable at best... much like this one.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 12:34 PM

Journalists never admit when they're wrong.

Doesn't read like he's admitting to any wrongdoing.

I will just say that I have learned some lessons and would probably do certain things differently next time.

I'm sure being subject of MAGA propaganda and conspiracies leading to harassment and intimidation taught him a lot.

The truth is no longer objective.

If a rapist says he's not a rapist, and enough people are willing to believe them. That's all that matters.

Congratulations BullBringer, you MAGAts have ushered in an era of corruption and incompetence.

As republicans are famous for saying, "Rape babies are gifts from God!" So get out there and rape!

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-07 03:16 PM

The source is Mark Judge who lived through the entire thing.

The only thing Corky is capable of is Googling hit pieces to attack the source. That's his entIre function in life.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 03:17 PM

Mark Judge is a biased source who testified in defense of his old friend Kavanaugh, even though he didn't want to... and you aren't nearly as smart as you seem to think you are:

"Mark Judge statements

Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge also has made very weak denials. He also has a history of being a confessed alcoholic from a young age. He also has stated he does not want to testify on Kavanaugh's behalf.

Here are some statements Judge has made:"

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#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 03:36 PM

Interesting read. Some of you could do that if wanted to.....but don't bother if you're incapable.

A NYT writer expressing regret? Hard to believe, I know.

Yes, the author has a real beef with Enrich and perhaps it's deserved.

Regardless, the obligation to get it right should be taken seriously if you're gonna drag up stuff from 30+ years previously in high school.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 03:39 PM

GFY Jeff. Ford told the truth and you're trying to cover it up. Oh and nice article by Kavanaugh's friend. No bias there. No Siree. ROLLS EYES.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr

Jeff has told us time and again what he thinks men should be able to get away with.

Women are just objects to him. (Children too)

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-07 03:40 PM

Who the ---- is Zachary Elwood?

Consider the source.......

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 03:41 PM

I believe Kavanaugh did some things he shouldn't have merely based on his snotty combative behavior and obvious lies.
The guy had a drinking problem, if he still does I don't know, but it was very clear he got loaded and did bad stuff. He is not fit for the highest court in the land.

#12 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 03:46 PM

"I believe...."

I believe it shouldn't boil down to that.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 03:53 PM

"Jeff has told us time and again what he thinks men should be able to get away with."

like what?

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 04:02 PM

- I believe it shouldn't boil down to that.

That's all this country runs on anymore. Public opinion.

Do enough people believe it's the truth, because that's all that matters anymore.

Facts be damned!

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-07 04:02 PM

Ruin a novel in one letter:

--- and Peace

#16 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-07 04:09 PM

- Who the ---- is Zachary Elwood?

The guy who posted QUOTES from Mark Judges Statement.

You are supposed to be smarter than Jeffy.....

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 04:28 PM

-You are supposed to be smarter than Jeffy.....

I'll bet you think you're supposed to be smarter than Jeffy...

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 04:31 PM

I don't have to be... I have a parrot that is.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 04:50 PM

I regret Ballwasher's mom didn't have the guts to get that abortion.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-07 07:17 PM

Ruin a novel in one letter:

W
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P
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#21 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-07 08:54 PM

The -------.

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 09:12 PM

Dinger needs a new op-ed thread. This one ain't gonna make 45 unless someone can find a trans angle.

#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 10:11 PM

" Women are just objects to him. (Children too)

#10 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-01-07 03:40 PM | FLAG: "

Says the guy who supports males in women's spaces and sports and who supports the chemical and surgical sterilization of children. You might want to sit this one out.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:16 PM

Says the guy who supports males in women's spaces and sports

And we're off!!

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:19 PM

Up...

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:20 PM

up...

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:20 PM

and awaaaay!!

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:20 PM

I believe it shouldn't boil down to that.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-07 03:53 PM | Reply

The guy is unfit on temperament alone.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:27 PM

The guy is unfit on temperament alone.
#29 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

LMAO

Sure thing MrEverythingIsADeepFake!

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-07 11:31 PM

" The guy is unfit on temperament alone.

#29 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-07 11:27 PM | FLAG: "

If he'd been calm you would say it was proof of his guilt.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:31 PM

Nah. i'd say he was smart.

You don't act like a petulant child in front of the world during a job interview. It was pathetic, even if they were total lies. He conducted himself unprofessionally.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:33 PM

He went on to straight up lie to Susan Collins about Roe V Wade, then reversed it the first chance he got.

I believe Ford.

#33 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:34 PM

He was being falsely accused of rape. Hell, the Swetnick allegations were introduced as evidence by Democrats. It was an attempt to absolutely destroy him personally over obvious lies.

His response was human and understandable.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:36 PM

Sure thing MrEverythingIsADeepFake!

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-07 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have never before written the words "deep fake" on this blog in the 20 years I've been here. What are you smoking?

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:36 PM

obvious lies.

The obvious lie was the implication by 5 of the 6 justices that they wouldn't change Roe V Wade because it was established law. Stare Decisis.

Given that Kavanaugh has proven himself to have zero credibility, I believe Ford was telling the truth.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:38 PM

Her story was so obviously a lie.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:43 PM

Kavanaugh is a lying POS. His testimony proved that, and his lie to Susan Collins' face.

Hypothetically, if Ford was lying, Kavanaugh still isn't good enough to be in that court. He can't control his temper at all.

Why you defend him is beyond me.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:45 PM

Her story was so obviously a lie.

Who? Lia Thomas?

8 more to go!

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:45 PM

#38. Yeah, he has SUCH a reputation for an uncontrollable temper. So much evidence to back it up.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:47 PM

Go watch his testimony again. He was barely in control of himself.

#41 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:48 PM

On camera in front of congress! It's a real stretch to say he's a raging ----- in private isn't it?

#42 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:49 PM

a reputation for an uncontrollable temper.

I thought he cried like Rittenhouse?

#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:49 PM

Threads like these are Jeff's way of deflecting attention away from his support for the traitorous Trump. Just sayin

#44 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-07 11:51 PM

45!!!

Cyas tomorrow!!

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-07 11:52 PM

Laura Mohr. Not everything is about Trump. I know that is hard for you to understand that but you need to.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:57 PM

I watched the entire testimony in real time.

Now you are pulling ------------- out of your rear.

Back your allegations up with evidence.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:59 PM

i already did.

He lied to the American public about Stare Decisis.
He lied to Susan Collins in her office about keeping Roe V Wade.
He lied about not getting drunk underage, even when his calendar has him at drinking parties...when he was 17 and the age there in Maryland was 21 at the time.
He lied about "boofing" meaning to fart, when any college keg partier knows it means to put alcohol in your rear to get super drunk fast.

There's more here:

www.hrc.org

#48 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:06 AM

www.nbcnews.com

WASHINGTON " Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., criticized the Supreme Court's ruling Friday to eliminate the constitutional right to an abortion, after they voted to confirm Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, two key votes in the decision to overturn a half-century-old precedent.

"This decision is inconsistent with what Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said in their testimony and their meetings with me, where they both were insistent on the importance of supporting long-standing precedents that the country has relied upon," Collins said in a statement.

#49 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:09 AM

" He lied about "boofing" meaning to fart, when any college keg partier knows it means to put alcohol in your rear to get super drunk fast."

I was a college keg partner and never heard that term. Also, the internet didn't exist at the time so a lot of slang was localized. When I was growing up "beefed" was synonymous with farted.

You are trying way too hard.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:32 AM

Also, Stare Decisis does not mean that no prior ruling can ever be overturned.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:33 AM

way to ignore all the links and focus on the butt chugging, jeff.

youre a hack.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 02:44 AM

" way to ignore all the links and focus on the butt chugging, jeff.

youre a hack.

#52 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-08 02:44 AM | FLAG: "

I was focused on your initial statements regarding his temperament. You couldn't find anything to substantiate those claims so you moved the goalposts and tried to shift the topic. THAT is what a hack does.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 03:11 AM

" You couldn't find anything to substantiate those claims "

watch the video. he was snarling, yelling, snorting, and crying. theres nothing to substantiate ... hes emotionally immature.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 03:47 AM

I watched it in real time. All of it. He was visibly angry. Rightfully so. He wasn't out of control by any stretch.

The allegations were so incredibly thin to the point of absurdity. Ford lied about a number of things including her fear of flying (PTSD) two front doors so she could escape her own house (they rented a portion of the house and added a second front door to completely separate the ownedcand rented portions of the house). She named four witnesses, nine of who could corroborate her allegations. Worst of all, her best friend at the time, Flatly stated that she'd never, ever attended any kind of a party with him and didn't even know him, but was present according to Ford. Ford's legal team threatened her friend, while she was in the hospital, to air dirty laundry on her if she didn't play hall and she still held firm.

How did you expect him to respond to all of that? "Thank you, sir. May I have another?"

Clarence Thomas reacted angrily at the attempt to completely destroy him as well. That crap was every bit as bogus and disgusting.

Maybe you should consider taking a more critical view of these allegations.

PLEASE tell me you don't regard the Swetnick allegations as credible.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:02 AM

Before I go to bed I have to thank you.

This is an actual discussion. Sure, there has been some sniping. But you are actually talking to me instead of just launching into a furry of attacks.

This is what I'm looking for most of the time and I appreciate you for talking.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:07 AM

Clarence Thomas reacted angrily at the attempt to completely destroy him as well.

As it turns out Thomas is taking bribes and no one will defend him on this.

Because it's that egregious.

#57 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 09:55 AM

Ruin a novel in one letter:

The Gropes of Wrath

#58 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-08 10:22 AM

From Beer to Eternity

This is the Thread where we learn that Jeffy was a fratboy keg sucker... to absolutely no one's surprise.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 10:40 AM

The Silence of the Lamps.

#60 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 10:42 AM

" As it turns out Thomas is taking bribes and no one will defend him on this"

He's not taking bribes. Get a grip.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 10:42 AM

LOL

#62 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 10:43 AM

Justice Thomas is bought and paid for.

#63 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 10:43 AM

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@TristanSnell

Eric Adams got free "gifts" of luxury commercial flights and fancy hotel stays, totaling in the six figures -- and he just got indicted by the Feds.

Clarence Thomas got free "gifts" of PRIVATE JET and YACHT trips, totaling over $4,000,000 -- and NOTHING is happening to him.
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#64 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 10:47 AM

What did Boof have to say?

#65 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:06 AM

WASHINGTON "In a public appeal for help, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has asked if "anyone has seen" a briefcase he accidentally left at a bar late last week.

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:09 AM

Speaking to reporters, Kavanaugh said that, after work last Friday, he dropped into a bar near the Supreme Court "to have a few pops," and inadvertently forgot to take his briefcase when he left.

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:09 AM

John Wilkes Boof?

So, where is that bastard when we actually need him?

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:09 AM

Kavanaugh, who appeared to have some difficulty reconstructing the time line of the evening, said that he arrived at the bar "around seven" and that it was "ten, maybe ten-thirty when they asked me to leave."

The jurist was evasive when asked to describe the contents of his briefcase, saying only that it was "work papers and junk" that he would "really like to have back."

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:09 AM

---- Corky! C'mon.

#70 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:10 AM

sigh

#71 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:10 AM

- ---- Corky!

Not on your best day!

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:11 AM

I made you F up, I made you F up!

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:12 AM

John Wilkes Boof

Okay, that's funny.

#74 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:12 AM

Jeffy Boof Bell isn't bad either.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:14 AM

You know after shots of tequila you're up for anything.

#76 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:14 AM

Or my cousin Lee Boofy Boofwald

#77 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:15 AM

Don't forget Boof Bonser!

www.baseball-reference.com

#78 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 11:16 AM

Boof and wax.

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 11:16 AM

So, Lee...

Like others who have done the opposite I quit drinking AFTER my divorce in the 80's.

I was sitting at one table alone, representing myself. My wife was at the next table in front of the Court. The Judge entered, we all stood. He sat, picked up some papers, looked at them.

Then he looked up over his glasses at my wife and said, "Hi, Tina, how are your parents?".

Well, that did it. I sobered up REAL fast!

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:22 AM

"Wait ... what? Journalists never admit when they're wrong."

Tell us you only watch RW shows without using those exact words.

Of course someone not admitting when they're wrong is kind of YOUR lane, isn't it?

#81 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-08 11:26 AM

#80 should be 'Unlike others'

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 11:40 AM

Journalists in the legacy media rarely admit when they are wrong.

It's one of the many reasons trust in the media is at historic all tIme lows.

They have cratered their own credibility with no seeming interest in introspection to change course.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 11:41 AM

Journalists in the legacy media rarely admit when they are wrong.

It's one of the many reasons trust in the media is at historic all tIme lows.

They have cratered their own credibility with no seeming interest in introspection to change course.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger

Are you saying Journalists use the Jeff Bellringer Method (patent pending)?

Run Away or Change the Subject?

#84 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-08 12:13 PM

Sycophant,

Are you still beating your wife?

The record low trust on the media is 100% self inflicted. Care to address that?

#85 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 12:26 PM

"Journalists in the legacy media rarely admit when they are wrong."

The New York Times literally has a corrections page every day.

By comparison, Fox News lied to you, even when they knew they were lying to you. That difference cost them $787 million.

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-08 01:27 PM

I don't watch cable news. Swore it off over a decade ago.

How about you? Avid CNN watcher?

#87 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:36 PM

By comparison, Fox News lied to you, even when they knew they were lying to you. That difference cost them $787 million.

#86 | Posted by Danforth

$787 million so far...

#88 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-08 03:05 PM

I don't watch cable news. Swore it off over a decade ago.

How about you? Avid CNN watcher?

#87 | Posted by BellRinger

Is that why you have no clue what's going on ever?

You get your news from Hannity and 4chan?

#89 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-08 03:06 PM

"I don't watch cable news."

And 4-chan has a corrections page?

What's Daily Stormer's corrections pub: Making it Reich???

#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-08 03:56 PM

goosestep your way to victory

#91 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 03:56 PM

I guarantee you one of the five idiots posting as strawbringer watches Hannity and reads breitbart.

#92 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 04:00 PM

" You get your news from Hannity and 4chan?

#89 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-01-08 03:06 PM | FLAG: "

Nope. I diversify my sourc es of news and information because unlike you I don't want to get caught in a bubble.

#93 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:55 PM

" #90 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-08 03:56 PM | FLAG: "

That was funny.

#94 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:56 PM

#92. There is only one Bellringer, Alexandrite. And that DR legend is me. I ring bells and occasionally clean clocks.

Here is my theme song:

www.youtube.com

#95 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:59 PM

- DR legend

You've mythpelled 'myth'.

- I diversify my sourc es of news

I can verify that; his Threads are more often than not dedicated to articles from publishers whose most common feature is that there is no ABOUT link on the website... because if you knew who they were you wouldn't give them any credence at all... as they are far right wing propaganda sites spreading everything from paleoconservative racist bile to whatever the Corporations who keep them in business tell them to say.

Facts are optional, of course.

#96 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 05:08 PM

92. There is only one Bellringer, Alexandrite. And that DR legend is me. I ring bells and occasionally clean clocks.

Here is my theme song:

www.youtube.com

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 04:59 PM | Reply

Your ignorance of what a bellringer is isn't astounding. It's literally not a tough guy. Just sayin

#97 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 05:13 PM

Quasimodo was a bellringer.

#98 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-08 05:31 PM

#98

He was better looking, though.

#99 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 05:35 PM

I diversify my sourc es of news and information because unlike you I don't want to get caught in a bubble

lol ... .George Santos has more credibility than this death-dealing -----.

#100 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-08 05:53 PM

SO now Agent Orange is asking for Emergency Powers to Impose Tariffs Immediately without them being vetted for National Security concerns.

www.theguardian.com

it would make a good thread

#101 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-08 06:22 PM

"I diversify my sources of news and information"

Not based on the articles you post.

#102 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-08 06:23 PM

" Quasimodo was a bellringer.

#98 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2025-01-08 05:31 PM | FLAG: "
Quasimodo was a bad ass. He had a humped back and shht.

#103 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 06:53 PM

The record low trust on the media is 100% self inflicted. Care to address that?

#85 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The only bell you ring is your own.

And.

Maths are hard!

Trumpy and his allies on Fixed News and elsewhere are inflicting heavy damage. So it's not possible to be "%100 self inflicted".

Trump frequently complains about media coverage he perceives as unfair to him, often calling members of the media at his rallies "enemy of the people' and "fake news," and encouraging audiences to boo them. On Sunday he referred to reporters as "bloodsuckers," as well. He referred to Democrats as "demonic" at the rally and told the audience he was going off the teleprompter to speak "truth."

So. Obviously NOT all "self inflected". Definitely not 100%.

Care to redo your math?

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