Monday, September 22, 2025

Charlie Kirk Was Not "a Modern Day St. Paul"

Though it has been said before, it should be said again: Catholics--and all people of good will--condemn Kirk's murder in the strongest possible terms. His death was an American tragedy. He was a husband, father and human being shot in the most gruesome way. His murder was an abhorrent crime against our shared human dignity and an act of evil. He did not deserve to die, and we should make it a point to pray for him, his family, and all those killed by acts of gun violence. But that does not mean he was "a modern-day St. Paul."

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Any reflection on the legacy of Kirk cannot gloss over the pain and suffering that Kirk inflicted on innumerable people through his harsh, divisive and combative rhetoric. We have published some of those perspectives in the National Catholic Reporter in recent days, but in any conversations about Kirk's legacy, we cannot ignore his racism, sexism and xenophobia.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 12:09 PM

The rhetoric at the Memorial from Trump and Stephen Miller was more than harsh, it was telling.

"The Dragon You Have Awakened

There was a stunning contrast in the messages of two speakers today at the memorial service for Charlie Kirk. On one hand, Erika Kirk said she forgave the man who killed her husband, and that the answer to hatred isn't more hatred but love.

By contrast, Stephen Miller said that the DRAGON has been awakened, and Donald Trump also remarked how he hates his opponents."

www.youtube.com

4+ mins with Miller and Trump's remarks

the Dragon

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#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-22 12:23 PM

How dare he mock the italian grift that is the Church! Both kirk and the Church are grifters of hate or division with some nice people in the mix.

#3 | Posted by Brennnn at 2025-09-22 12:59 PM

Charlie's dead and the repug filth won't honor his request to release the Epstein Files.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 02:14 PM

But that does not mean he was "a modern-day St. Paul."
~ Gal Karma.

The irony of someone posting about the Catholic religion, and calling the assassination of Kirk, Karma.

I am not religious, but Gal, and Corky; I can tell you're the worst kind of Catholics.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-22 02:39 PM

RUNT, Kirk called for Biden's execution. GFY

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-22 02:51 PM

#5

Doesn't know jack... about religion, politics, or English comprehension.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-22 03:04 PM

Karma.

#5 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

"What goes around comes around" is part of everyday culture.

No religion need be involved.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-22 03:08 PM

Kirk was a nasty, grifting punk. Not a capital offense. And certainly not in MAGAtlandia. That said, dying does nothing to take away from the hate he seened to relish, not unlike a barnyard porker joyously rolling around in a muck-filled sty.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-22 03:09 PM

I can't believe that people are getting Charlie Kirk tattoos. Can you say cultist much??

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-22 03:12 PM

Kirk was more Saul than Paul. Persecuting good people.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-22 03:24 PM

But that does not mean he was "a modern-day St. Paul."~ Gal Karma.
The irony of someone posting about the Catholic religion, and calling the assassination of Kirk, Karma.
I am not religious, but Gal, and Corky; I can tell you're the worst kind of Catholics.
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

I'n not Catholic. I don't think Corky is either. It doesn't matter really. Cardinal Dolan of NY said Kirk was a modern day St. Paul on Fox News last week, and the article I have linked was published in the National Catholic Reporter.

PS I explained to you what karma means: what goes around comes around. Go around talking about the rational, prudent losses from gun violence necessary to maintain unfettered 2nd amendment rights, end up being one of those losses. I wouldn't have wished that karma on him, but then again I'm not for unfettered 2nd amendments and don't find the losses from gun violence rational and prudent.

KIRK: "You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry, and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am--I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-22 03:27 PM

I don't belong to any denomination... if I did, it might be eastern Anglican, which is a Reformation church.

(note; in the US Anglicans are called Episcopal, and Episcopal are in the Anglican church... don't ask)

Rev Ed short... Humanity vs Insanity

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#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-22 04:05 PM

@#5 ... I am not religious, but Gal, and Corky; I can tell you're the worst kind of Catholics. ...

So your current alias admits it has not a clue about what it posts?


Good to know.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-22 08:02 PM

I can't believe that people are getting Charlie Kirk tattoos. Can you say cultist much??

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-22 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag

Rates right up there with the Pfizer band aid tats, back when the COVID vaccine was made available.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-23 11:55 AM

Rates right up there with the Pfizer band aid tats, back when the COVID vaccine was made available.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Sounds fake.

Even if it's not, that's just as stupid.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-23 02:04 PM

Can't find anything online about "Pfizer bandaid tats".

Sounds like Turds, our resident pedophile supporter and ivermectin addict, is lying like he always does.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-23 02:31 PM

LOL!!!

Ol' Charlie, like his hero trump, was pure garbage.

#18 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-23 05:10 PM

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