Tuesday, October 07, 2025

Trump To Announce Farmer Bailout

The Trump administration is expected to announce a plan as soon as Tuesday to bail out U.S. farmers stung by trade disputes and big harvests, with the initial outlay potentially totaling up to $15 billion, according to sources familiar with the matter.

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Trump has made farmers into beggars.

As beggars, MAGA will turn on them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-07 08:19 AM

Hillbilly JD and Brahmin Usha Vance may not like this. They have shares in a vulture company called AcreTrader that specializes in selling seized foreclosed American farms to foreign investors. That's patriotism for you.

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-07 08:27 AM

A bandaid to get through the midterms.

Doesn't fix the base problem.

But it will ensure enough of them are stupid enough to vote GOP again anyway.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 08:38 AM

www.loc.gov

we've been bailing out farmers for a long time.

I only point that out because some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 08:43 AM

How does he plan to get congressional approval during the shutdown?

#5 | Posted by qcp at 2025-10-07 09:15 AM

some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.
#4 | Posted by eberly

Nobody thinks that.
Everybody thinks you're stupidly trying to save face for Republicans.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:20 AM

"we've been bailing out farmers for a long time."

And when was the last time we put farmers in a trade war so they sold $0 soybeans to China?

You live in a Clown World, Eberly.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:21 AM

"As beggars, MAGA will turn on them."

^
Why should we bail out farmers who made Bad Choices and planted the Wrong Crops?
We shouldn't.

Why should we bail out farmers who hired Illegals instead of American Citizens?
We shouldn't.

Fascists never think the other fascists will come for them.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:27 AM

" we've been bailing out farmers for a long time."

1. Not to this extent.

2. Not because of repeated self-inflicted gunshots.

Just admit: sales dropping to $0 is unprecedented, and a MAJOR eff-up.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 10:26 AM

9

Oh, it's a huge screw up on Trump's part. That's what makes it different.

Not the size of the bailout.

en.wikipedia.org

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 10:52 AM

Not our first embargo.

"In 1979, US President Jimmy Carter issued an embargo on the export of wheat to the Soviet Union as a response to the Soviet"Afghan War. But the embargo did not bring any positive effect to the USA. The Soviet Union eluded the embargo by increasing its domestic wheat production and importing from other countries. The Reagan administration lifted the embargo in 1981, but US farmers suffered financially, leading the US government to introduce bailout programs to the dairy industry. Bailouts helped the dairy industry to increase production however the US government had to buy all oversupply. Later the Reagan administration spent $100 million annually to store and transport all dairy oversupply worth $3 billion from the previous administration.[17][12]"

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 10:54 AM

"Later the Reagan administration spent $100 million annually"

So...today's equivalent of $350 million, adjusted for inflation.
www.bls.gov

Trump's Bailout is $15 billion. 4,000% higher.

Thanks for proving my #1 point. Any comment on point #2?

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:14 AM

"dairy oversupply worth $3 billion from the previous administration."

My apologies: I missed this in the original equation. Once adjusted, that adds $10 billion. Trump's is "only" 50% higher...but that is all for less than one year, while the others represent multiple years.

And, as usual, it excludes the interest we'll pay to service the extra debt.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:21 AM

-Any comment on point #2?

an embargo that's not worked...or at least not worked yet and comes with significant consequences....that any thinking person would have known would lead to this bailout.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:24 AM

"any thinking person would have known would lead to this bailout."

Are you saying that leaves out Republicans?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:28 AM

"an embargo that's not worked...or at least not worked yet and comes with significant consequences."

Thanks for proving my point #2.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:29 AM

15

which republicans? elected officials or farmers?

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:31 AM

-Thanks for proving my point #2.

I'm glad you view my words as "proof".

But it's really just agreement.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:32 AM

Shouldn't the democrats make this an issue?

Run on the bailout as being necessary only because of horrible incompetence in the first place.

Point out that even with this bailout, farmers are still suffering unnecessarily. It could have been avoided. IOW, outright point the finger at the entire republican party for this mess.

Is it futile? Meaning that even if the democrats did this....they still can't expect to get anywhere some swing states? Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc....can't they pick up seats in congress and turn some of those states blue in the presidential election over this issue?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:42 AM

we've been bailing out farmers for a long time.

I only point that out because some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.

#4 | Posted by eberly

I didn't think it started with Trump.

But I also see a difference between subsidies to level out year to year variability in pricing and production and intentionally burning the farms down then paying for it to keep them politically happy.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:03 PM

Shouldn't the democrats make this an issue?
Run on the bailout as being necessary only because of horrible incompetence in the first place.

That would require actual leadership from the animated corpse known as Chuck Schumer.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:16 PM

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