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Tuesday, October 07, 2025

The Trump administration is expected to announce a plan as soon as Tuesday to bail out U.S. farmers stung by trade disputes and big harvests, with the initial outlay potentially totaling up to $15 billion, according to sources familiar with the matter.

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Trump has made farmers into beggars.

As beggars, MAGA will turn on them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-07 08:19 AM | Reply

Hillbilly JD and Brahmin Usha Vance may not like this. They have shares in a vulture company called AcreTrader that specializes in selling seized foreclosed American farms to foreign investors. That's patriotism for you.

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-07 08:27 AM | Reply

A bandaid to get through the midterms.

Doesn't fix the base problem.

But it will ensure enough of them are stupid enough to vote GOP again anyway.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 08:38 AM | Reply

www.loc.gov

we've been bailing out farmers for a long time.

I only point that out because some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 08:43 AM | Reply

How does he plan to get congressional approval during the shutdown?

#5 | Posted by qcp at 2025-10-07 09:15 AM | Reply

some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.
#4 | Posted by eberly

Nobody thinks that.
Everybody thinks you're stupidly trying to save face for Republicans.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:20 AM | Reply

"we've been bailing out farmers for a long time."

And when was the last time we put farmers in a trade war so they sold $0 soybeans to China?

You live in a Clown World, Eberly.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:21 AM | Reply

"As beggars, MAGA will turn on them."

^
Why should we bail out farmers who made Bad Choices and planted the Wrong Crops?
We shouldn't.

Why should we bail out farmers who hired Illegals instead of American Citizens?
We shouldn't.

Fascists never think the other fascists will come for them.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 09:27 AM | Reply

" we've been bailing out farmers for a long time."

1. Not to this extent.

2. Not because of repeated self-inflicted gunshots.

Just admit: sales dropping to $0 is unprecedented, and a MAJOR eff-up.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 10:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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Oh, it's a huge screw up on Trump's part. That's what makes it different.

Not the size of the bailout.

en.wikipedia.org

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 10:52 AM | Reply

Not our first embargo.

"In 1979, US President Jimmy Carter issued an embargo on the export of wheat to the Soviet Union as a response to the Soviet"Afghan War. But the embargo did not bring any positive effect to the USA. The Soviet Union eluded the embargo by increasing its domestic wheat production and importing from other countries. The Reagan administration lifted the embargo in 1981, but US farmers suffered financially, leading the US government to introduce bailout programs to the dairy industry. Bailouts helped the dairy industry to increase production however the US government had to buy all oversupply. Later the Reagan administration spent $100 million annually to store and transport all dairy oversupply worth $3 billion from the previous administration.[17][12]"

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 10:54 AM | Reply

"Later the Reagan administration spent $100 million annually"

So...today's equivalent of $350 million, adjusted for inflation.
www.bls.gov

Trump's Bailout is $15 billion. 4,000% higher.

Thanks for proving my #1 point. Any comment on point #2?

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:14 AM | Reply

"dairy oversupply worth $3 billion from the previous administration."

My apologies: I missed this in the original equation. Once adjusted, that adds $10 billion. Trump's is "only" 50% higher...but that is all for less than one year, while the others represent multiple years.

And, as usual, it excludes the interest we'll pay to service the extra debt.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:21 AM | Reply

-Any comment on point #2?

an embargo that's not worked...or at least not worked yet and comes with significant consequences....that any thinking person would have known would lead to this bailout.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:24 AM | Reply

"any thinking person would have known would lead to this bailout."

Are you saying that leaves out Republicans?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:28 AM | Reply

"an embargo that's not worked...or at least not worked yet and comes with significant consequences."

Thanks for proving my point #2.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-07 11:29 AM | Reply

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which republicans? elected officials or farmers?

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:31 AM | Reply

-Thanks for proving my point #2.

I'm glad you view my words as "proof".

But it's really just agreement.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:32 AM | Reply

Shouldn't the democrats make this an issue?

Run on the bailout as being necessary only because of horrible incompetence in the first place.

Point out that even with this bailout, farmers are still suffering unnecessarily. It could have been avoided. IOW, outright point the finger at the entire republican party for this mess.

Is it futile? Meaning that even if the democrats did this....they still can't expect to get anywhere some swing states? Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc....can't they pick up seats in congress and turn some of those states blue in the presidential election over this issue?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 11:42 AM | Reply

we've been bailing out farmers for a long time.

I only point that out because some of you seem to believe this started with Trump.

#4 | Posted by eberly

I didn't think it started with Trump.

But I also see a difference between subsidies to level out year to year variability in pricing and production and intentionally burning the farms down then paying for it to keep them politically happy.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:03 PM | Reply

Shouldn't the democrats make this an issue?
Run on the bailout as being necessary only because of horrible incompetence in the first place.

That would require actual leadership from the animated corpse known as Chuck Schumer.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:16 PM | Reply

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They could start by sitting down with lobbyists and the Executive director and the board of the American Soybean association.

soygrowers.com

What do they want? What can the democrats offer the republicans aren't?

And there are plenty of state associations as well........grain and feed, wheat, corn, etc......lots and lots of influence and money.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 12:22 PM | Reply

"What can the democrats offer the republicans aren't?"

Huh?

How can Democrats, who have no power in Washington, offer Republican farmers anything?

Stop looking for Democrats to solve Republican problems.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Shouldn't the democrats make this an issue?

They should.

But.

The Democratic Party is dead.

They've been campaigning on "Trump bad!" for the past decade.

The DNC blocked Bernie twice and are doing everything they can to stop Mamdani from winning in New York.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-07 12:28 PM | Reply

What can the democrats offer the republicans aren't?

Oh I don't know, how about not mindlessly following a demented old fool as they scuttle any and all international goodwill and preeminence of the United States?

You keep pulling this bulls(*& line as if it's not clear that anything is better than what the GOP is currently selling.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:30 PM | Reply

-You keep pulling this bulls(*& line as if it's not clear that anything is better than what the GOP is currently selling.

It's not bullshit. You yourself said the leadership is crap and Clown agrees with you.

I sincerely wish the democratic party would sell their advantages to these groups. Not just hope they decide on their own.

Why in the hell do you think these associations exist? If your view is simply "well, they should just know not to support a demented old fool...." then you're not understanding how important these relationships are.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 12:44 PM | Reply

"I sincerely wish the democratic party would sell their advantages to these groups"

Then go help them do it!

You're just a downright horrible person.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 12:45 PM | Reply

-The Democratic Party is dead.

If I posted that you'd all blow a gasket.

And if you really believed that, then you wouldn't be so hard on farmers for voting for Trump.......

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 12:53 PM | Reply

Nobody is harder on farmers who voted for Trump than Trump.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 12:54 PM | Reply

It's not bullshit. You yourself said the leadership is crap and Clown agrees with you.

Dude. It's not a hard concept.

On one hand, you have poor leadership but a return to a status quo that saw tens of billions of dollars in sales of various ag products on international markets and billions in sales for domestic aid programs.

On the other, you have an unnecessary trade war causing zero dollars of sales of ag products on international markets and zero dollars in sales for domestic aid programs, but a short term "fix" of debt fueled bailout money.

This. Is. Not. Hard.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:57 PM | Reply

"Why in the hell do you think these associations exist?"

To lobby for the Federal handouts.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 12:57 PM | Reply

If your view is simply "well, they should just know not to support a demented old fool...." then you're not understanding how important these relationships are.

#26 | Posted by eberly

Look, if they're still viewing this from a lens of normalcy then they are in fact stupid.

What will it take for them to realize that they're following a losing bet that will laugh all the way to the bank at their expense?

AGAIN.

THIS. IS. NOT. HARD.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-07 12:58 PM | Reply

If your view is simply "well, they should just know not to support a demented old fool...." then you're not understanding how important these relationships are.
#26 | Posted by eberly

Huh?

Everybody should know not to trust a demented old fool.

Who's the better spokesman to deliver that message to these poor farmers that your heart can't stop bleeding for?

The Republican from Kansas who understands "how important these relationships are."

Or the Liberal from the East Coast who thinks half these farmers are closeted homosexuals who enjoy tranny porn.

It's a tough call I know. Take all the time you need.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 01:02 PM | Reply

"a return to a status quo"

says who?

Where is the leadership in the democratic party saying anything like that to farmers and these organizations?

You not making the connection. You're jumping to the part where a lot of influential people just magically come to the conclusion you think they should.

It's not done by telepathy.

It's why these organizations exist and I were a serious democrat wanting to influence these people, there is a process.

I have to go for a while.

It's apparent someone is trying to stay no more than 2 inches from my anus on every thread and with every post.

Thank you all for ignoring that little twerp like I am.

This is a great discussion.......

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-07 01:11 PM | Reply

"Where is the leadership in the democratic party saying anything like that to farmers and these organizations?"

Here is an excerpt from the 2024 Democratic Party Platform.

AGRICULTURE

American farmers are the backbone of our country. They feed America, and help feed the world. But over the years, trickle-down economics has hit rural America hard. Farming costs have gone up and incomes have gone down. Big Agriculture moved in, telling too many small farms that the surest path to success was to get big or get out. As a result, we lost over 400,000 farms in America in the last 40 years, and rural communities have paid a steep price. Too many young people have had to leave their hometowns to find good-paying work and a shot at their dreams.

The President believes that no one should have to leave the community where they grew up just to find opportunity. His Investing in America agenda is investing in all of America, including farms and rural areas. It's creating new sources of income for farmers and increasing competition among suppliers, to both lower the cost of farm inputs and to get small and mid-size farmers a larger share of profits. The Inflation Reduction Act is helping farmers and ranchers adopt climate-smart practices, which make the land more resilient and increase profitability, while connecting them to new markets and premiums for sustainably produced commodities. The Administration recognizes the critical role that our land stewards play in our food systems, economy, and environment, and is working hard to drive both public and private funds to reward these champions for nature for their hard work. The Administration has also supported independent meat and poultry processing, reducing producers' reliance on big companies to buy their product; and it's working to make livestock and poultry markets fairer and more transparent. Today, family farms have more income from more varied sources, so their children have more opportunity to stay family farmers.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 01:14 PM | Reply

half these farmers are closeted homosexuals who enjoy tranny porn.
#33 | Posted by snoofy

I have to go for a while.
#34 | Posted by eberly

Nailed it!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-07 01:18 PM | Reply

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