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Monday, June 17, 2024

Rich Logis was, as he puts it, a MAGA-American - a reference to Trump's slogan, Make America Great Again.



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Then he woke up.

#1 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-17 12:45 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...
... He's publicly decried his former hero and called the Republican Party irredeemable. Earlier this year, he founded a group, called Leaving MAGA, aimed at creating a community of people who have abandoned Trump.

Logis exemplifies a rarity in the U.S. political landscape of 2024: a man who changed his mind. A 2022 Pew Research study found that Americans are increasingly polarized, more and more likely to view those with different political views as "close-minded," "dishonest" and "immoral." In an age of toxic partisanship and echo chambers, Logis says he's broken free.

But if Logis' story offers hope for those who want to believe in the power of persuasion, it also comes with a major caveat. Changing politics for Logis wasn't as simple as swapping bumper stickers or voter registration cards. It was a process of personal reinvention. Of changing communities. Of losing friends. ...

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-17 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's not alone....

"Why a Second Term Horrifies These Former Trump Supporters

Republican Voters Against Trump"

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-17 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There really is a pill to fix MAGA.

#4 | Posted by mattm at 2024-06-17 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 | Posted by mattm

Seriously. They are looking into it as a treatment for all sorts of mental illness...

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-17 03:03 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by mattm

To add this is despite the outright lies the government originally published under Bush on neurotoxicity and were quickly debunked.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-17 03:08 PM | Reply

I am currently providing Ketamine for PTSD and treatment resistant depression. Cool to see someone that has been suicidal for decades walk out and be free of it. Opens pathways for making rapid gains in therapy.
MDMA has run into a stumbling block at the FDA and will be delayed for awhile yet.

#7 | Posted by mattm at 2024-06-17 03:53 PM | Reply

How big of a dose? Micro, sending them off to the K hole for awhile, or somewhere in between?

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-06-18 08:32 AM | Reply

IM dosing is 0.5 to 1.25 mg per Kg. Typically 40 to 70 mg for the first dose and then I offer a booster of 20 to 30 mg. Full dissociative state without any respiratory depression. Sessions is 3 hours, 10 minutes discussing expectations, 15 minute meditation, first injection, booster at 15 minutes if they consent. About 45 60 minutes while they are on their journey and then an hour to wake up, do some processing, have a snack, cup of tea, ambulate to the bathroom. Discharged to their driver. Their is also prep work the day before along with the intake, and a followup call the next day to further process the experience and set up the next treatment if desired. Not an FDA approved indication, so insurance will not cover it. I accept referrals only from therapists that know me and have been working with the person for a while.

This is typical for psychiatric IM practices. Infusion clinics have different processes.

#9 | Posted by mattm at 2024-06-18 08:59 AM | Reply

This is really interesting, Matt. I appreciate the good work. I know psychedelic drugs can be problematic, but they can also be helpful.

#10 | Posted by cbob at 2024-06-18 09:07 PM | Reply

Set and Setting is very important. Side effects are rare and minor. The bad trips occur when not prepared or ambushed by the drug. MDMA in a quiet room with a therapist is a very different experience than at a Rave after dancing for 8 hours and drinking 6 red bulls.
Shamans have been using these substances for 100s 1000s? of years. Peyote, Ayahuasca, psilocyban. European conquerers only had alcohol and didn't understand psychedilics and tried to extinguish the cultures.
About 8 years ago I started asking more in depth questions about psychedelic use during addiction intakes. Almost universally described as great experiences that sometimes would lead to significant periods of remission. I'm waiting for the puritans to pass laws and shut it all down. My operation is on a shoestring so won't cost me much if they do.
Many providers offer experiential journeys, meaning, you don't have to have any pathology, but want to experience a great connection. Most of us have done some journeys and let me tell you it can be life changing.

#11 | Posted by mattm at 2024-06-19 10:32 AM | Reply

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