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Monday, June 17, 2024

Reeling from a string of defeats, anti-abortion groups and their Republican allies in state governments are using an array of strategies to counter proposed ballot initiatives ...

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... The tactics include attempts to get signatures removed from initiative petitions, legislative pushes for competing ballot measures that could confuse voters and monthslong delays caused by lawsuits over ballot initiative language. Abortion rights advocates say many of the strategies build off ones tested last year in Ohio, where voters eventually passed a constitutional amendment affirming reproductive rights.

The strategies are being used in one form or another in at least seven states where initiatives aimed at codifying abortion and reproductive rights are proposed for the November ballot. The fights over planned statewide ballot initiatives are the latest sign of the deep divisions created by the U.S. Supreme Court's decision two years ago to end a constitutional right to abortion. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-17 02:11 PM | Reply

The organized anti-abortion people aren't upstanding people. They have no qualms about lies, cheats, and threats of harm. This is why they deserve to lose.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-17 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#2

They deserve to lose because they're trying to turn women into property.

Their tactics are to be expected given their goal.

#3 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-06-18 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

womens rights are under attack by ideology from the right and the left. on the right led by the misogyny of the patriarchal led religionists.
and from the left by the transgender crowd insinuating themselves into female only spaces.

#4 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This week (or next) the SC is going to issue a decision in the EMTALA case. This case involves supremacy of Federal law over State law. At issue is whether hospitals that receive federal funding (Medicaid and Medicare) can refuse emergency reproductive care due to state restrictions on abortion. At oral arguments (and from tea leaf reading of the SC) it is clear that this SC will rule that state law can supersede federal law in abortion related issues.

Since the Idaho law went into effect, 6 women have had to be airlifted out of Idaho to receive lifesaving care since they were refused abortions. The EMTALA case will cost women their lives.

The -------- state abortion laws are impacting blue states. Women are not able to obtain the necessary reproductive care because the providers are swamped. A NH Democratic Congressional candidate had to have still birth in a bathtub because she could not access a hospital for care because the facilities were swamped.

The FACTS are that since the passage of Dobbs:

1. The rate of abortions have increased.
2. The hazards of being pregnant have increased.
3. The cost and effort to obtain an abortion have increased.
4. The impact of the "states deciding the issue" has impacted states that do not choose to restrict abortion-thus abortion restricting states are causing de facto abortion restrictions in enlightened states.
5. The number of women choosing to get pregnant has declined.
6. Women choosing to take permanent measures (tubes tied) to prevent pregnancy has increased.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 04:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

womens rights are under attack by ideology from the right and the left. on the right led by the misogyny of the patriarchal led religionists.
and from the left by the transgender crowd insinuating themselves into female only spaces.

#4 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

BrerBabbitt is a ------- -------.

How many trans people are actual "insinuating themselves into female only spaces"?

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#6 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

you mean like Lia Thomas trying to knock a biological female out of her chance to go to the Olympics?

the internet has more examples every day of biological females being usurped in sports by men posing as women

you can virtue signal till hell freezes over but you just look like a sanctimonious fool

#7 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 04:26 PM | Reply

you mean like Lia Thomas trying to knock a biological female out of her chance to go to the Olympics?
the internet has more examples every day of biological females being usurped in sports by men posing as women
you can virtue signal till hell freezes over but you just look like a sanctimonious fool

#7 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

There are 520,000 college athletes.

There are 40 trans women collegiate athletes.

The is one ------- on this thread, so far.

But, feel free to be an ------- and derail from the republicans scummy scumminess

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 04:36 PM | Reply

Separate sporting events based on gender is sexist and highlights how women are physically inferior to men.

Get rid of all gender categories and let the best athlete win.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-18 04:41 PM | Reply

#9 POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Separate sporting events based on gender is sexist .... and you don't want to be labeled "sexist" do you?

and highlights how women are physically inferior to men....if this is true then for the sake of fairness doesn't it demand separate categories for biological men and women?

#10 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 04:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#8 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

your refusal to allow women the God given autonomy of their biological sex in deference to a mans sexual fantasies is truly revealing. you're as fanatical in your own way as the MAGA'ts

#11 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 04:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#8 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
your refusal to allow women the God given autonomy of their biological sex in deference to a mans sexual fantasies is truly revealing. you're as fanatical in your own way as the MAGA'ts

#11 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

What sexual fantasies are those?

You reprehensible bigot.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

women are physically inferior to men....if this is true
#10 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

It's not true?

Then what's the issue?

Seems like you don't know what you're talking about.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-18 05:21 PM | Reply

#12 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

the fantasy that they are of the female sex...but then you know that. precisely why as the woke agenda proves to be so hurtful, so deceitful, it's becoming harder and harder for your ilk to spread your phony science ideology. only 2 sexes

#14 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 05:56 PM | Reply

Get rid of all gender categories and let the best athlete win.

#9 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

#15 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 05:57 PM | Reply

the fantasy that they are of the female sex...but then you know that. precisely why as the woke agenda proves to be so hurtful, so deceitful, it's becoming harder and harder for your ilk to spread your phony science ideology. only 2 sexes

#14 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

So a trans person believing they are not the gender they were assigned at birth is a sexual fantasy?

ummm ok

gender and sex are 2 different things.

Since you have been explained this numerous times, this means you are a hateful bigot.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#15 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Did you forget to post a response or were you quoting me?

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-18 06:32 PM | Reply

#16 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

your idiocy is tiresome to me and my perceived bigotry upsets you, so we disagree. If I thought you had some basis for your argument, other than deranged claims made by people who need help and reprehensible people in the medical profession. but you can't so you hurl insults. I'll accept that a person who identifies as a transexual believes they were born not in the body they would have chosen. all that means is they're unhappy.
I imagine a few little people feel they were born in the wrong body. anorexics think they're fat. grow up

#18 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 07:38 PM | Reply

"reprehensible people in the medical profession"

Bigoted fool calls others idiots

www.mayoclinic.org

#19 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-06-18 07:43 PM | Reply

#19 POSTED BY HAMBURGLAR

Gee...since your so interested in how people process inner feelings, research schizophrenia for starters

and the medical profession that told you it was alright to smoke.. thalidomide ...opioids

"reprehensible people in the medical profession"...they do exist

why did the Olympics just exclude men from womens categories...is anyone who disagrees about transgenders a bigot?

#20 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 07:59 PM | Reply

is anyone who disagrees about transgenders a bigot?

#20 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

anyone? I don't know, I don't judge by the group.

You? You do judge by the group.

Evidence? From this very thread:

"the left by the transgender crowd insinuating themselves into female only spaces"

"a mans sexual fantasies is truly revealing."

"the fantasy that they are of the female sex"

"it's becoming harder and harder for your ilk to spread your phony science ideology. only 2 sexes"

"deranged claims made by people who need help"

"I'll accept that a person who identifies as a transexual believes they were born not in the body they would have chosen. all that means is they're unhappy."

All of this reeks of bigotry

FWIW I have a friend who is trans. She is very successful, happily married and since transitioning far more happy.

So, I judge her a success and happy. Thus my opinion on transgender people is informed.

Your "opinion" comes from hatred and distaste and draws a conclusion without basis in fact. Thus you attack the medical professionals who study and treat actual human beings as reprehensible.

Truth Hurts Donut

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-18 09:03 PM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

first of all, I'm happy you have a friend. Be that as it may, it changes nothing I've said. I'll tell you what, whatever J.K. Rowling said that you agree with or find offensive, I'm in total agreement with her, no more no less.
I'll say it again, I don't care what they do as transgender identifying people, but I will never concede a mans right to include themselves into areas reserved for biological females.
and if you can't understand that then you must truly be a unrepentant misogynist of the first order.

#22 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-18 09:46 PM | Reply

5. The number of women choosing to get pregnant has declined.

When a state makes it illegal to abort a fetus from a rape it becomes clear the GQP doesn't care about life. They only care about controlling women.

When they pass a law that forces a woman to carry a dying fetus in her body that poisons her, makes her ill and ruin her chances at having another baby it is clear they don't care about families. They only care about controlling women.

They are sick in the head.

#23 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-19 07:52 AM | Reply

So, like Republicans and conservatives in general they don't want the people to be demand a restoration of women's rights; basically they know that when the people get to vote directly on the issues they lose so their strategy is to prevent the people from having their say. I wish they would be honest and just admit that they don't really believe in democracyl
Think about this for a moment; why do we never hear about efforts by Democrats or liberals to make it harder to vote? What does that tell you?

#24 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-19 09:09 AM | Reply

the fantasy that they are of the female sex..

The utter sh**f**ery of this bigoted opinion is astounding.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-19 09:11 AM | Reply

So, like Republicans and conservatives in general they don't want the people to be demand a restoration of women's rights

When the incels talk about MAGA...they mean making women subservient to men. Just like it was in the bible...a fantasy myth written by men.

So was the reason why your grandparents stayed married because American culture was so much more moral than it is now?

No. Laws were crafted to keep women from being independent. Men were the sole owner of property, even property the wife BROUGHT into the marriage. Men could refuse to allow women to get a job. Women needed their husbands to co=sign on credit cards, checking accounts, etc.

www.history.com

So these abortion bans are just another step in controlling women by "alpha" males.

#26 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-19 09:25 AM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY NIXON

Yes....FANTASY. Do you deny psychiatry? Do you deny people can be delusional? YOU are a prime example of someone who gives permission to actual bigots and racists who cite your stupid woke agenda as reason enough to vote for someone like trump.
I don't believe that YOU believe what you're saying. But you think it'll make you look tolerant and on the cutting edge of social justice.
a human born a male CAN NOT become a female.
I'll be happy to read any definitive evidence to the contrary

#27 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-19 10:05 AM | Reply

ssh**e allowed to divert this thread from abortion and conservative strategies intended to prevent citizens from using the legal process of ballot initiative to change state Constitutions to prevent the Christian Taliban from controlling women's bodies? Just to express his transphobia? Hey, we know you hate trans people but that has nothing to do with this thread so go hang with your fellow haters somewhere else!

#28 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-19 11:46 AM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY DANNI

I don't hate trans identifying people. I despise willful stupidity

I support a womans right to choose.... 100 per cent

I support the biological women who do not want title 9 subjected to change so as to include men in sports categories set aside for women

what part of that is so damn hard for you to understand?

#29 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-19 12:08 PM | Reply

"what part of that is so damn hard for you to understand?"

Actually I agree with you on that, I didn't understand your position on transgender people but now you have clarified it so now I'm sorry I lumped you in with those who just hate that trans peole exist.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-19 01:31 PM | Reply

#30 POSTED BY DANNI

I'm pretty much live and let live but I am absolutely adamant about women's rights. to the point of being ashamed to be a man sometimes.

#31 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-19 01:52 PM | Reply

Rabbit hole is just another Russian stooge.

#32 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-19 02:55 PM | Reply

#32 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD

as opposed to the woke-joke poster-damus ...knows all sees all...but still can't figure it out

#33 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-19 03:43 PM | Reply

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