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Sunday, August 25, 2024

Pavel Durov, the Russian-French billionaire founder and CEO of the Telegram messaging app, was arrested at Bourget airport outside Paris on Saturday evening,

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This arrest has Elmo freaking out.

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#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-25 10:58 AM | Reply

Good.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-25 11:18 AM | Reply

The arrest of the 39-year-old technology billionaire prompted on Sunday a warning from Moscow to Paris that he should be accorded his rights and criticism from X owner Elon Musk who said that free speech in Europe was under attack.

I think the Europeans are onto something. We sound something Russia wants. Maybe they are willing to trade.

"Pavel Durov is a political prisoner - a victim of a witch-hunt by the West," Russian lawmaker Maria Butina told Reuters in the shadow of the Kremlin.

Butina, who spent 15 months in U.S. prison for acting as an unregistered Russian agent, said she saw the arrest as part of an attempt by the West to gain control over Telegram. Durov's arrest led news bulletins in Russia.

Hold him "hostage" until Russia releases all the hostages they are holding.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-25 11:31 AM | Reply


I think the Europeans are onto something.
~ DonorBot

Something China already has.

Totalitarianism.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


Hold him "hostage" until Russia releases all the hostages they are holding.
~ DonorBot

Now you're advocating terrorism?

When did the west completely collapse from its liberal ideals?

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 12:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The French authorities reportedly claim that Telegram's lack of content moderation and unwillingness to cooperate with law enforcement make Durov an accomplice to the drug trafficking, money laundering, and sharing of child pornography that allegedly occur via the app.

It figures IAMRUNT would simp for Durov.

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-25 12:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

They're holding the app developer responsible for the actions of the users?

I can't say I agree with that.

That's like holding Google responsible for emails sent on Gmail.

Also. Can't say I agree with the idea the government or some other NSA type agency should be monitoring all communications.

This big brother world we live in would shock Orwell.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-08-25 01:28 PM | Reply

No one is forcing you to use the app.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-25 03:31 PM | Reply

No one's forcing you to muster such a pathetic response.

The government shouldn't be monitoring everything we do.

App Developers shouldn't be responsible for the actions of people using their software.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-08-25 03:37 PM | Reply

The world DonorBot drools over ...

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#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 03:41 PM | Reply


They're holding the app developer responsible for the actions of the users?
#7 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Not really, they are holding the app developer because they would allow government to spy on conversations within the app.


That's like holding Google responsible for emails sent on Gmail.

The government has a way of knowing whats in your emails regardless of Google allowing it.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 03:43 PM | Reply

BREAKING - Telegram announced that Apple will remove the Telegram app from their phones without their joint notice. Telegram announced that to prevent this, apply to mentioned settings.

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#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 06:40 PM | Reply

I disagree with all of this.

It's tyranny.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-08-25 07:07 PM | Reply

The government has a way of knowing whats in your emails regardless of Google allowing it.

POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Yeah them ebil radical liberals warned you about that too.

Wait. Why would you care unless you have something to hide?

And that's what you maga maroons (formerly known as republicans) said to us back then, too.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-25 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I disagree with all of this.

It's tyranny.

#13 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2024-08-25 07:07 PM | FLAG:

You sound like a MAGAt

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-08-26 06:00 AM | Reply

Finally the charges against Pavel Durov has been published:
- Complicity - Administration of an online platform to allow an illegal transaction in an organised band,
- Refusal to communicate, at the request of the authorised authorities, the information or documents necessary for the realisation and exploitation of interceptions authorised by law,
- Complicity - Detention of the image of a minor of a ----------------- nature,
- Complicity - Dissemination, offer or making available in an organised tape of images of a minor of a pornographic nature,
- Complicity - Acquisition, transport, holding, offer or disposal of narcotic products,
- Complicity - Offer, assignment or making available without legitimate reason of equipment, an instrument, a program or data designed or adapted for the attack and access to the operation of an automated data processing system,
- Complicity - Organised gang scam,
- Association of criminals with a view to committing a crime or offence punishable by 5 years of imprisonment at least,
- Money laundering of crimes or offences in organised gangs,
- Provision of cryptology services to ensure confidentiality functions without a declaration of conformity,
- Provision of a cryptological means not exclusively ensuring authentication or integrity control functions without prior declaration,
- Import of a cryptology means that does not exclusively perform authentication or integrity control functions without prior declaration.

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#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-26 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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If that's the case, the French government needs to put every person/company in jail that own servers.

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-08-26 04:22 PM | Reply

I'm sure it's all France.

#18 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-08-26 09:07 PM | Reply

I'm sure it's all France.

#18 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-08-26 09:07 PM | Reply | Flag

It's all of Western Europe, but France is the country that locked him up.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-08-27 10:50 AM | Reply

He fled Russia and purposefully selected to land in a country where he knew he'd be immediately arrested on landing.

Spy games are afoot. Speculation is he gave the encryption keys for Telegram to NATO because he'd have been thrown out of a window in Russia.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-08-27 02:03 PM | Reply

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#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-08-27 02:03 PM
He fled Russia and purposefully selected to land in a country where he knew he'd be immediately arrested on landing.

Yep, he has a dual citizenship, Russian and French.

Spy games are afoot. Speculation is he gave the encryption keys for Telegram to NATO because he'd have been thrown out of a window in Russia.

"Defenestration! The only way to fly!"
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#21 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-08-27 05:28 PM | Reply

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#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-25 06:40 PM
BREAKING - Telegram announced that Apple will remove the Telegram app from their phones without their joint notice. Telegram announced that to prevent this, apply to mentioned settings.

Kremlin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov: "Moscow is ready and wants to support Pavel Durov in every way, but finds it complicated"
"Considering his Russian citizenship, we are ready to provide all necessary assistance and support, but the situation is complicated by the fact that he is also a citizen of France."

Soon after Durov's arrest Russian officials were ordered to delete their correspondence in their Telegram accounts. "No one is calling on anyone to clean anything," said Dmitry Peskov.

President of France Emmanuel Macron has been actively using Telegram since the beginning of his first presidential campaign. Members of the French government and politicians "of all ranks and parties," especially among Macron's supporters use the messenger service as well.

An unnamed French Justice Ministry official familiar with the background of the Durov case said that Telegram caused disappointment within the French authorities due to their unwillingness to cooperate "in dirty cases."
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#22 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-08-27 05:38 PM | Reply

After four days in the custody of French police, the head of the social media messaging app has been charged with complicity in spreading sexual images of children and other alleged crimes.

www.vice.com

So that's why Elmo is in this orc's corner.

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-28 08:00 PM | Reply

An update...

Telegram CEO Durov placed under formal investigation and banned from leaving France
www.france24.com

... Russian-born Pavel Durov, the CEO of messaging app Telegram, will be placed under formal investigation after four days of questioning by French police and is forbidden to leave French territory, Paris prosecutors said on Wedneday following Durov's appearance in a Paris court. Durov was arrested outside of Paris on Saturday in a probe of 12 alleged crimes related to drug trafficking, the sale of child sexual abuse material and fraud on the messaging platform. ...

Allegations against the Russia-born Durov, who is a French citizen, include that his platform is being used for child sexual abuse material and drug trafficking, and that Telegram refused to share information or documents with investigators when required by law. ...




#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-28 08:40 PM | Reply

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