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Sunday, March 09, 2025

Representatives from the Department of Government Efficiency repeatedly pressured the head of a United States water management agency to open a major California pump system in late January, intending to release a huge amount of water south toward Los Angeles -- even though the water would have never made it to the fire-scarred metropolis.

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DOGE sent two young staffers to release water in California for a political photo op. Eventually water was released by the Army Corp far from the actual wildfires, wasting water that will be needed by farmers in the summer for irrigation. #doge #fires #CA www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a ...

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WHAT A ------- DOPE

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-07 05:56 PM | Reply

He's got this ignorant hero complex... thinking he's the only smart one in the room... and everyone is missing what is so oblivious to him.

#2 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-03-09 09:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Stable Genius.....

#3 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-09 10:32 AM | Reply

The demented orange pedo wasted billions of gallons of California's water.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-09 12:35 PM | Reply

I wonder if that means his giant, Columbia River diverting faucet won't work either?

"You have millions of gallons of water pouring down from the north with the snow caps and Canada, and all pouring down and they have essentially a very large faucet," Trump said this month. "We call that faucet the Columbia River. You turn the faucet and it takes one day to turn it, and it's massive, it's as big as the wall of that building right there behind you. You turn that, and all of that water aimlessly goes into the Pacific (Ocean), and if they turned it back, all of that water would come right down here and right into Los Angeles," he said.
LOL. Promises made. Promises not kept.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-09 12:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The cruelty is the point.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-09 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wasted. And water rates will go up late in the season for those GOP-loving farmers as drought kicks in.
But, this is the guy one of his Wharton profs described as about the dumbest student he ever had.

#7 | Posted by morris at 2025-03-09 02:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump's most redeeming quality is that sometimes his stupidity outpaces his obsession with punishing people.

#8 | Posted by cbob at 2025-03-09 02:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If we weren't all facing the coming effects of that stupidity, it'd be incredibly funny.

#9 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-10 12:04 PM | Reply

Picture Carroll O'Connor playing Archie and trump playing meathead...

#10 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-10 05:34 PM | Reply

I am wondering if this water could have been used to fill the empty reservoir that caused the firefighters to run dry. The local water managers are obviously incompetent, because when the wildfire crisis hit, they were totally (and I will add stupidly) unprepared. If these guys did a better job, intervention would be unnecessary.

ALSO the lakes in question belong to Army COE, not the state.

Trump is also going to have to address California's forestry management morons as well. They will have to do controlled burns again, regardless of whatever blue-haired nonsense they believe. It's not working! Do something different!

#11 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 06:10 PM | Reply

Itchy-get a map out and look at where the Columbia River is. It's 250 miles from the northern CA border with countless mountain ranges in between. It is impossible to tap that water. Our so-called president is even stupider than dimwit '43 and unfit for office.

#12 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-10 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12

It's evidently a race to the bottom.
Constant catastrophic wildfires and empty reservoirs aren't going to work either. Something must be done, even if it's not right. Anything is better than what they're doing now.

Maybe these lakes were used only because the state doesn't control them?

#13 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 06:35 PM | Reply

It is impossible to tap that water.

It looks like they dumped it on the ground with a mind to recover it elsewhere in the aquifer.
Either they do this, or the water just goes into the ocean.
I see the almond growers are agitated. Some say the almond growers use an unsustainable amount of water and are part of the problem in the first place. I expect they lobby up with the bribes to be allowed this, which would explain the state officials' upset.

#14 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 06:44 PM | Reply

Environmentalists argue that, despite the economic benefits of almond farming, the amount of water allocated to almond production is excessive and disproportionately impacts California's water resources, particularly in drought-prone areas. This threatens long-term water security and environmental health.

#15 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 06:53 PM | Reply

I am wondering if this water could have been used to fill the empty reservoir

This spill was about 20 times the capacity of that reservoir, so they certainly threw away enough water to fill it if there was some viable way to get it there, which there isn't.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 07:12 PM | Reply

..threw away enough water..

Well they can't really 'throw away' water.
If they dump it on the ground it's going to join the aquifer.
If they leave it in the river it's going to join the ocean.
The difference here is that we can get it back out of the aquifer.

I'd say, being not an expert of course- the more water in the aquifer the better. Probably what they're thinking.
I'm sure this is not a personal decision on the part of the president, he probably has advisors but his advisors are not (yet) beholden to the almond lobby.

#17 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 07:55 PM | Reply

The difference here is that we can get it back out of the aquifer.

That sounds expensive. How do you propose that? Given the intent was for this water to go to Los Angeles?

Probably what they're thinking.

They were not thinking. They were showboating. And ended up looking stupid.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 08:02 PM | Reply

@#11 ... I am wondering if this water could have been used to fill the empty reservoir that caused the firefighters to run dry. ...

Two questions ...

1) What empty reservoir caused the firefighters to run dry?

2) How might this water fill that reservoir?

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:03 PM | Reply

@#14 ... It looks like ...

Got a link?

thx.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:04 PM | Reply

Hendrik Willem van Loon wrote in The Story of Mankind that almonds and peaches are both from the same original plant, modified by man to accentuate the fruit in one case and the pit in the other. I wonder if it's true.
Just wanted to share a good read. The Story of Mankind is a good airplane book.

#21 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:05 PM | Reply

@#18 ... They were not thinking. They were showboating. And ended up looking stupid. ...

Apparently, much like the current alias you are replying to.

But, for now, I'll wait for links for that current alias to provide some substantiation of its assertions.


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:07 PM | Reply

#19

The Santa Ynez Reservoir

This reservoir was built to save Pacific Palisades. It was empty when the flames came
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#23 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:08 PM | Reply

1) What empty reservoir caused the firefighters to run dry?

The empty reservoir is the Santa Ynez. It's under repairs.

2) How might this water fill that reservoir?

It wouldn't. The Santa Ynez reservoir is 210 feet higher in elevation than the source reservoir. It's also 180 miles away, with a 4,600 foot mountain range between them.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 08:11 PM | Reply

#20

In a statement made after the January dam releases, local water officials said they would use the water for "limited irrigation demand and groundwater recharge."

-groundwater recharge

from the OP
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#25 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:13 PM | Reply

How does California get its water supply to cities like Los Angeles?

Los Angeles, California gets its water from the Los Angeles Aqueduct, the California Aqueduct, the Colorado River Aqueduct, local groundwater, and recycled water.
Aqueducts

Los Angeles Aqueduct: Carries water from the Eastern Sierra to Los Angeles

California Aqueduct: Carries water from the western Sierra Nevada to Los Angeles
Colorado River Aqueduct: Carries water from the Colorado River to Los Angeles

(all of these aqueducts are on the wrong side of the mountains)

Groundwater

Local groundwater basins are a source of water for Los Angeles
Recycled water is used to recharge groundwater basins

#26 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:18 PM | Reply

@#23 ... This reservoir was built to save Pacific Palisades. It was empty when the flames came ...

Yup.

It was empty for repairs, accoring to the article your current alias cites.

And, you're current alias' point is?

That reservoirs should not be repaired?

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:19 PM | Reply

@#25 ... In a statement made after the January dam releases, local water officials said they would use the water for "limited irrigation demand and groundwater recharge." ...

And that was beneficial to the LA fires ... how?


And, was that statement made after the inane release of water that may be critical to farmers who have relied on that water in a lame justification attempt?

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:22 PM | Reply

That reservoirs should not be repaired?

One of the issues about that was the clusterfook around the repair job. It was empty since February.

That said, it likely would not have made much difference anyway, given the volume of water that was being used. It's not that big of a reservoir.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 08:25 PM | Reply

Then there is this ...

When L.A. fires broke out, the 117-million gallon Santa Ynez Reservoir near Pacific Palisades was empty. Here's what we know. (January 2025)
www.cbsnews.com

... Could the reservoir have helped combat the fires?

The reservoir is intended to provide water storage "for domestic use and fire fighting purposes in the Pacific Palisades area" according to city documents.

DWP says that the agency is conducting its own investigation on its "water resiliency." But experts and officials agree that the extent of the wildfires would have put a strain on the city's water supply regardless of whether the Santa Ynez Reservoir had been full. ...


#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:28 PM | Reply

@#29 ... That said, it likely would not have made much difference anyway, given the volume of water that was being used. It's not that big of a reservoir. ...

That's a good observation.

When a house is burning down, I'd say that typically three or four firetrucks would respond.

They'd tap the hydrant and put pout the flame.

But what happens when dozens, hundreds?, of houses are burning.

Are there three or four firetrucks for each house?

And, are there enough hydrants to serve all those needed firetrucks should they materialize?


#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:31 PM | Reply

@#26 ... Local groundwater basins are a source of water for Los Angeles ...

But a couple of sentences earlier in your current alias' comment, it stated that aqueducts were the source of water for Los Angeles.

Please, make up your mind.


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:36 PM | Reply

Dude, you are being tiresome.

Here is another thought to confuse you further:
Let's say a river is interrupted on it's way to the sea by a dam. A lake forms, and the river continues on it's way, through the dam gates, after the lake fills up.
Now let's say you take some water from the lake and dump it on the ground a couple hundred miles away.

What happens to the lake? Does it fill back up, or just is it empty now??

#33 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:37 PM | Reply

#32
It's both you silly sealion

#34 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:40 PM | Reply

Look at Daddysfist trying to spin his child-raping hero's blunder into a positive. Lol

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-10 08:41 PM | Reply

And, are there enough hydrants to serve all those needed firetrucks should they materialize?

The problem was with the trunk line capacity. They were using water faster that the trunk line could move it. The highest 3 of 14 supply tanks ran dry.

Water usage was 4 times normal for 15 straight hours. Using a municipal water system to fight a wildfire is pretty futile.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To cross the Tehachapis into Southern California, a huge amount of water is raised some 2,000 feet at the powerful A. D. Edmonston Pumping Plant, making it the world's highest single water lift.

www.watereducation.org

#37 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:43 PM | Reply

@#32 Dude, you are being tiresome. ...

Why?

Because I commented on the apparent inherent contradiction of a comment your current alias posted?

#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:43 PM | Reply

Ridiculous blunder': Trump wades into California's water wars " and strikes some of his strongest supporters

www.theguardian.com

Another epic failure for Krasnov.

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-10 08:45 PM | Reply

Army Corps knew Trump's water release order in California's San Joaquin Valley was a waste

www.visaliatimesdelta.com

Billions of gallons wasted by the mush-brained felon.

#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-10 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because I commented on the apparent inherent contradiction of a comment your current alias posted?

#38

there is no inherent contradiction
all of the ways listed are how the wawa gets to el aay.

#41 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-10 08:48 PM | Reply

@#33 ... Here is another thought to confuse you further: ...

Yeah, I'm not the one in this conversation who seems to be confused.

But go on ...

... What happens to the lake? Does it fill back up, or just is it empty now?? ...

How does that relate to the ability of the LA water supply system to supply the water needed to fight the fire, even if the reservoir were full?

Or is that just a lame deflection attempt?

Stated differently, your comment should be more focused upon upgrading the LA area water systems to be able to supply the water the firefighters need to fight a fire when hundreds, thousands?, of house fires occur. And then there becomes the question ... how about hiring enougn firefighters and buying enoungh firetrucks to fight thpse thosands of homes burning.

And, as a corollary, would LA be willing to pay for that cost?

#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:50 PM | Reply

@#36 ... Water usage was 4 times normal for 15 straight hours. Using a municipal water system to fight a wildfire is pretty futile. ...

Yup.

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:52 PM | Reply

And, as a corollary, would LA be willing to pay for that cost?

A good question, but not relevant to these idiots dumping a bunch of reservoir water out in the desert.

#44 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 08:53 PM | Reply

@#37 .. .To cross the Tehachapis into Southern California, a huge amount of water is raised some 2,000 feet at the powerful A. D. Edmonston Pumping Plant, making it the world's highest single water lift. ..

A cool factoid, but quite irrelevant to the dscussion.


#45 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:53 PM | Reply

@#41 ... all of the ways listed are how the wawa gets to el aay. ...

To the "el aay" fire hydrants?

That is not what your current alias has shown.

#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 08:55 PM | Reply

Itchypossum is all wet. Pay him no mind.

#47 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-10 08:58 PM | Reply

@#47 ... Itchypossum is all wet. ...

So, I'm not the only one who seems to notice that.


#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 09:17 PM | Reply

Trump's a ------- Idiot. --------------- is a ------- ------.

#49 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-10 09:36 PM | Reply

Trump's a ------- Idiot.

That is the root cause of this water spill.

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-10 09:41 PM | Reply

Concur

#51 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-10 09:49 PM | Reply

Listen here -------------------------.

Shut the ---- up. You're a ------- clueless troll clown. ---- off.

#52 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-10 09:53 PM | Reply

@#52

You need to be a whole lot more specific of the targets of your ad hominem attacks.

Jus' sayin'

#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-10 10:09 PM | Reply

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