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New Docs Get Schooled in Old Diseases as Vax Rates Fall
Rush University Medical Center in Chicago is adding a new twist to its curriculum for medical students and residents, using AI tools and learning modules to teach how to more quickly identify measles rashes on different skin tones.
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... Why it matters: It's another reminder that diseases once thought to have been eradicated are showing up with increased frequency in clinics and ERs, posing challenges for younger physicians and health workers who thought they were relegated to history. - - - Lingering vaccine hesitancy and distrust of the medical establishment stoked by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are leading some health systems to add training on old scourges that were practically wiped out by immunization campaigns and increased surveillance. "You're taught these things in medical school, and you're taught from a very academic perspective with the sense of measles was eradicated in 2000," said Nicholas Cozzi, EMS medical director at Rush. - - - "Now we're having a resurgence, the highest in 25 years, and you might have not reviewed that since the first year of medical school," he added. "It's a new paradigm and a new normal that we have to adapt to." The big picture: The focus is particularly acute on childhood illnesses such as measles, chicken pox, invasive strep pneumoniae and pertussis, experts told Axios. ...
- - - Lingering vaccine hesitancy and distrust of the medical establishment stoked by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are leading some health systems to add training on old scourges that were practically wiped out by immunization campaigns and increased surveillance.
"You're taught these things in medical school, and you're taught from a very academic perspective with the sense of measles was eradicated in 2000," said Nicholas Cozzi, EMS medical director at Rush.
- - - "Now we're having a resurgence, the highest in 25 years, and you might have not reviewed that since the first year of medical school," he added. "It's a new paradigm and a new normal that we have to adapt to."
The big picture: The focus is particularly acute on childhood illnesses such as measles, chicken pox, invasive strep pneumoniae and pertussis, experts told Axios. ...
#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-30 02:15 PM | Reply
I think RFK Jr. needs some old-fashioned Mayan (or was it Incan?) trepination. The Europeans didn't catch up for centuries.
#2 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-07-01 07:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
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@#2 ... I think RFK Jr. needs some old-fashioned Mayan (or was it Incan?) trepination. ...
OK, you sent me to my medical dictionary for trepanation.
Wow.
Just wow.
#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-01 10:49 PM | Reply
But more to the point of the thread ...
Maybe Sec Kennedy needs to look more at scientific evidence instead of disproved conspiracy theories to set his policies?
Just a thought ...
#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-01 11:40 PM | Reply
measles
Congratulations, Republicans. You Built That!
#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-01 11:40 PM | Reply
@#5 ... measles
Congratulations, Republicans. You Built That! ...
The old anti-vax ~movement~ was not strictly Republican.
From what I remember, it was bi-partisan, sucking in ignorami from both parties.
#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-01 11:58 PM | Reply
"The old anti-vax ~movement~ was not strictly Republican"
Yeah the old Republican Party freed the slaves too.
Got anything from this century?
#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-02 12:54 AM | Reply
The National Center for Biotechnology Information www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
... Anti-vax: the history of a scientific problem The term Anti-vax' is one of the most notable recent additions to the Oxford English Dictionary,1 even though resistance to immunization is not a new fact. It always existed even before the development of the first vaccine. Kalichman et al.2 offer a critical analysis on vaccine mistrust discussing the historical public perceptions and concerns about vaccines prior and after COVID-19. It is important to note that the anti-vaccination movement dates back to 1796 when the English doctor Edward Jenner introduced the smallpox vaccine.3 This vaccine reduced the number of deaths caused by smallpox and in 1979 the disease was officially eradicated. Looking into the vaccine history timeline, the term anti-vax was initially used in the early 1800s to describe the smallpox vaccine hesitancy. In fact, the origin of the word vaccine comes from the Latin word vacca"in English cow. During this time, cowpox matter was used to produce an immune response against the deadly smallpox disease. Despite the worldwide successful vaccine history, several political parties and religious groups joined the anti-vaccination movement challenging the scientific credibility of the vaccines mainly criticizing its origins. Although COVID-19 vaccine made real advancements saving countless lives, there are still many key counter factors endangering collective immunization. Understanding human behaviors will better prepare us to respond effectively to the next future epidemics and/or pandemics.3 Governments and science will continue to play critical roles supporting the development of groundbreaking research, collaborating to advance the production and the easy access and distribution of vaccines. Considering the history of humanity, misconceptions about immunizations will remain as a threat to global health; regardless the innumerous empirical evidence confirming the efficacy of the vaccines.4 ...
The term Anti-vax' is one of the most notable recent additions to the Oxford English Dictionary,1 even though resistance to immunization is not a new fact. It always existed even before the development of the first vaccine. Kalichman et al.2 offer a critical analysis on vaccine mistrust discussing the historical public perceptions and concerns about vaccines prior and after COVID-19. It is important to note that the anti-vaccination movement dates back to 1796 when the English doctor Edward Jenner introduced the smallpox vaccine.3 This vaccine reduced the number of deaths caused by smallpox and in 1979 the disease was officially eradicated. Looking into the vaccine history timeline, the term anti-vax was initially used in the early 1800s to describe the smallpox vaccine hesitancy. In fact, the origin of the word vaccine comes from the Latin word vacca"in English cow. During this time, cowpox matter was used to produce an immune response against the deadly smallpox disease. Despite the worldwide successful vaccine history, several political parties and religious groups joined the anti-vaccination movement challenging the scientific credibility of the vaccines mainly criticizing its origins.
Although COVID-19 vaccine made real advancements saving countless lives, there are still many key counter factors endangering collective immunization. Understanding human behaviors will better prepare us to respond effectively to the next future epidemics and/or pandemics.3 Governments and science will continue to play critical roles supporting the development of groundbreaking research, collaborating to advance the production and the easy access and distribution of vaccines. Considering the history of humanity, misconceptions about immunizations will remain as a threat to global health; regardless the innumerous empirical evidence confirming the efficacy of the vaccines.4 ...
#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-02 01:14 AM | Reply
@#7
So, yeah, your view that "anti-vax" is old may be valid, or not.
It seems to have lived into the COVID era, and beyond into the Sec Kennedy era.
So, what's yer point?
#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-02 01:19 AM | Reply
Wellll... what comes around goes around...
I'm a mid-century kid who had almost all the "childhood diseases" except polio. My kids didn't have any of them... nor did my grandson.
Yet another social experiment is about to unfold! Republicl0wn regressive agenda and all that...
Eliminating "childhood diseases" skewed life expectancy stats... changed our expectations
The ability to raise a healthy child into adulthood is commonplace now. We take so much for granted.
...perhaps it's for the best... have a few whither on the vine...
Makes me wonder... Ya think docs will make house calls again?
#10 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-02 04:02 AM | Reply
What's the over / under on number of days before there is widespread brandishing of firearms in hospital ER wards, when farmers, gun freaks and other MAGA kooks show up demanding treatment for the next pandemic, after having decided that vaccines are bad? I'll say 167, which gets us to mid-December, the incubation period after Thanksgiving weekend. Clip and save...
#11 | Posted by catdog at 2025-07-02 08:19 AM | Reply
Catdog, what is the thresh hold for number of attacks. Assaults on nurses and staff occur daily. I have heard of anything brewing that might breakout in a pandemic that soon, but Covid went from 'it will go away' to a panic in 60 days.
#12 | Posted by mattm at 2025-07-02 09:14 AM | Reply
The fact that the "advisory panel" kept the season flu vaxx recommendation in place (despite the stupidity in the thimerosal recommendation) leaves me hope they won't pull FDA approval for any of the pediatric schedule vaccines.
But we'll have to see.
#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-02 10:48 AM | Reply
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