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Monday, July 21, 2025

A new LinkedIn report highlights 25 metro areas in the United States where job growth, economic momentum, and quality of life are drawing waves of new talent ...

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... The report illustrates how the geography of opportunity in the U.S. is shifting.

No longer limited to the traditional powerhouses on the coasts, economic growth is now surging in smaller metros -- many of them with vibrant downtowns, growing universities, or targeted infrastructure investments.

This trend also has major implications for housing markets, urban planning, and the future of remote and hybrid work. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-20 12:29 PM | Reply

@#1 ... No longer limited to the traditional powerhouses on the coasts, economic growth is now surging in smaller metros ...

Why might that be?


Has ~remote work~ taken over?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-21 10:03 PM | Reply

Costal communities are expensive. So people are moving to cheaper communities.

But the feed back is they're bored out of their minds and have started smoking meth to pass the time.

Also, the food is mostly brown and deep fried.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-21 10:12 PM | Reply

@#3 .. Costal communities are expensive. So people are moving to cheaper communities. ...

That seems to be the impetus.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-21 11:10 PM | Reply

Do you people even understand English?

"25 metro areas in the United States where job growth ..."

Its growing because companies are moving there.

Imagine paying your employees more of your revenue. For instance I pay > $125,000 a year in income tax. The last dollars are taxed at 47%

Now imagine a company moves and has the same revenues, but now they can pay the employee less, but the employee takes more home, and the company is saving money.

Win-Win to move this is whats happening.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-22 12:06 AM | Reply

@#3 ... Costal communities are expensive. So people are moving to cheaper communities. ...

Not just people, but companies.

Companies moving to less-expensive areas.

Gee, when has that ever happened previously?

Maybe the migration of companies from NYC to CT in the 70's?

So, the real thing that seems to be new with this current migration seems to be, as the headline states, the destination.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-22 12:22 AM | Reply

Costal communities are expensive. So people are moving to cheaper communities.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack

Coastal communities are full. Not exactly surprising.

Houses are so expensive in LA because people will pay for them.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-22 02:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Those income to housing cost comparisons are awful. All of them.

home prices 10 times average income?

Absolutely insane. No way.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-22 08:27 AM | Reply

home prices 10 times average income?
Absolutely insane.

^
Fifty years of Trickle Down will do that to a nation.
Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

Consider the 449 companies in the S&P 500 index that were publicly listed from 2003 through 2012. During that period those companies used 54% of their earnings"a total of $2.4 trillion"to buy back their own stock, almost all through purchases on the open market. Dividends absorbed an additional 37% of their earnings. That left very little for investments in productive capabilities or higher incomes for employees.
(And that was written in 2014)
hbr.org

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-22 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

In fact, when I was a couple years out of school (mid 90s) and I made a whopping $37K I decided to buy a house for $60K. I didn't feel comfortable making the mortgage payment without a roommate to pay me rent.

7 years later (2002) I'm buying a $267K home with $100K downpayment. I was nervous as hell with a $167K mortgage even though I was making $100K.

those ratios are 1.5 to 2.5 times income. Now, we're celebrating 10?

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-22 09:00 AM | Reply

"those ratios are 1.5 to 2.5 times income. Now, we're celebrating 10?"

It's been this way for about ten years now.
The common advice given to young people is if they want to own a home all they need to do is lay off the Starbucks and the Avocado Toast.

Also, it looks like those are true average home prices, not median.
For example, the article has Grand Rapids MI "average" home price at around $650K.
But Zillow has the median at around $300,000.
Now, $65K salary is still a bit light for a $300,000 home.
But it's a lot more achievable compared to $650K.
Just have to cut back on the Starbucks and Avocado Toast!

But you also have to figure, it's not the people with median incomes who can afford to move. It's people who are doing well. As it says for Grand Rapids, "the city is drawing in a wave of young professionals." Not a wave of mid-career forklift operators and pet groomers.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-22 09:11 AM | Reply

When we bought this house it was about 3x income but interest rates were stupid low so with 20% down and paying cash for closing costs the payment was only 20% of income.

Now this house would sell for at least 6x our income and thats with about a 30% increase in income. Add on the higher interest rate and if we bought today our mortgage would be close to 50% of the new higher income. That's assuming we could come up with about 70k more to close than we did when we bought, if not add some PMI and we get a payment well over 50% of our income (aka. no mortgage since no company is loaning a +50% debt to income loan)

Yes I am in one of the 25 cities in the article.

Couple of things that support the insane price growth. RE here is still only middle/high middle so we get people moving from NY/CA etc who have tons of equity to throw at property. Also those same people are making 2-3x the "average" income in the area. So lots of people moving in who can afford it but at the cost to a lot of people who live here who have gone from a low middle/middle COLA to a middle/high middle COLA without changing location. Heck our property taxes an insurance are now equal to my mortgage payment so not even sure how long I'll last here.

We are looking at a few places an hour out of town where we could move and have no house payment but I worry how long before high property values chase out even an hour away.

#12 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-07-22 09:25 AM | Reply

"Now this house would sell for at least 6x our income "

Sounds good but it's a trap. Because to move up, your next house will cost even more than 6x your income.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-22 09:27 AM | Reply

#13

Fortunately we are in the moving down stage of life but even so we are looking at 60-90 min away.

#14 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-07-22 09:28 AM | Reply

I should also add that the value is the land so even if we wanted to down size the house a smaller house in the same area will cost the same as ours, assuming I could grab one before a developer does and tears down the house to put up a McMansion for 12x our income.

#15 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-07-22 09:31 AM | Reply

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