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Tuesday, July 14, 2026

California voters will decide in November whether politicians can receive taxpayer-funded campaign money under a ballot measure that would repeal the state's decades-old ban on public financing. Proposition 4, titled the Allow Public Financing of Election Campaigns measure, will appear on the Nov. 3 statewide ballot. If approved, the measure would allow local governments across California to establish programs that use taxpayer dollars to finance political campaigns, repealing the ban established in 1988 by Proposition 73, which prohibited the use of public funds for election campaigns. Critics say the proposal would force taxpayers to subsidize political campaigns at a time when many Californians are struggling with affordability. Several California cities, including Los Angeles, Long Beach, San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley, already operate campaign financing programs,

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Who cares? Nazi trillionaires write checks all the time.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-07-14 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It pays for everything else ... so why not ...

In practice though this of course would be withheld if the governor of the State didn't like you.

Similar to prop36 that passed to spend money to nail repeat retail theft offenders ... but no ...

"Californians overwhelmingly passed Prop 36 to crack down on repeat retail theft and the state's deadly drug crisis while delivering proven, court-supervised treatment. Yet Governor Newsom has again turned his back, denying communities across the state the resources they need to enforce the law and save lives. With their hands tied by a lack of funding, law enforcement, prosecutors, and probation officers cannot fully hold offenders accountable or steer them into the treatment they desperately need.

Proposition 36 is working where it's funded: it reduces repeat crime, breaks the cycle of addiction, and helps people reclaim their lives and families. Counties are ready to implement real change that voters demanded with the law's passage " but they cannot succeed without the state's full commitment. The voters spoke loud and clear. It's time for Governor Newsom and the state to stop defying the will of the people and fully fund Proposition 36."
www.cpoc.org

California's doesn't have a democracy.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-14 08:27 PM | Reply

---- off ------

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-07-14 09:02 PM | Reply

Who cares?

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-07-14 07:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not you --- raetards..

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-14 09:40 PM | Reply


Not you --- raetards..
#4 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

he doesn't pay taxes, he's a net drain on his fellow man.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-07-14 09:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is this a bad time to point out who actually pays taxes?

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-14 09:53 PM | Reply

only the truly middle class and the wealthy pay taxes.... The divide is growing but the poor pay nothing

#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-14 09:56 PM | Reply

And the wealthy are leaving that ---------..

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-14 09:57 PM | Reply

"the poor pay nothing"

Only if you're cherry-picking which taxes count, and which (higher) taxes don't.

Why are you pretending sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes don't exist?!?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-14 11:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why are you pretending sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes don't exist?!?

That's what Splitters do.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-07-14 11:45 PM | Reply

the poor pay nothing
#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Sales taxes, Trump tariffs, gas taxes, all the little taxes on your cell phone bill, those don't exist in your world...

You really just don't think at all before you speak. Or after!

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-15 01:28 PM | Reply

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-15 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, look at this bitch

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-15 10:33 PM | Reply

----- personel.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-15 10:33 PM | Reply

-Why are you pretending sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, and payroll taxes don't exist?!?

My guess is to piss you off.

Because there aren't any people here who don't know that.

And the central point was made.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-15 10:41 PM | Reply

The poor don't pay taxes of any significance. Even if they pay little in taxes, it's offset by things like earned income credit and different forms of government assistance.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-07-16 11:55 AM | Reply

"The poor don't pay taxes of any significance."

Rigger Please!

It is significant to them.

Let's see if I can dumb it down for you.

Think about an $5 item with a 10% sales tax. That $.050 tax is a tiny fraction of a wealthy person's income. But to someone living in poverty, that same $.050 takes a much larger bite out of their daily budget.

Sales and Excise Taxes: Taxes added to daily items like clothes, food, and medicine.

Payroll Taxes: Taxes taken directly from paychecks to fund Social Security and Medicare. Even low-wage workers pay this flat 7.65% rate on every dollar they earn.

Property Taxes: example of an indirect tax ... Renters don't pay this directly, but landlords include property taxes in the rent price.

Gas Taxes: A flat fee added to every gallon of gas, which takes a larger share of a tight budget.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-07-16 12:06 PM | Reply

" The poor don't pay taxes of any significance."

Only if YOU get to choose which taxes count, and which taxes don't.

It's intellectually dishonest. Especially when you consider the fact roughly 70% of workers pay more in payroll taxes over their lifetime than they do in income taxes.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 12:24 PM | Reply

" Even if they pay little in taxes, it's offset by things like earned income credit"

EIC is due to having kids. You'd have to earn minimum wage and work only half-time to qualify without a kid. IOW, a four-figure income.

Also, when we were kids, if someone was on EIC (called welfare back then) the transaction wasn't on form 1040. So the folks back then were counted as "paying taxes", even if they got 100 bucks a month because they had three kids.

That same Family today is scored as "not paying taxes". In other words, we've moved the goal posts by putting all kinds of child-rearing subsidies onto the 1040. The EIC, CTC, ACTC, AOC, CCC, etc. All for the specific reason of passing the tax break on Wednesday, and complaining that people "don't pay taxes" on Thursday.

They expected people to fall for it ... and you did.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 12:37 PM | Reply

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You could explain this to everyone in the country and it wouldn't matter. Knowing this is irrelevant.

You might get someone to change the term "no taxes" to "payroll, sales, property taxes" but they'll still have the same opinion.

And for the reason you cited. It's about getting folks to bitch about it.

Pretty smart move, IMO. both sides vote for it and 1 side gets to distance themselves from it and marginalize the hell out of those folks to gin up votes...

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-16 12:43 PM | Reply

I'd support this with the following rules.
All funding stopped if TV - radio ads start more than 30 days before election day / more than X per day / X per week...etc....and that includes pacs.

#20 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-16 12:48 PM | Reply

Oh yeah.... AND NEVER interrupt my shows....

Price is right reruns / match game reruns and Hallmark Christmas movies.... lol

#21 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-07-16 12:55 PM | Reply

"Pretty smart move, IMO"

What a riot.

You're cheering on intellectual dishonesty, for the sole purpose of ginning up votes.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 01:11 PM | Reply

-You're cheering on intellectual dishonesty

No, I'm not cheering it on. I'm calling it clever....probably should have said "deceptively clever".

is that better?

Or would you just prefer me to cheer it on so you can complain to me?

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-16 01:15 PM | Reply

"Or would you just prefer me to cheer it on so you can complain to me?"

Mainly, I'm wondering why intellectual dishonesty doesn't piss YOU off.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 01:19 PM | Reply

LOL....always with the "why can't you be mad like me" --------

When people aren't accusing me of being mad enough, they're literally accusing me of losing my ----.

every one of you belong in an asylum.

I see that tactic for what it is. It doesn't fool me and I don't support candidates who use that tactic. I don't "fall for it". But that's not good enough for you.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what else I can do to provide you with the comfort you so desire from me.

I don't need you to be happy or sad or angry or anything. I don't "wonder" anything regarding your emotions.

You are free to feel any way you want....with zero judgement from me.

But that's the progressive/liberal in me talking. I won't judge you for how you feel.

Apparently you aren't that liberal or progressive. In some ways you're a bit of an authoritarian.

That is if you really need to judge my emotions and wonder why they aren't what you think they should be.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-16 01:27 PM | Reply

"why can't you be mad like me"

More like "Why can't you stand up to obvious, purposeful bullllschittt?"

Instead, you stay silent on the sidelines, or worse: cheer it on.

"In some ways you're a bit of an authoritarian."

When I know the truth, and debunk the lie?!? Guilty as charged, Your Honor.

Which reminds me...I have an old cartoon of a guy, typing furiously on a laptop and yelling, I can't come to bed yet, honey...someone is wrong on the internet!!!

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 01:38 PM | Reply

"Why can't you stand up to obvious, purposeful bullllschittt?"

What do you mean? You mean on this blog? What are you talking about? Are you talking about yourself? That I need to support you more when you're arguing with someone like Lft?

Because in the real world, I stand up to it by not voting for it. Not donating to it, not publicly endorsing it.

short of running for office myself, that's the action you'll get from me.

But it's still not enough for you. Man, I knew I was this important to you but I didn't think you'd outright admit it.

"stay silent on the sidelines" Again.....here? on this site? You want me to stick up for you?

I can't argue for everyone here all the time on every issue. The fact that I don't help you doesn't mean I disagree with you. Is that what you think? My silence equals agreement with the other side of the argument?

I'm sorry......but that's simply not true.

"debunk the lie"

except....I'm not telling any lies. I'm not spreading misinformation. You're taking issue with me over a perceived lack of emotion.

Do you even realize that's your issue?

Don't you think that's just a little bit silly?

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-16 01:46 PM | Reply

One thing I've noticed about you Danforth is that you're selective on what issues you'll engage in.

The issue matters to you, more than who's posting. Most others here focus on the who more than the what.

An example would be Bellringer....who could talk about a tupperware party and most everyone would jump all over it. The issue is irrelevant.

But you're not like that. The subject matter drives you. I'm sure you already know this.

You watch me go at it with someone and you won't jump in. My guess is that the issue doesn't matter to you.

You know what your "staying on the sidelines" equates to me?

Absolutely nothing. I don't interpret that silence to mean anything or have any significance. I don't wonder for a second whether or not you agree or not with my position.

I hope what I'm what I saying here makes some sense.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2026-07-16 01:52 PM | Reply

"What do you mean? You mean on this blog?"

Yeah.

"But it's still not enough for you."

Sure it is. It'd be plenty if you'd bring your expertise to the table, like when the topic is health insurance premiums. I've tried to point out, even if rates stay the same, your premiums go up each year. Why? Because you're a different client than that guy a year ago; he was a year younger!

Last time I did that, you were on the thread, and I remember thinking you'd chime it.

"except....I'm not telling any lies. I'm not spreading misinformation."

Exactly. You're choosing to remain silent, in the face of purposeful lies.

"Do you even realize that's your issue?"

The tax stuff? Or the truth stuff?

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-07-16 01:58 PM | Reply

An example would be Bellringer....who could talk about a tupperware party
#28 | Posted by eberly

That's not a good example.
He never talks about anything related to real life, because he's ashamed how it would reveal his old identity as JeffJ.
He only posts pro-Trump content. So unless Trump did something related to Tupperware, what you're saying would simply never happen.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-07-16 05:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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