It must make you happy that they're forced to hide their identities in the closet.
#38 | Posted by sentinel

They don't hide their identities in the closet.
They're openly Hindu, whatever.
Their identify isn't so fragile that it shatters under the weight of cultural sensitivity.

Aren't you one of those doofuses who says immigrants should assimilate? Now you're saying they're being forced to hide their true identity in the closet. Pick one.

"that said, I call BS on this article."

Don't trust the Trump Government numbers?

Trump (DOGE) targeted black women with their government cuts, this is well known by people who bother to know things about the country they live in.

"I admit they are at fault"

They murdered that man like Nazis in the streets of Poland.

"I admit they are at fault"

The entire mission is to terrorize immigrants and Americans who are fresh off the boat from Somalia, and any others they happen to feel like harassing.

Why can't you just address that?

The whole reason ICE is there, is for things like this, to happen.

"You will do or say anything to avoid the fact that there was an AD"

I'm not convinced there was, or there wasn't.

I don't think it's particularly germane, since the intervention and escalation by the police caused the circumstances that resulted in the alleged accidental discharge.

DHS reports two agents fired their weapons, could that second cop's weapon have been the discharge you're 100% sure was an accidental discharge?

"You will do or say anything to avoid the fact that there was an AD and it very likely contributed to the shooting."

ICE being in Minnesota in the first place is the #1 contributing factor to this shooting.
ICE strongarm tactics is what caused all of this to happen.
All of it.

"Your claim requires ignoring what MLK actually said and believed."

You'll have a hard time finding too many things MLK said that I can't agree with.

Please proceed, Governor.

"loving one another, taking care of the poor, the hungry, those in prison, immigrants, and strangers."

This accounts for about 90% of what Jesus talked about.
Jesus teaches us to welcome foreigners and immigrants and refugees and simply treat them as human beings.

It's quite surprising to me how that's too big an ask for some people.
I feel like I fundamentally can't understand how someone thinks that's just a bad thing to do.
I can see not doing it yourself, and being happy there's other people doing these good works. Lord knows I'm not visiting prisoners to help them become better people.

But I can't understand being angry that we are helping those in need.
I can understand being angry at the people who take advantage of our kindness. Like the Somali Daycare fraud that we don't hear about now that ICE is routinely killing people and still not releasing the Epstein Files. You can be mad about that, but saying we're putting an end to all Federal daycare spending because of one fraud has the effect of punishing children for something they had no control over. When your solution to a crime is to harm children, you are a bad person.

What I can't quite understand is how you Republicans get so burned by other people's kindness towards each other, that you want to smash it.

"MLK was far closer to Jesus than modern liberals are now."

MLK is pretty much where modern liberals are now. A world more built on meritocracy than wealth, universal basic income, and strong protection of civil rights in civil society.

When MLK was assassinated, only the first third of his dream had even sprouted from seed. Universal Basic Income has taken on widespread support as more and more people get left behind in this economy. Getting left behind used to be a hallmark of segregation. Now, whites are getting left behind like blacks were, and they begin to understand what MLK was talking about beyond mere on-paper equality between the races.

Building a strong civil rights society takes financial investment, and too many rich people would rather live a little richer in a shitty world, knowing they can mostly insulate themselves with their bit of extra wealth.

"But Jesus would be appalled by the way liberalism has evolved today."

You think he'd be more on the Conservative side, with the flying planes into buildings, and ethnically cleansing the land of his birth?

You sound like you grew up in a Sundown Town and you liked it.

"cute little narrative you constructed of the evil assassins twirling their snidely whiplash mustaches "

See, you're forcing yourself to live in a cartoon world.
You can't take this seriously.

Here in the real world, they say "Fucking Bitch" after they shoot her in the face.
That's a cute little narrative Angry White Men like you created.
For some reason, you're telling us we're getting you guys all wrong.

The ICE agent telling the civilians following them around
"Have y'all not learned from the past couple of days?"

That's the narrative, cop.

Are you man enough to talk about it?

"looking for reasons to kill people"

Have you been retired for like 20 years, and have no idea what's actually going on?

Is that why you don't realize how stupid you sound, to actually be a cop, and saying ICE isn't looking for excuses to escalate violence against civilians who get in their way?

That is literally what they are instructed to do.
And this is the training from ten years ago.
Not the new stuff they're getting from IDF and Stephen Miller!
Link from 2016:

It also shifts some blame from the shooters to the disarming agent and to sig.
#38 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

Why was a legally armed man being disarmed in the first place?

What's your justification for denying his rights?

"caused the agents to believe they were under fire."

Did the report of the incoming fire originate in the direction of the person they killed?

Remember when the acorn landed on the cop car, so he just started blasting? That's essentially what you're saying happened here.

"The gin fired on its own"

When?
Was someone touching it, if so, who?

"Even going to the wind did the non-slave owning majority of families dirty."

Maybe you shouldn't look to romance movies for your accurate representation of history?

"Like seeing and hearing the gun fire right when it's removed."

So ICE discharged his weapon, then killed him for it?

"I'm sorry he's dead."

No, you're not sorry he's dead.
You spent this whole thread saying he rightfully deserves to be dead.

"Neither of them had any business being there in the first place."

Why don't we have any business being in public at the donut shop where we live?

But man the agent that disarmed him should have yelled "gun secure!" It's just as important to announce that as it is to tell everyone there is a gun.
#19 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

Not if you're looking to establish a lethal force justification so you can kill some bitch protester.

You understand ICE hates protesters, right? Can you acknowledge that?

"spontaneous discharge"

Do we actually have ballistics evidence supporting the claim that his gun discharged in any capacity?

Bcause I tend to think if this actually happened, that evidence would be on the front page of WhiteHouse.gov. Don't you?