Saturday, July 20, 2024

Florida OKs False Statement to Print Next to Pro-Choice Ballot Measure

A Florida administrative committee decided earlier this week on a financial impact statement that must appear alongside Amendment 4 on ballots. ... The supposedly nonpartisan committee that drafted it included an economist from the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation, the group behind Project 2025.

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And the lie factory will be working overtime soon.

#1 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-07-20 03:15 PM

It's Floriduh.

That state is fkkked.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-20 03:59 PM

Republicans are scum

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-20 04:37 PM

Legalizing misinformation on the actual fnkcin' ballot?

You Florida Republicans are absolute filth.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-07-20 04:53 PM

Gracie/karen/befuddled...

So yeah.

No surprise.

#5 | Posted by billy_boy at 2024-07-20 09:36 PM

The left sure does love and live to whine.

#6 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-07-20 11:15 PM

The right sure does love to be lied to.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-20 11:23 PM

LOL now tell me how you believe men can magically transform into women Mr. "I don't like getting lied to"

#8 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-07-21 04:16 AM

m.youtube.com

Dr Hotez on the vaccine that doesn't work. Get your boosters, over and over and over again and you too can get COVID just like Joe Biden Mr "I don't like getting lied to" ---------

#9 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-07-21 04:21 AM

I see "THEBULL" doesn't understand vaccinations and how they work.
I see "THEBULL" lies just like the lying liars that "THEBULL" unquestioningly listens to.

Why doesn't the statement on the possible cost contain the cost of taking care of results of forced birth? The increased maternal mortality? The increase Medicaid costs? The cost of poverty? The cost of infant mortality rates increasing? Why do the Republicans have to LIE LIE LIE all the time?

Because what they stand for no one but them wants. No sane country, no sane people want what they have to offer so they LIE about WHY and WHAT they are for.

Time to beat the shht out of them at the ballot box. Send them packing. Back into the woodwork.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-21 07:50 AM

Thrilled to death that my first vote as a Floridian will be for this amendment.

And Republicans are scum.

#11 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-07-21 08:25 AM

Thebull is a prime example of someone who's too stupid to know how stupid they are.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-21 08:44 AM

What is the actual wording of the financial statement?

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-21 09:34 AM

Gee. I don't know. Oh wait! Let me click the article link. Looking... looking...

Oh here it is - in italics and indented in the middle of the story, the full text.

Wow that was difficult to find. /s

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-21 09:54 AM

The text that will appear on the ballot.

You're saying that entire part will appear on the ballot?

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-21 10:19 AM

It seemed like such a long statement I wasn't sure it wasn't commentary on the statement in addition to the actual statement.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-21 10:26 AM

It's ridiculous.
This is uncharted territory. The law to require financial impact for Florida amendments is a total rewrite for 2024 after the original was repealed in 2020. Before we didn't see the information on the ballot, just the amendment.

Now the new law states:
3. If the financial impact statement estimates an indeterminate financial impact or if the members of the Financial Impact Estimating Conference are unable to agree on the statement required by this subsection, the ballot must include the statement required by s. 101.161(1)(d).

edr.state.fl.us (site is not secure. Another example of how well run Florida's state government is).

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-21 10:45 AM

That whole section on what triggers it being included on the ballot is ridiculous to parse. You being in insurance may not find it nearly as stupid as me.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-21 10:50 AM

It's ridiculous because it relies on the voter being able to comprehend that statement. It's long and uses words many won't understand

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-21 10:59 AM

" the vaccine that doesn't work."

Tell us you flunked science, without using those specific words.

And while you're there, please tell us what "news" outlet told you a vaccine "doesn't work" if one vaccinated person catches Covid.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-21 11:41 AM

Putting that lie on the ballot should be taken to court.
The dishonest liRs opposed to the Amendment have written a letter laying out the ridiculous arguments about the effect the amendment would have on cghe Florida economy our local ABC Neaa. Affiliate has a Sunday show ahich covers only Florida issuezs and on it ghey had State Senator Book discussing it and laughing at the jtter nonsesnss fhey are pushing. One point especially was that legal abortion would reduce population growth and rhereby rexducs the state GDP which is so utterly ridiculous that they were all laughing about it on the show. Ron Desantis isn't just a Nazi he's also a bumbling clown and an embarrassment. To the state!

#21 | Posted by danni at 2024-07-21 05:56 PM

And the lie factory will be working overtime soon.

The lie factory has been running non-stop 24/7 since 1979 for the GOP.

These asshats wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass.

Their voters don't care because faux noise confirms their bias.

#22 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-22 10:32 AM

Former Florida resident here (1980s):
tell me again what a great state the political cesspool of Floriduh is.
I wouldn't live there now for a million dollars a year salary.

#23 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-07-22 12:05 PM

It's impossible to win the war of ideas when one side is just allowed to make ----- up

#24 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-07-22 01:29 PM

"It's impossible to win the war of ideas"

Then stop trying.

Win elections.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-22 02:06 PM

Same thing.

#26 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-07-22 02:19 PM

26

Can you make a distinction between idealism and realism?

Most of society makes a distinction there.

And that distinction is why I think there's a difference between winning a war of ideas and winning an election

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-22 02:41 PM

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