Thursday, September 12, 2024

Trump's Repetitive Speech Is a Bad Sign

Richard A. Friedman: Just to be clear: Although I am a psychiatrist, I am not offering any specific medical diagnoses for any public figure ... But I watched the debate with particular attention to the candidates' vocabulary, verbal and logical coherence, and ability to adapt to new topics - all signs of a healthy brain. Donald Trump's expressions of [certain] tendencies were alarming. He displayed some striking, if familiar, patterns that are commonly seen among people in cognitive decline.

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Much of the time, following Trump's train of thought was difficult, if not impossible. In response to a question from the moderator David Muir about whether he regretted anything he'd done during the January 6 insurrection, Trump said:

I have said "blood bash - bath." It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business. That was where bloodbath was. Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked. Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Jesse - all of these people, they covered it. If they go an extra sentence, they will see it was perfect. It was debunked in almost every newspaper. But they still bring it up, just like they bring 2025 up. They bring all of this stuff up. I ask you this: You talk about the Capitol. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border? How come she's not doing anything - and I'll tell you what I would do. And I would be very proud to do it.

Evading the question is an age-old debate-winning tactic. But Trump's response seems to go beyond evasion. It is both tangential, in that it is completely irrelevant to the question, and circumstantial, in that it is rambling and never gets to a point. Circumstantial and tangential speech can indicate a fundamental problem with an underlying cognitive process, such as logical and goal-oriented thinking. Did Trump realize that his answer was neither germane to the question nor logical?

Trump's speech during the debate was repetitive not only in form but also in content. In psychiatry, the tendency to conspicuously and rigidly repeat a thought beyond the point of relevance, called "perseverance," is known to be correlated with a variety of clinical disorders, including those involving a loss of cognitive reserve.

If a patient presented to me with the verbal incoherence, tangential thinking, and repetitive speech that Trump now regularly demonstrates, I would almost certainly refer them for a rigorous neuropsychiatric evaluation to rule out a cognitive illness. A condition such as vascular dementia or Alzheimer's disease would not be out of the ordinary for a 78-year-old. Only careful medical examination can establish whether someone indeed has a diagnosable illness - simply observing Trump, or anyone else, from afar is not enough. For those who do have such diseases or conditions, several treatments and services exist to help them and their loved ones cope with their decline. But that does not mean any of them would be qualified to serve as commander in chief.

Based on the above, I believe that Trump does understand his current limitations in his ability to comfortably pivot effectively in a rapid debate format. If this remote yet professionally informed diagnosis is anywhere close to the truth, Trump will avoid another debate with Harris lest his decline might become undeniable to even his closest and staunchest supporters.

The tables regarding Biden and Trump have taken quite the dramatic turn as Joe proved unable to counter Trump's bombast under the pressure of an intense debate. Tuesday night we witnessed Trump having the same types of difficulty with Harris. And based on the events of the last 60+ days, the GOP should clearly recognize how this is going to end.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-12 10:40 AM

"I have the concepts of a plan and you will be hearing more in the near future."
Donald J. Trump (9/10/24)

Yuuuge concepts, bigly plans, swirling, whirling like dervishes in the feral fire dance crackling inside Orange Julius's noggin.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-12 11:03 AM

Anyone honestly think Trump is not in cognitive decline? Anyone honestly thik that that decline isn't piled up on major and pre-existing psychological deficits?

I guess MAGA can elect this man, but they ought to know that in a second term he'll be a gibbering shell and other people will be making the decisions for him.

Pretty much what they said about Biden. Funny, that.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-09-12 11:22 AM

Admittedly, his critics on the right were correct about Joe Biden's unmistakable cognitive aging from the candidate he was in 2020. Now, it's the Trumpers and GOP left with the mess of having to confront their own candidate's decompensation, currently exemplified by his unshakable belief in crazy memes and conspiracies - many of them created through Russian disinformation fronts aimed directly at the gullible minds Trump openly tries to attract.

Trump's meandering gibberish and belief in non-sensical stories culled from social media are clear signs that his cognitive abilities are either in decline or are failing. And whichever of the two choices is correct, such a person at 78 has no business inside the Oval Office dealing with the tremendous pressures and decisions coming with the presidency.

And if the specter of Trump's decline isn't enough to scare voters, JD Vance's scant 2 years of government service as a Senator potentially having to step in as POTUS is almost as frightening of a thought as both of them clinging to their racist belief that Haitian immigrants are eating other people's cats and dogs.

The GOP is getting ready to have to confront their worst fears only 50+ days from the election.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-12 11:49 AM

The GOP is getting ready to have to confront their worst fears only 50+ days from the election.

#4 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

They don't have it in them. They are counting on Democrats to save them by defeating Trump. It's perverse.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2024-09-12 12:18 PM

I don't think his decline is even capable of cognition.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-12 12:22 PM

But the money men and women behind Trump get to see him up close and many stories have already leaked about his disassociated state where he is untethered to reality while fervently believing nonsense grade school children would question.

I'm speaking to those in the GOP who've been supporters of Trump, not those who've come to the obvious conclusion that he's unfit for office. His degrading mental status will give Republican Harris supporters even more credibility in their efforts of giving sane, rational Republicans permission to abandon Trump - even if they support other Republicans up and down the ballot not named Ted Cruz.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-12 12:27 PM

And the worst part of this cognitive decline is that no one around him can say no! Just imagine the trouble that a demented president can get us into if his staff is afraid to say no!

#8 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-09-12 06:10 PM

Just imagine the trouble that a demented president can get us into if his staff is afraid to say no!

Maybe the idea is to use him to win the election and then 25th Amendment his ass out of there right after. They'd need the Senate for that though.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-12 06:23 PM

He's always talked like that. It's DAZZLE THEM WITH --------.

Works wonders on gullible morons and leaves the rest of us shaking our heads and laughing.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-09-12 07:08 PM

Trump: "Pennsylvania, remember this when you have to go to vote"

(He is in Arizona)

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#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-12 08:55 PM

To demonstrate how much Trump has declined in the last 8 years, more side by side comparisons like this please:

Phillip: We compared Trump's debate answers from 2016 to the ones he gave this week after the very first question on immigration.. He veers off topic several times.. watch

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#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-12 11:29 PM

When you really stop to analyze his BS, it becomes clearer that it truly is BS. For example, Trump claims everyone wanted Roe to be overturned, but at the same time he claims it took a lot of courage for him to appoint the 3 SC justices who overturned it. Huh? If everyone--Republicans, Democrats and Independents--wanted it overturned, then appointing those justices took no courage at all.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-12 11:45 PM

Yeah he says everyone wanted Roe overturned with the only evidebce being stste Legislatures passing more and more restrictive abortion laws but state legislatures with so much gerrymandering and voter suppression laws are not very representative of the actual will of the people in those states but direct citizens initiatives such as Florida has on the ballot this year are represebtative of the will of the people. In state after state the initiatives win by large maegins as most people are ezpecting to happen here in Florida. Thus, in reality, yhe majority want aborone.t limit on how long a woman can be pregnant before decidinf to gsve ion to be lrga and not with a six week maximum amount of time before a woman can decide to have an abortion.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-13 05:42 AM

Stay calm!

Jeff will be here to whine about Biden soon.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-13 10:44 AM

Speaking of Time ...

Time heals all wounds. And wounds all heels.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-13 04:39 PM

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