If he shot at Kamala the whole narrative would be different.

If he had killed Trump what would have happened to policy toward Ukraine?

What would have happened to support for Ukraine?

Ukraine has a kill list of public enemies they want taken out.

Was Trump on that list?

I hate the guy but he was President and he's one of Us.

Ukraine is increasingly showing a truly deranged mindset.

They're like the "Good" Terrorist activity in Syria.

Wingnuts being Used as pawns. Who will turn on their former benefactors if they lose enough.

Interesting Times ahead..

Say what you want about Putin. He's at least rational.

The Ukrainians have been badly used by the West. Led down a primrose path of possible NATO membership and unity with the EU. But somehow never GOOD ENOUGH.

They have been encouraged to break ties with Russia and become the point of the Spear of Western conflict with Russia. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died.

If they feel sufficiently betrayed they could act out like the former Al Nusra front and other "good" terrorists did when they joined ISIS.

Ukraine could become like Syria. In Europe. A source of Rightwing terrorists with a grudge seeking revenge for being used and abused by the West.

Think that's Impossible?

Think Again.

Not my kind of guy.

My kind of guy wouldn't have armed Ukraine before 2022. Obama is my kind of guy. He refused to arm Ukraine with lethal weapons. Obama did not encourage the war of the Ukrainians against their own people in the Eastern Oblasts. Obama pushed for the Minsk Accords, if that was in good faith or not I don't know.

Biden continues to arm the Ukrainians, which started under the Trump Administration. Trump is no friend of Russia. That's pure hype.

Biden has continued a lot of bad Trump policies. He left the US embassy in Jerusalem which helped lead to 10/7/23 indirectly. He hasn't been anything like helpful toward Palestine.

Biden isn't as different from Trump on foreign policy as many people think.

It's called a Uni-party for a reason.

Obama was less like Trump than Biden is. Obama tried to help the Palestinians.

He tried to check Israel from it's worst excesses. Biden has aided and abetted Israel in Genocide and ethnic cleansing.

My kind of Guy wouldn't have prevented an early negotiated peace settlement.

My kind of guy wouldn't have refused to negotiate with Russia about NATO expansion in the months leading up to war.

Trump is not my kind of guy, and Biden is not my kind of guy Either.

They're both -------- unimaginative old Losers.

Harris is really the only realistic way forward... But she Sucks too.

That's the way I see it.

I want Peace in Europe. Not hundreds of thousands of dead for a line on a map.

No Nuclear Upgrade in the US. Nuclear Disarmament.

I want no proxy Wars with nuclear powers.

I don't care if the eastern Quarter of Ukraine is annexed by Russia. That's already Happened anyway and NATO couldn't stop it. It could have been prevented by diplomatic means if the right person had been president instead of Biden or Trump.

Russia is not a paper tiger. They have more at stake in Ukraine than we do.

They aren't giving up. It's Existential for them. Plus at this point they're winning.

Biden created many these problems.

Trump did as well.

Why the hell should I?

Ukraine is not a core American interest. This whole thing could have been avoided if diplomatic means had actually been tried.

Obama as President Might have avoided this war. If he had been president at the time. Obama knew it was stupid to pour gasoline on a fire. He limited arms transfers to Ukraine, he supported the Minsk Accords.

The Ukrainians kept attacking the Donbass, killing their own people.

Russia wanted security talks about Ukraine and NATO in the months leading up to war.

Biden wouldn't even talk to them.

I think Obama would have. Would that have been enough to prevent War?

Who knows? But I think Obama would have at least tried.

Trump will trigger world war if elected. He's no Russian puppet.

He's a Delusional Fool.

#13 You are impervious to logic. Your mind is hermetically sealed on this issue.

The war exists. NATO isnt stopping the Slaughter. They're feeding it.

Why should any more people Die?

At what point do the sunk costs become too many? If it was American lives being lost in Ukraine that point would have been reached long ago.

But it's just Ukrainians bring killed and maimed and Ukraine getting pulverized for Western interests.

Russia isn't going away. They are winning. They wouldn't stop even if they weren't.

Ukraine is to them like Canada is to Us. If Canada got turned against us and became a hostile nation with advanced weapons pointed right at Us all the time we would invade and annex them too. No point trying to deny that.

But Russia is supposed to just tolerate a hostile Ukraine on their Western border. That's not going to happen. World War would be more likely.

I'm not pro Russia I'm just not stupid and delusional. This thing isn't going to work out.

It's going to Explode.

We almost Nuked Cuba over Russian missiles being placed there.

I'm confident if Canada became a Russian ally and allowed advanced weapons systems to be installed on their soil we would attack them just like Russia did Ukraine. Hell, if Canada even elected a pro Russia government we would preemptively attack them to prevent any such developments.

We tried to kill Fidel Castro for 40 years. The Embargo is still in place. If Russia had refused to remove their missiles what would have happened then?

Russia is doing exactly what we would do in their place. There's No point in even denying that.

It's just too Obvious.

So why don't we just Nuke Russia Now? If World War is inevitable?

Hit first where they're not expecting it. Like the Japanese.

Why doesn't NATO start a full scale war with Russia? If it's inevitable anyway?

Your WW2 analogies only go so far. This isn't 1938. What's happening now isn't identical to the situation then.

Russia wanted a Buffer Zone. NATO kept crowding them. Russia got violent.

Anyone more than four years old could see it coming for twenty years.

But the West is arrogant and never sees their own failings. It's always about "freedom" and "aggression" never about justified fear and less justified paranoia about being aggressed upon.

Iraq, Vietnam,Cuba,Serbia, Libya, Palestine.. The West imposed it's will on many different places,or tried to.

Russia is an Imperialistic power. The West has a long history of the same thing.

There are no Good Guys. Just conflicting interests.

Diplomatic relationships are the Key to stopping this. That means treating Russia as an Equal.

Russia has a history Of NOT BEING TREATED AS AN EQUAL.

They are full of resentment and paranoia. They don't trust the West. At All.

I don't see a good outcome.

Maybe we should enact a Draft and prepare for War.

Cuz it's coming.

Will the US do that in Iraq?

Will the Israeli's do it in Gaza?

When does Serbia get Kosovo back?

Where are the reparations for the Iraqi people?

Libya still needs assistance, where is it?

NATO is just as Imperialistic as Russia.

When will they make their sins right?

#20 No more like Canada. The Russian language is widely spoken in Ukraine like English is in Canada. We share a common British heritage like the Russians and Ukrainians are virtually one people. The Canadians are different like the Ukrainians are but not too different. Canada shares a long common border and is not completely independent of US influence.

US and Canada is more like Russia and Ukraine than US and Mexico are.

For many reasons.

California was part of Mexico, the US invaded Mexico in 1846 and annexed half of it. You would be in Mexico if they got their "Territorial Integrity" Respected under international law.

Canada and the US share more common cultural affinities than the US and Mexico do. We speak the same language, we have an undefended border, the longest such border in earth.

Mexico was invaded because greedy men wanted it... Plenty of Americans at the time were against that war. Henry David Thoreau went to Jail for protesting it.

Has the US apologized for taking and KEEPING half of Mexico including it's most valuable and resource rich areas?

When Will we Return the stolen lands to the Mexicans?

Why is Ukraine's "territorial integrity" more important than Mexico's was?

What gave President Polk the right to invade and annex half of Mexico?

Do You feel bad knowing that your home was stolen by War from Mexico?

If Mexico wants reparations are you willing to pay, knowing that you personally are living on stolen land?

Or is there a statute of limitations on War crimes and Conquest?

It's easy to Preach when you give yourself a Pass.

Nobody else is giving anyone a pass.

It's a MIGHT MAKES RIGHT world.

That's why Truman Nuked Japan.

I believe the US will use Nukes again. And Be the only ones who do.

We're Exceptional, we get a Pass... Our Sins are Excusable.. We Mean Well...

I know, Guy... I know..

You Tell it like it is Fella.... Sing it Out..

Sing it Loud,.. Sing it Strong.....

Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to Hear...

Just Sing... Sing a Song......

Lol.

If that is true? Why does the US have a Nuclear First Use policy and Russia and China don't?

They will only use them if attacked. We reserve the right to use them First if "Necessary".

What the Hell does that mean?

That We will Nuke countries that Can't hit back in kind? In fact, it's likely that's how it will go when it happens.

It's Safer to Nuke non nuclear countries. They can't Hit back. Just like Japan.

On the ropes at the point of Surrender, and 250,000 Civilians vaporized to test Truman's New Toys and intimidate Russia.

Exceptional, Far Seeing, A light unto Nations.

Russia never Nuked anyone and they lost Twenty times as many as we did to the Nazis.

The US military wanted to use Nukes in both Korea and Vietnam.

It's a good thing cooler heads prevailed. They wouldn't have if the nuclear monopoly was intact. We would have Terrorized the world.

A world with the US as the only nuclear power would have been worse for humanity than the Cold War.

The Rosenburgs were Heroes in the sense that they helped break that monopoly.

No one country should have that kind of destructive power with no Check on it's use.

The Arms race was an improvement on that!

That's Why Truman used them. We had a monopoly on Nuclear Arms.

Why they chose to target Cities full of Civilians is not clear to me...

Why not hit military targets?

Because the Japanese were effectively defeated already?

Because killing hundreds of thousands of civilians was more likely to evoke Blind Terror?

Truman is truly an Evil figure. Nothing else he ever did compensates for the TERROR BOMBING of Two Cities without any real military objective except to create Terror and test new Toys.

The military leadership of the time was against the use of Atomic weapons on Japan.

They said was Extreme and Unnecessary.

Truman wanted to Scare the Bejesus out of the Russians.

Japan was already finished except for Mopping Up.

America has the Mark of Cain on it. More than any other country.

But we just Double Down on the Militarism. It's all We Know..

Propaganda is your Daily Bread. Read more History.

Most American military leaders in 1945 were against using "that Terrible Thing" against the Japanese. Truman was almost alone in wanting to use it.

The Japanese were willing to Surrender but wanted the Emperor left alone.

That was their Only condition. 250,000 people were Nuked because the US couldn't let Japan have one small condition on their Humiliation. They Couldn't let them keep one shred of Dignity.

Then... after Killing a quarter million people... They left the Emperor alone anyway...

You can't make this ---- up.

It's literally Unbelievable.

If any other Country did this they would be considered like the Nazis, or worse.

America is Exceptional... We don't Do Evil...

By Definition... We Can't.

If 250,000 AMERICANS got Nuked doing nothing but existing in their own homes.

You wouldn't be saying that.

How many Americans it would have cost to subdue Japan conventionally is not a legitimate reason to nuke Civilians.

War Crimes are not Excused because they potentially save the lives of combatants. It doesn't work that way.

Bombing Cities is always wrong, Especially when There are No military Targets being hit and civilians are being specifically targeted.

If Israel bombs a hospital or School because people are hiding there and they think it will shorten the war and save Israeli lives that doesn't make it NOT a war crime.

Now multiply that by 100,000.

Add in the fact that the whole point of using Nukes was to Terrorize the Japanese. Not attain any clear military objective.

Another example of how Wars Crimes are okey dokey if Americans commit Them but Monstrous Evil.if any other country tries it, except Israel.

As the world's only "Jewish State" they get a Pass too.

But only them... Everyone else Must Be Held Accountable.

The people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't "Rape" Nanking any more than American citizens in Chicago bombed Hiroshima.

The people targeted were not combatants. That's a WAR CRIME.

If Japan Nuked Chicago to shorten the war would they be justified?

Even if it saved numerous Japanese lives? Even if it ended the war?

You just believe American actions are exempt from being Judged like anyone else's. That American crimes are never really Crimes but only necessary things that must be excused because of our inner purity of intentions. And the need to save Americans from harm.

Get the ---- outta here with that Noise..

It's BS and always was.

#48 Only 18 billion dollars? That small potatoes. Ukraine gets more than twice that in one Tranche of aid for their War effort. And there have been several such expenditures.

What did we get for all that Jack? A lot of dead people on both sides, and Donbass and Crimea are still Russia.

Zelinsky bought a few new Manses, sniffed a lot of Coke.

Ukrainian Oligarchs got filthy Rich on the American Taxpayers.

Regular Ukrainians got to Die for their Nazi ideals.