Thursday, September 19, 2024

J.D. Vance's Weak Excuse for 'Pet Eating' Lie Just Blew Up In His Face

Greg Sargent: At bottom, Vance's whole purpose of running with the grotesque pet-eating lie has not been to draw attention to the story of Springfield, but to rewrite it.

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I think I understand what Vance is saying: When an event/situation/person does not comport with your political narrative, it's okay to lie that it does by creating "alternative facts" if that lying serves as a means to an end ... collateral damage be damned.

He sure does sound like someone in thrall to roaring sociopathic tendencies.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-19 11:50 AM

More from the cited article...

... For instance, take Vance's most basic assertion"that the media wasn't covering the Haitian influx into Springfield before the pet-eating claim took off.

This itself is nonsense.

There were already national media stories analyzing it in depth, including ones that credited Vance himself with drawing attention to it in other, less dubious ways.

What Vance really objected to is that these stories portrayed the situation as nuanced"as a development with mixed but largely good effects"rather than as a purely negative one. ...

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 12:04 PM

One day Nasrudin and his friends decided to play a joke on the people in a village. So Nasrudin drew a crowd, and lied to them about a gold mine in a certain place. When everybody ran to get their hands on the gold, Nasrudin started running with them. When asked by his friends why he was following them, he said "So many people believed it, that I think it may be true!"
savitri.in

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-19 12:14 PM

Vance Says He Will Keep Calling Haitians Legally in Springfield Illegal'
The immigrants are mainly in the United States under temporary protected status, which the executive branch can grant to people whose home countries are in crisis.
www.nytimes.com

Senator JD Vance of Ohio, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, said on Wednesday that he would continue to describe Haitian residents in Springfield, Ohio, as "illegal aliens" even though most of them are in the country legally.

The immigrants are mainly in the United States under a program called temporary protected status, which the executive branch can grant to people whose home countries are in crisis. Mr. Vance claimed falsely that this program was illegal.

"If Kamala Harris waves the wand illegally and says these people are now here legally, I'm still going to call them an illegal alien," he said in response to a reporter's question after a rally in Raleigh, N.C. "An illegal action from Kamala Harris does not make an alien legal."

Congress created the temporary protected status program in 1990 and presidents from both major parties have used it in response to wars, natural disasters and other humanitarian crises in various countries. The program allows people from countries designated by the Department of Homeland Security to live and work legally in the United States for 18 months, a period that the department can renew indefinitely. It does not include a path to permanent residency or citizenship.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-09-19 12:25 PM

Vance Says He Will Keep Calling Haitians Legally in Springfield Illegal'

So will our resident deplorable trumping MAGAts.

Klans gonna Klan.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-19 12:27 PM

@#1 ... I think I understand what Vance is saying: When an event/situation/person does not comport with your political narrative, it's okay to lie ...

Well, yeah.

While it is great that Sen Vance admits that, there's more to discuss here.

I'll start with...

Welcome to MAGA.


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 09:53 PM

@#5 ... So will our resident deplorable trumping MAGAts. ...

... and why do you think the Trump campaign has been striving to keep this issue at the forefront?

Because it detracts from the abortion issue, the issue that they seem to realize may not be in their favor (I may understate).


So, all the discussions about eating pets are little more that MAGA trying to change to topic away from their losing topic.


I mean, can they be anymore obvious in that?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 09:58 PM

Being an a$$hole liar seems to be a prerequisite in today's MAGA-controlled GOP.

Trump made it okay for any politician to say anything they know isn't true.

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-20 12:47 AM

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