Friday, October 04, 2024

No, Biden Didn't Use FEMA Money on Migrants, But Trump Did

[W]hen he was president, [Trump] did exactly what he claims Biden did " take money from FEMA's disaster fund to fund migrant programs at the southern border. ... In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico.

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Trump has been trying to weaponize the Hurricane Helene relief efforts, accusing the Biden administration of failing to provide adequate assistance. As part of his critique, he claims that there is no money available for hurricane relief because it was spent already to handle the surge of migrants at the southern border.

Trump's claims have been echoed by his supporters, such as billionaire Elon Musk. But Trump is completely wrong.

Even though Trump was once president, he still appears to have little clue about the appropriations process. What's even richer is that when he was president, he did exactly what he claims Biden did - take money from FEMA's disaster fund to fund migrant programs at the southern border.

Trump has a habit of assuming other politicians act in the same way as he would. So we wondered why he would accuse Biden of raiding the FEMA disaster fund to handle undocumented migrants.

It turns out that's because he did this! In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico. "The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border," the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds.

The monthly reports issued by the FEMA disaster fund show $38 million was plucked and given to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in August that year - just before the prime storm period of September and October.

I'm so tired of this ish, I can't wait for November 5th to come and go. Yet again, projection is Donald Trump's best friend as he tries to falsely accuse and blame the Biden Administration for exactly what he did in 2019 - take money from FEMA and spend it on immigrants at the southern border.

Quelle surprise.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 03:01 PM

As Trump's lies become more obvious it is an indication he's feeling increasingly desperate and I guess prison is looking more likely in his future.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2024-10-04 06:22 PM

blame the Biden Administration

It's not the "Biden" administration, it's the "Biden/Harris" administration.

Did you not get the memo?

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-10-04 06:24 PM

Perhaps a few swing voters will notice... OK, that may be overly optimistic, lol.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-04 06:24 PM

And how much did he snatch from the military budget to help pay for his stupid wall? Money that was allocated to improve security at U.S. military bases.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-04 06:27 PM

Not to mention FDT withheld California's wildfire relief funding because he didn't think people were voting for him. What an -------.

#6 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-10-04 06:48 PM

Binary politics is ruining everything.

#7 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-10-04 07:52 PM

DEMS need to get real and just st-fu for once instead of perpetually lying and coverup. Mayorkus told us in June everything is under control and will be fine for hurricanes

Can you even imagine just how bad things will get if Kamala were to somehow be in total charge. She is the kind of head bureacrat who has no interest and nothing to offer. Give her a beach chair where she can sleep and relax like daddy Joe. She doesn't give a rats axx about sheep and the needs of people.

www.msn.com

#8 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-04 07:58 PM

@#7 ... Binary politics is ruining everything. ...

Yeah, I agree somewhat with that.

But my main concern is that politicians, once they get elected into office, seem to forget the oath they took to support the Constitution, i.e., supporting their voters and not their constituents.

So, imo, it is not the binary politics, but the politicians who seem to abdicate the oath they swore to.


Stated differently, if a politician abdicates an oath they swore to, how much can you trust that politician?

Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next (1998)
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#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-04 08:07 PM

@#8 ... DEMS need to get real and just st-fu for once instead of perpetually lying and coverup. ...

From the article cited in #8 ...

... Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but would not have enough to "make it through the season."

This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming weather crises. ...


Yeah. Sec Mayorkas made those prior comments before Helene struck.

I read the cited article.

Also from that cited article...

... However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA's disaster relief fund remained in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running out by "mid-August." ...

Yet I do not see any evidence of the assertion that "DEMS need to get real and just st-fu for once instead of perpetually lying and coverup."

What else yer got?

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-04 08:13 PM

I'm so tired of this ish, I can't wait for November 5th to come and go. Yet again, projection is Donald Trump's best friend as he tries to falsely accuse and blame the Biden Administration for exactly what he did in 2019 - take money from FEMA and spend it on immigrants at the southern border.
Quelle surprise.
#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-04 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:| Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

This status quo disgusts me.

The appropriations have been "spent" this election cycle.

#11 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-04 08:36 PM

Repubicans have spent the better part of the last three years doing nothing and threatening to shut down the government and whining about spending, but sure, blame Mayorkas for not having enough of that socialism ready for MAGAland when the climate change they don't believe in hits...

Pick a lane and stay in it, you cultist lunatics...

#12 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-10-04 08:43 PM

I'm just waiting for the author of #8 to reply to my #10.

...

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-04 08:56 PM

Too bad House Republicans didn't pass a budget to adequately fund FEMA.

The idiots have only one goal. Destroy America and blame democrats.

Fortunately for them, republican voters are fkkking morons.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-04 09:00 PM

I'm just waiting for the author of #8 to reply

That beta version AI program can't complete such high level tasks.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-04 09:06 PM

No, Biden didn't take FEMA relief money to use on migrants " but Trump did

-OP copied the headline wrong. Yes FEMA money is given to non-us citizens.

#16 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-04 09:06 PM

Two observations:

Since FEMA is assigned money for non-US citizens, are we acknowledging that the border is a Federal Emergency?

Since FEMA spent just 1B on non-US citizens, where does the rest of the 150B / 451B come from?

homeland.house.gov
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) released figures in May 2023 calculating the
financial impact of the crisis for cities and states across the country, finding that the annual cost
just to care for and house the known gotaways and illegal aliens who have been released into the
country under Mayorkas' leadership could cost as much as an astounding $451 billion

Another key comprehensive study is published by the Federation for American Immigration
Reform (FAIR). The group's 2023 report found that illegal immigration's annual net burden on
the U.S. economy as of 2022 totaled more than $150 billion.2 In particular, researchers found that
illegal immigration imposes around $182 billion in federal, state, and local costs, while illegal
aliens pay approximately $31 billion in total tax contributions.3 The federal government is
responsible for more than $66 billion in expenditures, an increase of 45 percent from 2017, while
the states foot the bill for more than $115 billion in additional spending on illegal aliens, a 30-
percent increase from 2017.

#17 | Posted by commnotes at 2024-10-04 09:14 PM

@#17 ... Since FEMA is assigned money for non-US citizens ...

An unsubstantiated premise.

... Since FEMA spent just 1B on non-US citizens, ...

Another unsubstantiated premise. The article your alias cites does not say that FEMA spent disaster money on immigrants.

Indeed the title of that PDF your alias cites is, "THE HISTORIC DOLLAR COSTS OF DHS SECRETARY ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS' OPEN-BORDERS POLICIES"

Sp, please explain how that relates to FEMA?

thx.





#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-04 09:31 PM

#8

---- off, you ------- idiot.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-04 10:07 PM

#17
---- off Jeffy

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-04 10:07 PM

With Trump, it's always projection. He knows what shouldn't be done and what would have the biggest impact publicly because people told him not to do it when he was president.

#21 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-10-05 06:43 AM

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