Anthony: My father-in-law lives just outside of Asheville, North Carolina, and he was badly damaged by Hurricane Helene. And he has refused all FEMA help because he's a hardcore Trumper. He literally believes that if he accepts anything from FEMA, they're going to take his house.

Dan Abrams: Wow.

Anthony: And my wife, my wife is - I mean, we're literally, I mean, we're at the point where, like, screw them. I mean, if they're going to listen to Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity over us who have his best interest at heart, or my wife, my poor wife is like, the hell with them. Screw them. And it sucks. It really sucks in and I don't understand how so many people are under the spell of this freaking con man. I don't understand it.

Dan, it's hard. It's hard to even imagine it. I mean, he lost almost everything, and he's refusing all help from the federal government and complaining to us that he doesn't have food, that he doesn't have the stuff he needs, and yet he won't accept the help. What the hell are we supposed to do? We're not in a position to be able to fly across the country and help him. There's people begging us to get him to accept help and he won't do it. And I guarantee you, I'm not the only one. I guarantee you I'm not the only one.

Abrams: I wish there was something I could say as to, you know, I don't know. Is there - does he have access to any electronics where you could send him some information debunking this and that?

Anthony: We've done all of that. We've done all of that. We've sent him, we've sent him all the FEMA bulletins. We've sent him all the stuff from the fact checkers. He doesn't believe it. He thinks it's all - he just believes Trump, literally, Dan. He just - it's a cult! He's a cult member. I'm sorry to say it. He's a cult member. And he's my father-in-law and it sucks.