The Cost and Immorality of Mass Incarceration & Deportation

Sunday, November 10, 2024

The cost of imprisonment -- including who benefits and who pays -- is a major part of the national discussion around criminal justice policy. But prisons and jails are just one piece of the criminal justice system and the amount of media and policy attention that the various players get is not necessarily proportional to their influence. In this first-of-its-kind report, we find that the system of mass incarceration costs the government and families of justice-involved people at least $182 billion every year.

Posted by danni at 05:30 PM | 20 COMMENTS | permalink

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This is what the GQP prays for.

www.latimes.com

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-10 10:11 AM

Our Oligarchs and the Big Corporations really have no interest at all in, 'morals'.... they aren't much of a concern for their Holy Bottom Line.

And with Trump in office, neither does our Government have much interest in doing the right thing for the People, rather than for their REAL EMPLOYERS, the ones who pay them for their campaign expenses, hence their very jobs, and promise all our politicians Golden Parachutes on a Corp Board somewhere when they retire.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-10 05:54 PM

Posted by Corky at 2024-11-10 05:54 PM | Reply

That's the Democratic establishment as well. That's in large part why they lost.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-10 06:03 PM

Laura... "the Parties are the same" isn't the case here; Dems fought all the rwing campaign laws for decades, and only succumbed when CU and others made it Law, the only way to win a Race.

And many more Dems than Republicans vote for remedies and against such laws every year.

But yeah, now that money is speech thanks to Republicans mainly, money not only talks, it rules.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-10 06:26 PM

who gives a ---- this is what the magat scum want, ---- even CA wants more incarcerated.

The time of human dignity is past, the time of people are ---- is her

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-10 07:45 PM

... The cost of imprisonment -- including who benefits and who pays -- is a major part of the national discussion around criminal justice policy. But prisons and jails are just one piece of the criminal justice system and the amount of media and policy attention that the various players get is not necessarily proportional to their influence. ...

No worries about the cost of imprisonment.

Pres-elect Trump is going to deport all 10- to 21-illegal immigrants so quickly on day one in the Oval Office that the cost of doing so does not matter.

Yet, we still have not a clue regarding how he intends to accomplish that Day One goal.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-10 07:55 PM

Yet, we still have not a clue regarding how he intends to accomplish that Day One goal.

The last time he had "Day One" promises he said, "Well it's Friday. Day One is really Monday." Then he went golfing.

I never noticed... did he say he would be working his ass off instead of golfing this time?

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-10 08:00 PM

@#7 ... did he say he would be working his ass off instead of golfing this time? ...

February 4, 2016
I love golf... but if I were in the White House ... I'd just want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-10 08:10 PM

If he really wants to do that we historical precwwdt "The Maech of Tears." And it should be noted that virtually all of those he intends could prove their Native American status through DNA testing which IMHO should greatly increase the validity of the term"illegal aliens". These people can prove that their heritage proves their ancestors were in this country far longer than any white American and definitely far longer that Trump who probably should be deported to Germany where his forefathers came from which perhaps explains his desire to study Hitler and now govern like him?

#9 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-10 09:07 PM

Laura... "the Parties are the same" isn't the case here; Dems fought all the rwing campaign laws for decades, and only succumbed when CU and others made it Law, the only way to win a Race.

And many more Dems than Republicans vote for remedies and against such laws every year.

But yeah, now that money is speech thanks to Republicans mainly, money not only talks, it rules.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-10 06:26 PM | Reply

I would keep silent if I were you. The Democratic establishment and their wealthy corporate donors spent over 1.4 BILLION dollars for Kamala Harris's campaign and they lost their collective rears in spite of or because of it. How's that unfettered gravy train working out for you Corky.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-10 09:50 PM

@#9 ... If he really wants to do that we historical precwwdt "The Maech of Tears." ...

Thanks for citing that.

I learned something.

Trail of Tears (2023)
www.history.com

... At the beginning of the 1830s, nearly 125,000 Native Americans lived on millions of acres of land in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina and Florida"land their ancestors had occupied and cultivated for generations. But by the end of the decade, very few natives remained anywhere in the southeastern United States.

Working on behalf of white settlers who wanted to grow cotton on the Indians' land, the federal government forced them to leave their homelands and walk hundreds of miles to a specially designated "Indian Territory" across the Mississippi River. This difficult and oftentimes deadly journey is known as the Trail of Tears. ...

Thank-you.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-10 10:21 PM

"Be proud to be a MAGAT AND NATIONALIST and populist American. Make America proud and make it American in blended culture and ethnicity but beholden to no one."at the time

Wow! Great quote I had forgotten about as did I'm sure the Republicabs who heard him say it and believed him. To them it was his willingness to sacrifice for the common welfsre but to those of us not hypnotized by him it was just another lie.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-10 10:22 PM

@#12 ... Wow! Great quote ...

While I do not necessarily disagree.

I (OK, the search engines I "consulted") cannot seem to find that quote anywhere.

What's the source of the quote? Got a link?

thx.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-10 10:34 PM

go home.... no cost

Go home, no imprisonment
Just go home.. we good

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-11 12:20 AM

@#14 ... go home.... no cost

Go home, no imprisonment
Just go home.. we good ...

Do try harder to be rational.

I'll leave it at that for this comment.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-11 02:56 AM

The stupidity of the poor working class who think deporting brown skinned people will somehow make their own lives better. One day, when the Democratic Party ditches the highly paid strategists, ypu know, the wannabe James Carvilles who don't kn.ow anything but who cost the Dems millions in high salaries for teir expertise" advice about elections, one day we will get rid of all those expensive ass****s and tell poor people that "a rising tide lifts all boats" but if you want to leave some groups behind so you can benefit that tide can't rise.
A boat with holes for some won't float. Poor people either all rise together or they don't rise at all. A big hole in the poor people's boat id those we call "illegal immigrants" which is just a euphamism for "people without rights" who can be treated any way an evil employer wants to treat them because they can't complain. They are virtually indentured servants and those employers want to keep it that way. Most Americans don't see what is right in front of them. Who do you suppose is going to do all the jobs immigrants are now doing? Let me know when you have an answer because I do know but I'll wait to find out if you Trump voters do.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-12 08:57 AM

Clue: Nazi Germany did the same thing.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-12 08:59 AM

Do we have enough cattle cars?
Looks like a job maker.

#18 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-12 09:17 AM

Anyone figure it out yet? I honestly think i have.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-12 10:19 AM

Do we have enough cattle cars?
Looks like a job maker.

#18 | Posted by fortfisher

Found the Incel Neo-Nazi Troll. This game is too easy.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-12 12:04 PM

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