Saturday, January 11, 2025

A Delusional Emperor Trump Fiddles While LA Burns

Will Bunch: As the second-largest U.S. city burns, the president-elect brings deluded imperial dreams and a disastrous retreat on climate change.

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While Trump threatens to invade Canada and his MAGA movement bullies and harasses Canadians and other US allies, Canadians are busy saving USians from burning alive. Canadian air crews in Los Angeles risked their lives to save US civilians. #palisadesfire

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-- Anonymous (@youranoncentral.bsky.social) January 8, 2025 at 9:47 PM

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It's rarely even mentioned that Trump's 2024 grind toward a second term included his should-have-been-shocking pledge to roll back climate regulations if Big Oil would raise $1 billion to fund his campaign. The target was overly ambitious, but many energy millionaires did open their wallets. And the president-elect has now made clear that more fossil fuels and less clean energy will be his legacy, with or without Greenland.

Lost in the hoopla over Trump's worst and most bat-guano crazy cabinet picks, like weekend TV host Pete Hegseth to run the Pentagon, is that the president-elect's less-controversial choices for key energy posts will speed the fiery destruction of our planet.

These include Russell Vought, the Christian nationalist Project 2025 author tapped to head Trump's Office of Management and Budget (OMB), who's vowed to weaken and undermine the next mandated National Climate Assessment; the oil field executive Chris Wright, who last year posted to his LinkedIn that "there is no climate crisis," as his energy secretary; and politico Lee Zeldin, who wants a "radical rollback" of regulations, to head the Environmental Protection Agency.

We don't yet know if Trump's Marines will be storming Panama, but it's a done deal that his bureaucrats will withdraw from the Paris climate accords, again. Although it's true that market forces have been and may continue to boost clean energy, don't discount the religious fervor among the right that sees fossil-fuel extraction as God's greatest handiwork. With little fanfare, the Republicans who run Oklahoma are actually striving to ban clean energy, in what could be a template for Beltway zealots.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-11 04:22 PM

Flashback to 2020:

CA official: "If we ignore the science and put our head in the sand... we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians."

Trump: "It'll start getting cooler. You just watch."

"I wish science agreed with you."

Trump: "I don't think science knows, actually."

What a colossal --------.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-11 04:38 PM

Looking at the map, we could be looking at a magnitude or more worse disaster than the incredible destruction we have seen.

www.fire.ca.gov

The Palisades fire has moved north and is approaching an urban area with multitudes more people/houses etc.

Apparently, the Santa Ana winds turned northerly and easterly since yesterday and if that happens and it pushes the fires over the mountains, just wow.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-11 05:22 PM

And I wonder how Trump is going to react to the fact that both Canada and Mexico has been supplying hardware and manpower to help fight the fires in Los Angeles.

OCU

#4 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-01-11 10:04 PM

Rofl, the man isn't even in charge yet. But he certainly will be here soon and as I mentioned elsewhere I foresee strings being attached to any disaster relief. But right now is the perfect time for Newsom to implement Calexit like he was mouthing off about the last time Trump came into office.

#5 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 10:28 PM

Rofl, the man isn't even in charge yet. But he certainly will be here soon and as I mentioned elsewhere I foresee strings being attached to any disaster relief. But right now is the perfect time for Newsom to implement Calexit like he was mouthing off about the last time Trump came into office.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 10:28 PM | Repl

There should NEVER be strings attached to any disaster relief. None whatsoever

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-11 11:11 PM

If this were an earthquake I'd certainly agree. However, Republicans have warned California leadership to get their act together in regard to fires and they're about to find out just how serious Republicans were and are on that matter.

#7 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 11:25 PM

I'm sure Republicans will compassionately offer $750 to everyone who was impacted no strings attached just like Biden and Harris did to those in Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas. I'm sure that'll cover it.

#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 11:30 PM

If this were an earthquake I'd certainly agree. However, Republicans have warned California leadership to get their act together in regard to fires and they're about to find out just how serious Republicans were and are on that matter.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 11:25 PM | Reply

Republicans haven't cared about California or the wildfires for a long time. It's been the science community that has cared however. Then when presented with the problem morons like Trump declare that the area will get cooler and that raking the forest floors would solve this issue. They are ignorant saps to be sure.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-11 11:34 PM

Trump has a lengthy record on recommendations to Newsom about how to properly address the fire issue. This will lie at Newsom's feet when it's all said and done. Unless he does an about face it's over for him nationally.

#10 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 11:46 PM

Trump has a lengthy record on recommendations to Newsom about how to properly address the fire issue. This will lie at Newsom's feet when it's all said and done. Unless he does an about face it's over for him nationally.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-11 11:46 PM | Reply

Trump doesn't have the knowledge necessary to understand fire mitigation you ignorant buffoon. Get real. He's an idiot that you voted for. I should feel sorry for you but I don't.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 12:03 AM

www.politico.com

Trump's suggestions have prompted head-scratching from experts who say his prescriptions " more raking, less water released into the ocean for environmental purposes " suggest he does not understand the science of wildfires. Critics also point out that most of California's wildlands are federally managed.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 12:09 AM

Yeah that's common sense, store excess water in Dams instead of destroying dams and dumping it into the ocean (both of what Newsom and the corrupt legislature have done). Get a grip moron.

#13 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 12:21 AM

Only 2% of the lands in California are under the control of Sacramento. 48% is privately owned and 50% is the responsibility of the federal government.

OCU

#14 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-01-12 12:24 AM

Yeah that's common sense, store excess water in Dams instead of destroying dams and dumping it into the ocean (both of what Newsom and the corrupt legislature have done). Get a grip moron.

#13 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 12:21 AM | FLAG EYE ROLL

Where and how do you propose they build the dams?

uh yeah... that's what I figured... moron

try putting bleach in your veins... you fekkin expert

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-01-12 04:59 AM

Right ... here is one example of Newsom being an idiot on the exact subject you're challenging me on.

apnews.com

#16 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 09:20 AM

Flashback to 2020:
CA official: "If we ignore the science and put our head in the sand... we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians."
Trump: "It'll start getting cooler. You just watch."
"I wish science agreed with you."
Trump: "I don't think science knows, actually."

bsky.app

Putin's bitch said California shouldn't worry because it was going to start getting cooler. Then again, he's the 300 lb sack of dementia who claimed 15 Covid cases would soon go down to 0 before letting 1.2 million Americans choke out.

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-12 09:35 AM

@governor.ca.gov just launched a new site to ensure the public has access to fact-based data around the Southern California wildfires.

California Fire Facts

gavinnewsom.com

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 09:45 AM

here is one example of Newsom being an idiot

#16 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Come on. You're MAGA. Idiocy doesn't matter to you.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 09:50 AM

The next four Donald years will be like the last four Donald years: MAGA holding everyone else up to standards they have contempt for.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 09:52 AM

Trump will continue to blame Newsom because he wants to deflect from any conversation about climate change. Bottom line though is that as the forest fires, droughts, floods and hurricanes increase in intensity, it will be more and more difficult for state and local officials to prepare for and recover from their devastating effects.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 09:55 AM

Gal ... it's definitely the climate change and not the homeless bums up in the hills setting fires to stay warm that's causing all of this. Or the arsonists that have been apprehended starting other fires. I know you hang around X and have seen the videos. You're smarter than that so quit preaching bs.

As for you Zed, the only thing that's most likely going to happen to you the next four years are excessive therapy bills.

#22 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 10:11 AM

Arsonists may start the fires, but they burn as intensiviely and extensively as they do due to climate change. This is not an either/or option but a both/and reality.

PS I no longer hang out on X.

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 10:24 AM

As seen on the internets:

How sad it must be believing scientists, scholars, historians, economists and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality tv star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 10:29 AM

it's definitely the climate change and not the homeless bums up in the hills setting fires to stay warm that's causing all of this. Or the arsonists that have been apprehended starting fires

#16 | Posted by Bluewaffles

It's definitely whatever started the fires and climate change.

Idiot.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:33 AM

#18 That's funny. Do you know what and who Newsom was blaming yesterday for the failures before, during and after the fires? Old Gavin became Harris 2.0 overnight. Congrats on being one of the last DR left wingnut sheep to hop on the BSKY train. It doesn't count, unless you delete your X account by the way.

#26 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 10:42 AM

An expert on X who claims to have never had an account. Truly Trumpian.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 10:45 AM

Current administration is responsible for aid to LA, not Trump, but you libbie dems cannot get him out of your heads.

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-01-12 10:51 AM

Logically explain how a bum starting a fire in the hills is due to climate change.

#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 10:54 AM

The point of this op-ed is that the coming Trump 2.0 policy on climate change is going to exacerbate the effects of climate related natural disasters, which should concern all Americans.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 10:56 AM

Current administration is responsible for aid to LA, not Trump

#28 | Posted by MSgt

The next Administration will behave as if it's responsible for nothing.

The worse it gets, the less responsible it will behave.

Gee, I wish that I had four previous years with Donald to support that prediction.

Oh, wait....

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:57 AM

Logically explain how a bum starting a fire in the hills is due to climate change.
#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles

LOL And here I thought you were smarter than to trot out that logical fallacy reasoning in the midst of this discussion.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 10:58 AM

Logically explain how a bum starting a fire in the hills is due to climate change.

#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Climate change creates the conditions that make any fire grow so big.

I can be logical all day long but it will never defeat your lack of education.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 10:59 AM

Not you Zed, you've already demonstrated through previous posts you need psychological assistance. Again enjoy those therapy bills.

#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 11:00 AM

Gal, no you're trying to create a link between homeless people starting fires on windy days and linking it to ClImAtE ChAnGe. You take it a step further and completely bypass the fact that Biden is still in office and it along with many other preventable disasters too numerous to mention could have been avoided under his leadership.

#35 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 11:03 AM

I will say this, Los Angeles burning to the ground is certainly the end all be all allegory of the Biden era.

#36 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 11:06 AM

Gal, no you're trying to create a link between homeless people starting fires on windy days and linking it to ClImAtE ChAnGe. You take it a step further and completely bypass the fact that Biden is still in office and it along with many other preventable disasters too numerous to mention could have been avoided under his leadership.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 11:03 AM | Reply

Ummmmmmm How was Biden supposed to stop the deviating affects of Climate Change??? Hmmmmmmmmmmm

#37 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 11:08 AM

I trust the points I've made are clear enough to any honest reader, despite your repeated attempts to obfiscate, conflate and shift the topic of discussion. Have a nice day, BW.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 11:08 AM

Luftwaffles. You don't know the cause and you attack Gal for the reality of what has and is providing an incredible environment for any cause of ignition to ravage and destroy like never before.

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 11:09 AM

Yav you mean like not clearing brush and doing controlled burns? Because that has nothing to do with the climate.

#40 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-12 11:12 AM

#27 The only thing I know about X is what you and a few others regurgitated on this site, following people on X with Tweets that never aged well. How's Bella. lol. You will NEVER find a post of mine with X link.

#41 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 11:12 AM

The bum was the ignition source.

The warming and drying conditions caused by climate change caused the fire to become unmanageable and engulf populated areas.

Fuel build up was caused by decades of fire suppression in a pyrocentric ecosystem that requires frequent fires.

The causes are multiple and some are manageable with proper planning.

#42 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-01-12 11:13 AM

EDIT to add, in my best Jan Brady voice, Musk, Musk, Musk, 24/7 on the Retort.

#43 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 11:14 AM

I will say this, Los Angeles burning to the ground is certainly the end all be all allegory of the Biden era.

#36 | Posted by Bluewaffles

What will you say when Dallas burns?

You know, my house in Texas has been close to these sort of fires. Twice.

It was during Donald's First Advent.

Yeah, the air was filled with allegory.

Idiot.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 11:20 AM

Yav you mean like not clearing brush and doing controlled burns? Because that has nothing to do with the climate.

Nope. I'm not getting dragged into this to argue with a moron that lies and obfuscates. You and Effete should go find that bum you keep talking about. Fccking idiots.

#45 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 11:20 AM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!

--trump's fault

wow....that was fast.....even for you f/g bigots.

#46 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-01-12 11:50 AM

#46 - what was trump blamed for exactly?

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 11:54 AM

Fccking idiots.

#45 | POSTED BY YAV

Fccking idiots talking about something they don't have a clue about.

The water wars have been going on in California since the late 1800s and early 1900s and are still going on.

But yeah jump right in the middle of that mess and just open a big "faucet" (that doesn't exist).

Gotta love fcckin Idiots.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 11:57 AM

-What will you say when Dallas burns?

You'll blame it 100% on the republican party.

but nobody cares.

the partisan bickering over the LA fires is just noise. It doesn't impact policy nor will it impact change.

California and LA will continue to do everything they've been doing despite what's happening here right now.

Santa Ana winds.....it has it's own name. LOL

extremely dry conditions and massive winds.......NOT unexpected.

And why? The almighty dollar. People with money who want the beauty of living right there.

they'll go back with precisely the same housing.....in an increased risk factor.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 12:10 PM

The discussion is about Trump because the op-ed is about how his policies will govern the next 4 years and affect the future of our country. Denying climate change is real isn't going make climate change go away, no matter how many state and local officials Republicans blame for the devastating consequences their denials and coming policies are going to create. From the op-ed:

but he's [Trump]made it clear that America's second half of the 2020s will be dedicated to tossing the fight against climate change " the root cause of LA's civic nightmare " down the memory hole.

To be clear, it takes a perfect storm to destroy a great metropolis. The fury of the westward Santa Ana winter winds is timeless. But the bottom line is that January wildfires in Southern California were fueled by decades of humans pumping carbon into the skies over LA's jammed freeways.

The last three years--the planet's hottest ever recorded, boosted by man-made global warming--of oven-roaster days have meant a cycle of stronger and moister storms over California that nurtured dense brush, followed by 300 almost completely rain-free days of drought, as Mother Nature crafted the tinderbox that erupted on Tuesday.

"A majority of the largest, deadliest, and most destructive wildfires in state history have all occurred within the past 10 years," meteorologist Eric Holthaus noted in a piece for Fast Company. "The emergence of extreme wintertime wildfires in California presents one of those classic This is climate change' moments: A specific set of weather conditions are now occurring in such a way to produce the potential for rare disasters to become much more common."

This is indeed climate change, and it's appalling that the major TV networks on Tuesday, in their breaking news coverage, gave little or no mention of the climate crisis. The political nightmare that is compounding California's tragedy is that Trump's tilting against windmills and electric stoves has guaranteed the world's second-largest emitter of carbon won't do one darn thing about this for the next four years.

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 12:15 PM

-Denying climate change is real isn't going make climate change go away,

And saying you accept climate change isn't going to make climate change go away either.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 12:21 PM

Trump will continue to blame Newsom because he wants to deflect from any conversation about climate change.

Why is climate change in the conversation? What new data point in particular caused by Climate Change caused this fire?
Lets say you believe in ClimateChange, does that mean we don't cutting back vegetation, keep reservoirs full.
Spend more on Fire prevention, why would Newsom cut $100M from fire prevention IF we know ClimateChange will make more FIRES?
See even if your utopia of ClimateChange was true, the Government that taxes its people to holy hell isn't doing any thing to mitigate it.
For instance how much CO2 was released by the fire? 15 years of CA CO2 has been released, not to mention all the toxic fumes.

Do you think fire prevention is diametrically opposed to climate change policy? Because thats how California behaves.

Wildfires are erasing California's climate gains, research shows
news.uchicago.edu

But yeah jump right in the middle of that mess and just open a big "faucet" (that doesn't exist).

What happened to Prop1? Nothing where did all that money go?

Proposition 1 " the Water Quality, Supply and Infrastructure Improvement Act of 2014 " is a $7.5 billion
water bond placed on the November 4 ballot by a nearunanimous, bipartisan vote by the Legislature
and the signature of Gov. Jerry Brown. If approved by voters, Proposition 1 would fund investments in
water projects and programs as part of a statewide, comprehensive water plan for California.
In addition to funding programs from water conservation to recycling to groundwater cleanup to water
storage, Proposition 1 is intended to leverage additional local and regional funds to provide a total
investment of $25 billion to $30 billion to address California's water needs
www.irwd.com

California voters OK'd billions forwater projects. Where are the new dams, reservoirs
sitesproject.org

Environmental rules stoke anger as California lets precious stormwater wash out to sea.

In the delta " the heart of the state's vast water system " nearly 95% of incoming water has flowed into the Pacific Ocean, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.
www.latimes.com

I see the usual Lumpers are full of emotion, they see the collapse of the Utopian Government that spend more on homeless than Fire Prevention, and want to point their finger at some shiny object out of reach.

DonnerBot points at other idiots, when he forgets he has three other fingers pointing back at him.

#52 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:24 PM

Denying climate change is real isn't going make climate change go away,

Denying fires don't contribute to climate change won't make climate change go away either.

#53 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:25 PM

forgets he has three other fingers pointing back at him.

#52 | Posted by oneironaut

How many middle fingers do you have?

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-12 12:26 PM

If you believe in climate change, fire prevention should currently be the number one priority.

Its wild all the people defending the incompetence thats making climate change worse.

#55 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:27 PM

"Yav you mean like not clearing brush and doing controlled burns? Because that has nothing to do with the climate."

Which also had nothing to do with preventing these fires in the neighborhoods and canyons. And actually the federal government owns 57 percent of California's forest land versus 3 percent owned by the state.

The wildland that has burned in Los Angeles covers areas that have many different owners. The federally owned Angeles National Forest neighbours Altadena, where the Eaton wildfire is burning. The Pacific Palisades blaze includes state and national parkland.

And you say climate had nothing to do with it but the climate did create the extreme conditions associated with these extreme weather events.

In the end especially in these wealthy neighborhoods California residents and Property owners and homeowners associations are responsible for clearing brush and creating wildfire buffer zones in most of those lands. Not the state of California.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 12:29 PM

I remember when I thought of most Chinese as quite intelligent.

1Nut has spoiled all that.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-12 12:29 PM

IAMRUNT, the flaming orange turd said California was going to be fine because the temperature was going to drop. What happened?

#58 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-12 12:30 PM

If we (US, China, Asia, Europe) stop using all forms of carbon for energy the earth will cleanse the excess CO2 in the atmosphere in anywhere from 300 to 1000 years, returning the climate back to "normal". We just need to have patience and wait, there is no need to adapt. Don't build reservoirs or clear brush.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 12:31 PM

There is no need to restrict building in areas prone to wildfires.

#60 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 12:32 PM

60

they're gonna put it all back again. for sure

if they want to pay for it, insure it, protect it (or fail to protect it) with their own money then fine. I'll watch them burn to the ground when the Santa Ana winds and dry climate combined with a spark all intersects again.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 12:38 PM

"If you believe in climate change, fire prevention should currently be the number one priority."

Gotta just love all these climate and fire prevention experts suddenly coming out of the wood work to tell us how to do it!

California is a huge state. There will be fires. Fires are a part of nature. You cannot prevent them all. You can become more prepared and more resilient to them and better able to manage them.

Fire prevention is a very high priority in California. But prevention of the underlying causes of climate change is obviously the higher priority and would make these extreme wildfires less likely and less severe and easier to manage.

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 12:40 PM

-California is a huge state. There will be fires.

agreed.

but the vulnerable areas where fires will cause massive devastation isn't all that large.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 12:43 PM

Just found out California spends $30B a year on benefits for illegal immigrants and just $3B a year on fire prevention.

So the priority isn't Climate Change.

#64 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:49 PM


but the vulnerable areas where fires will cause massive devastation isn't all that large.
#63 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Seems reasonable.

#65 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:50 PM

Gotta just love all these climate and fire prevention experts suddenly coming out of the wood work to tell us how to do it!

Read the science.

#66 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:50 PM

Fires are a part of nature.

Not in California. It used to be CA would let naturally ignited fires burn. But not today.

SierraClub etal also put the clamps on preventative burns, now 3-7yrs to get permits.

Yet the fuel builds up in 3yrs, so what are you going to do?

#67 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:52 PM

Fire prevention is a very high priority in California.

Not that high, its 10x less than migrant benefits.

#68 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 12:53 PM

More insanity adding to the cause of fires getting bigger ...

Susan Shelley: California regulations only make wildfires worse
www.dailynews.com

#69 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 01:04 PM

Dude is smarter than all the California Government put together ... saved a ton of CO2!

Probably illegal ... but ...

Californians took matters into their own hands using a pump, a generator, and emptying two pools to save their neighborhood from the LA wildfires:
"We have to give all the credit to our father, about 3 to 4 months ago was adamant about having one of these [pool pumps] for fire season."

Despite paying the highest taxes, Californians have to rely on their own pool water.
x.com

#70 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 01:24 PM

Not that high, its 10x less than migrant benefits.

#68 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You are 10x higher than me if you believe any of that ---- spewing from your Trump hole.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 01:26 PM

Every year Cali allows snow melt to flow into the Pacific Ocean.

The last water reservoir built in Cali was completed in 1979.

Then there is this:

" Los Angeles Times
@latimes

Follow
A reservoir in the Palisades that holds 117 million gallons of water was offline this month for previously scheduled maintenance. It was empty when the Palisades fire exploded"

That is criminal incompetence.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 01:36 PM

"Not in California. It used to be CA would let naturally ignited fires burn. But not today."

Because you can't let them just burn themselves out anymore numbnuts.

California does prescribed burns but remember only 3% of the forest lands are managed by California.

57% are managed by the federal government.

"Despite paying the highest taxes, Californians have to rely on their own pool water."m

Oh GFY hater.

This is exact the kind of agitprop garbage you'd would expect from a hostile foreign propagandist. Not an American.

The water system was designed to provide enough water to put out local basic structure fires. Not extreme wildfires being fueled by 100mph winds that can destroy entire towns in minutes. I doubt there is any water system in the world that would be able to provide that kind of fire suppression capability.

I bet this one gets some major upgrades but even still it would still run out of water pressure under extreme conditions like these.

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 01:39 PM

The concern trolling is top notch.

#74 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 01:39 PM

"extreme wildfires being fueled by 100mph winds that can destroy entire towns in minutes."

Sounds like a really good place to put ... ... .a town.

#75 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 01:45 PM

72

I would imagine in California, similar to most states, there's a liability shield for public entities.

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 01:47 PM

What percent of LA county is under Federal control?

#77 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 01:53 PM

Sounds like a really good place to put ... ... .a town.

#75 | POSTED BY EBERLY

An increased danger of wildfires is NOT the only danger we face due to population growth and climate change. How is that rebuilding coming along down there in our Dick state of Florida after the recent hurricanes? Did they get all the houses rebuilt in the exact same spots where they were destroyed?

I doubt there is any "good place" (as in safe place) on any coastline of America to put a town these days.

Every city and town within miles of the coast and close to sea level is in just as much danger from rising sea levels.

But we will also ignore that danger until it is upon us, too.

#78 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 01:56 PM

What percent of LA county is under Federal control?

#77 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Like you care. You are just looking for flaws you can exploit. Go find it yourself like OneNut does.

Like any city or county in America most of it is privately owned. Ask your AI.

It's a mix of owners and agencies as I already indicated.

"the wildland that has burned in Los Angeles covers areas that have many different owners. The federally owned Angeles National Forest neighbours Altadena, where the Eaton wildfire is burning. The Pacific Palisades blaze includes state and national parkland."

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:01 PM

-Did they get all the houses rebuilt in the exact same spots where they were destroyed?

Probably. Or soon enough they will.

Absurd, right? And it's all being done by people who claim they really really really really believe in global warming.

#80 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 02:10 PM

And it's all being done by people who claim they really really really really believe in global warming.
#80 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Floridians now really really really believe in global warming?

Sorry. Not buying whatever it is you are selling.

#81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:15 PM

-Floridians now really really really believe in global warming?

Let's try this again.

No, they don't. But they claim they do.

Especially the folks living in $1 M homes in Southern Florida.

And the folks who just saw their home incinerated in LA

#82 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 02:22 PM

Some of the proclaimed biggest believers in global warming own coastal property. John Kerry springs to mind.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 02:30 PM

"Some of the proclaimed biggest believers in global warming own coastal property."

Because maybe they want to protect the investments they made in their coastal properties?

Naw. That can't be it.

#84 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:32 PM

Some of the proclaimed biggest believers in global warming own coastal property. John Kerry springs to mind.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 02:30 PM | Reply

It's almost as if they have a vested interest in things not being flooded.

#85 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 02:33 PM

"No, they don't. But they claim they do."

Well some do and some don't. The republicans controlling the state (most) do not.

But you now claim they do? For the sake of your current argument of course.

#86 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:36 PM

"Because maybe they want to protect the investments they made in their coastal properties?"

Maybe protect their political careers? Or sit at the cool kids table?

Naw ... ..that can't be it.

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 02:41 PM

"Especially the folks living in $1 M homes in Southern Florida"

The folks that get to witness the costs and extreme effects of climate change first hand get their believers adjusted pretty quickly.

The rest who are not directly unaffected. Probably not so much.

#88 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:41 PM

-The republicans controlling the state (most) do not.

Yes and they admit it.

Certainly some folks in California will start admitting they really didn't believe it.

But maybe now.

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 02:46 PM

"Certainly some folks in California will start admitting they really didn't believe it."


You act like we don't have any maga maroons in California. We absolutely do. More than any other state actually. We just have managed to keep our insane clowns under control and out of power. Mostly. Not sure how long that can last even here tho.

#90 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 02:59 PM

Donnerboy,

This has been posted at some social media sites. I haven't been able to independently verify it.

Do you know if this is true:

" They've been ordered to submit to a DOT inspection in Sacramento that's scheduled for 4:30 pm today.
If they clear the inspection, they'll THEN be able to drive 400 miles to Pacific Palisades."

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 03:39 PM

Some of the proclaimed biggest believers in global warming own coastal property. John Kerry springs to mind.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 02:30 PM | Reply

That means what exactly Jeff?? We here in central Kansas experienced massive amounts of flooding too several years ago. We are far from the coastline. You can still believe in global warming/climate change and live on the coast. People take risks everyday even if they believe that their behavior might put them at risk. It's a condition of being a human being. Just sayin

#92 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 03:43 PM

#91 Don't know if fire trucks were held up or not. I would not have an issue with that. The last thing anyone needed were trucks with engine issues that might spark another fire, faulty equipment, etc. to complicate matters even worse.

#93 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 03:56 PM

-You can still believe in global warming/climate change and live on the coast.

You can lie about it anywhere as well.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 04:19 PM

This has been posted at some social media sites. I haven't been able to independently verify it.

Do you know if this is true:

" They've been ordered to submit to a DOT inspection in Sacramento that's scheduled for 4:30 pm today.
If they clear the inspection, they'll THEN be able to drive 400 miles to Pacific Palisades."

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 03:39 PM | Reply

Look at Jeff desperately trying to pwn the liberals and failing badly. Even Gracie eviscerated that attempt. Funny thing that.

#95 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 04:23 PM

-It's a condition of being a human being. Just sayin

That's an excuse for anybody to be stupid.

Why does it appear to be unique to people who don't understand global warming but claim to have an informed opinion?

It's not unique to them.

#96 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 04:24 PM

You can lie about it anywhere as well.

Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 04:19 PM | Reply

"Nice" coming to Jeff's rescue too Eberly.

#97 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 04:24 PM

Eberly is Jeff's *itch.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 04:41 PM

#18 Gal has another post that did not age well. Newsom's 'site' is linked to misinformation talking points and fundraising from the DNC fundraising giant ActBlue.

#99 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 05:08 PM

OMG a politician is fund raising for a disaster. Stop the internet, gracie needs to get off.

#100 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 05:13 PM

#100 You simply can't be that stupid. No way.

#101 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 05:14 PM

Have someone read Newsom's link to you.

Then funny flag my post and ---- right off.

#102 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 05:16 PM

Calm down beanie. The FF was done before you asked for it.

#103 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 05:19 PM

She still won't understand, even if it's read to her.

#104 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 05:19 PM

BIDEN: current U.S. President (DEM).
NEWSOM: Governor of CALIF (DEM).
Majority of State Senate (over 2/3 DEM).
Majority of State House (over 2/3 DEM).
BASS: Mayor of LA (DEM).
City Council of LA (14 of 15 DEM)

Makes perfect sense to be upset with Trump for the fires.

#105 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 05:23 PM

BIDEN: current U.S. President (DEM).
NEWSOM: Governor of CALIF (DEM).
Majority of State Senate (over 2/3 DEM).
Majority of State House (over 2/3 DEM).
BASS: Mayor of LA (DEM).
City Council of LA (14 of 15 DEM)

Makes perfect sense to be upset with Trump for the fires.

#106 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 05:23 PM

Double-posting meaningless nonsense and saying it makes perfect sense. Awesome. What a reflection.

#107 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 05:41 PM

I meant to double-post that. Damn.

#108 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-12 05:41 PM

The FF was done before you asked for it.

#103 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-12 05:19 PM | Reply

It's the only semi intelligent thing you can manage here.

#109 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 05:48 PM

" Look at Jeff desperately trying to pwn the liberals and failing badly. Even Gracie eviscerated that attempt. Funny thing that.

#95 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-12 04:23 PM | FLAG: "

You have a reading comprehension problem. I asked Donnerboy if he knew whether or not it's true. That's it.

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 05:48 PM

It's a mystery why the------------- didn't slam the governor of Tennessee after the Gatlinburg fire hydrants ran dry in the wildfire that killed 14.

bsky.app

#111 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-12 05:53 PM

OMG a politician is fund raising for a disaster. Stop the internet, gracie needs to get off.
#100 | Posted by Alexandrite

The issue is he used his governor account.

Because maybe they want to protect the investments they made in their coastal properties?
Naw. That can't be it.
#84 | Posted by donnerboy

Then why did the Obama's buy coastal property?

Seems, given your logic they are exposing themselves to a loss.

#112 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 05:55 PM

Makes perfect sense to be upset with Trump for the fires.

#106 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-12 05:23 PM | Reply

I'm "upset" with the politicized BS coming out of the trumps truth social account and his fat orange mouth.

#113 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 05:55 PM

Then why did the Obama's buy coastal property?

Because it's nice?

Because they hoped people were smart enough to reduce carbon emissions in the near future?

BTW where would you like to live that doesn't have the following: Tornados, Hurricanes, Wildfires, Earthquakes, Mudslides, Flooding? Good luck.

#114 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 05:57 PM

I'm upset with his plans to make across the board federal government policies based on climate change denialism.

#115 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 06:00 PM

I'm upset with his MO of blaming the effects of weather related disasters on state and local officials but only if they are Democrats.

#116 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-12 06:03 PM

-Then why did the Obama's buy coastal property?

It's a fair question.

#117 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 06:10 PM

-BTW where would you like to live that doesn't have the following: Tornados, Hurricanes, Wildfires, Earthquakes, Mudslides, Flooding? Good luck.

Not everywhere has the same risk of those things.

Some areas have massive exposures to some of those perils.

Do you understand that?

#118 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 06:12 PM

@#112 ... Then why did the Obama's buy coastal property? ....

Maybe the better question is, why does that property look to have a substantial seawall protecting it?


#119 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 06:19 PM

I posted a link to this article a couple days ago.

Good maps in the article...

Wildfires and hurricanes could make parts of U.S. uninsurable
www.axios.com

#120 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 06:21 PM

why did the Obama's buy coastal property?

Why not?

Buying costal property and believing in climate change aren't mutually exclusive.

Fighting to slow down climate change and trying to combat climate change are worthy efforts.

I'm not expecting people to start living like the Amish just because they believe we need to find solutions to the results of industrialization and mass production.

Alternatives to plastic, reducing the need for lumber, processing byproducts of manufacturing so we're not dumping waste into our environment ...

There's things that can be done.

The notion the Obamas are hypocrites for living in costal property is a lie spread by morons like 1TRUMPSLUT because its easy to gaslight idiots with such stupid statements.

#121 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 06:29 PM

-Buying costal property and believing in climate change aren't mutually exclusive.

Depends where

#122 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 06:30 PM

Anybody who lives with a huge carbon footprint in an area vulnerable to devastating disasters is part if the problem.

Regardless of their opinion on global warming.

#123 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 06:39 PM

Maybe the better question is, why does that property look to have a substantial seawall protecting it?
#119 | Posted by LampLighter

It's not, it's an estuary.

What else does your alias have?

#124 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 06:39 PM

#120 this has been brought up by me and ignored by you on previous threads.

Why doesn't California mitigate these ?

#125 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 06:41 PM

-this has been brought up by me and ignored by you on previous threads.

Probably busy with one of his other aliases

#126 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 06:52 PM

Anybody who lives with a huge carbon footprint in an area vulnerable to devastating disasters ...

What areas aren't vulnerable to devastating disasters?

Whether is floods or tornadoes or hurricanes or earthquakes or fires or freezing, everywhere has its issues.

Fact is. Obama is being called out because Obama haters think by pointing out he's living in a costal community, it negates the threat of climate change.

It doesn't.

#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:01 PM

-What areas aren't vulnerable to devastating disasters?

So you're gonna pretend it's all equal?

You're gonna say there aren't places that are substantially more vulnerable than others?

#128 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:04 PM

-everywhere has its issues.

LOL

#129 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:06 PM

I've been living in California my whole life and never has there been a fire in the pacific palisades, let alone something like what just happened.

Are you going to pretend anyone knew such a catastrophe would occur.

Are you pretending natural devastation is just isolated to the coasts?

#130 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:07 PM

-Obama is being called out because Obama haters think by pointing out he's living in a costal community, it negates the threat of climate change.

I'm no Obama hater

#131 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:08 PM

Makes perfect sense to be upset with Trump for the fires.
#106 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Trump has used the fires to attack Democrats in the state of California.

While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.

Trump uses them to create division and instability in our society.

The man has but one objective, destroy the United States of America.

#132 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:14 PM

@#124 ... It's not, it's an estuary. ...

I asked (#119), Maybe the better question is, why does that property look to have a substantial seawall protecting it?

And the reply from your current alias is, It's not, it's an estuary.

Dodge the question much?


#133 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 07:18 PM

Obama is being called out because Obama haters think by pointing out he's living in a costal community, it negates the threat of climate change.

No ... Just refuting an argument DonnerBot made....

Because maybe they want to protect the investments they made in their coastal properties?
Naw. That can't be it.
#84 | Posted by donnerboy

Obama came up because he had no "investments" in coastal properties, then bought a very expensive, and vulnerable piece of property.

If CC is true, and only Lumpers care about it, why would he do that?

#134 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:18 PM

Dodge the question much?
#133 | Posted by LampLighter

Google earth much.

There is no sea wall, its an estuary protected by a sand dune, between it and the sea.

#135 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:19 PM

maps.app.goo.gl

#136 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:20 PM

-Are you going to pretend anyone knew such a catastrophe would occur.

Climate scientists have been tell us for a while. Specifically that area

www.aljazeera.com

-Are you pretending natural devastation is just isolated to the coasts?

The largest natural disasters in this country are probably 80+% on the coasts. Hurricanes primarily but this fire will probably make the list.

#137 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:21 PM

So you're gonna pretend it's all equal?

Only so we continue posting so he makes his troll dollars.

#138 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:21 PM

Are you going to pretend anyone knew such a catastrophe would occur.

LOL

Scientist told Mayor Bass there was a high potential of a fire.

Trump said this would happen after he came out to CA to see the devastation from a previous fire.

IOW plenty of people knew such a catastrophe would occur, but migrants were 10x more important.

#139 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:23 PM

-While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.

Agreed but did you believe that during Katrina?

#140 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:29 PM

Read your article, it make no specific mentions of that area.

It talk about Los Angeles in general and drought compared to last year.

It talks about climate change and temperatures rising.

But I read nothing that states the palisades were an area of concern.

Besides Altadena, another location in Los Angeles which has been hit very hard by fire over the past week and has caused significant loss of homes, is inland, not costal. It's not getting the attention the palisades are because it's not the uber wealthy living there.

So what about them?

I mean. Clearly no one cares. They're not rich enough to receive attention by the media.

But trust me when I say, it means a lot to people living here. These fires have burnt down homes of people we know and love.

And while this is all a bunch of hypotheticals and trolling for assh*les living in other states. It's real and painful for people living here.

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:34 PM

Agreed but did you believe that during Katrina?
#140 | POSTED BY EBERLY

When? During my presidency?

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:35 PM

I was mistaken, that was their vacation home, here is there property
ap.rdcpix.com

#143 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:35 PM

While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.

As a new comer, I have never seen this.

IMO this is how change happens, being critical. Otherwise it gets buried in reports/investigations.

AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

#144 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:36 PM

Obamas purchased home on an estuary.
maps.app.goo.gl

#145 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-12 07:37 PM

www.yahoo.com

#146 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:37 PM

"It talk about Los Angeles in general and drought compared to last year.

It talks about climate change and temperatures rising."

Yea. And since these fires are occurring in that area ... ... it's pretty much on point.

#147 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:41 PM

#146

My friend moved to Minnesota because the area he lived in was prone to wild fires and he's no climate scientist.

What's your point?

#148 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:41 PM

-When? During my presidency?

No, when you were screaming "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

#149 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:42 PM

I know you just want to bitch about Trump and I'm making that harder.

Carry on ... ...

#150 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 07:44 PM

since these fires are occurring in that area ... ... it's pretty much on point.
#147 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Considering there are wildfires in California every year?

It's almost like republicans are finally learning out about climate change since they can attack California and democrats with their new found knowledge.

#151 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:45 PM

@#135 ... There is no sea wall, its an estuary protected by a sand dune, between it and the sea. ...

Thanks for the follow-up.

The usual lack of specificity in your current alias' prior comment led me to a different Obama estate.

Obama and the Beach House Loopholes (2020)
www.propublica.org

Where there does seem to be a seawall.

OK, now that your current alias has (finally!) provided a link for what it said ...

The link of the satellite image your current alias provides seems to show a buffer zone between the water and the built-up part of the estate.

Is your current alias saying that that buffer zone is inadequate?

If so, why?


our current alias has said, it looks to be an estuary.

So, the problem is?



And, as y

#152 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 07:45 PM

#144

Wow... 1Nut has gone all Peter Theil disciple. A Chinabot Shady JD!

Let the Oligarchy Reign!

I s'pose.

#153 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-12 07:47 PM

My post:

While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.
Trump uses them to create division and instability in our society.

Eberly's response:

you were screaming "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

You really are an idiot.

#154 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:48 PM

As a new comer,
#144 | POSTED BY 1INCEL

Finally hit puberty?

#155 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:50 PM

@#144 ... As a new comer, I have never seen this. ...

'Tis a shame the person behind your current alias has never seen this.

It used to be the Country united to help those affected by such disasters.

Help those affected, first and foremost.

Then, after the immediate danger of the disaster is resolved, take a step back and look at what could be done better.

... IMO this is how change happens, being critical. ...

I do not disagree.

But at the proper time.

I will also add that "being critical" is not throwing disinformation and misinformation into the mix for political prposes, as Mr Musk and Pres-elect Trump have done.


"Being critical" is coming to the table with facts and suggestions on how to make things better.

#156 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 07:59 PM

While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.

Trump uses them to create division and instability in our society.

The man has but one objective, destroy the United States of America.

#132 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 07:14 PM | Reply

Dubya during Katrina was horrible. So much so that his parents had to go on National TV to say that their son was a Good boy and a good president. He crapped the bed horribly with his response to Hurricane Katrina.

#157 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 08:01 PM

@#150 ... I know you just want to bitch about Trump and I'm making that harder. ...

I've no clue to whom, or what comment, your comment is directed at.

But I will say, your comments here do not make it harder to ~bitch about Trump.~.

Quite the contrary, the vacuous nature of most of your comments seem to assist those who want to ~bitch about Trump.~


#158 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 08:02 PM

As someone who has been using X more often since discovering its a great source for free porn.

Their top stories are all about the fires and very critical of the democratic leadership.

So it's no surprise seeing so many Musketeers posting the same bullshht here that I see on there.

1MUSKDICKSUCKER is pretty much just copying stories form there and posting them on the DR.

#159 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 08:06 PM

"Do you know if this is true:"

I understand that is true. But I am not here to second guess hard working first responders and their decisions like you maga maroons. There will be plenty of time for that after the fires are extinguished and everyone is being helped to recover.

Then why did the Obama's buy coastal property?

Seems, given your logic they are exposing themselves to a loss.

#112 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

My logic?

Every investment comes with risks.

No risk=no reward.

#160 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-12 08:09 PM

"GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

Clownshack is Kanye West?

#161 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 08:33 PM

That clip is one of the funniest things I've seen.

The Mike Myers and Chris Tucker were left stunned.

images.app.goo.gl

#162 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 08:46 PM

You do realize that Delusional Old Joe is still Prez & Newsom is the Hollywood Guv, right?

#163 | Posted by TheMajorKong at 2025-01-12 08:50 PM

POSTED BY THEMAJORKONG

You idiots get dummer every day.

#164 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 08:54 PM

@#157 ... Dubya during Katrina was horrible. ...

Yeah, 100% agreement.

But, I will add, not because of his trying to politicize the disaster (and lying to do so), but mostly because of his ineptitude.

He seemed to be in deep water, water over his head.


#165 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:01 PM

@#164 ... You idiots get dummer every day. ...

Why the plural?

#166 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:02 PM

-you were screaming "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

You were and you know it.

You and the other dopes here. 100%

#167 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:23 PM

You were and you know it.

Eberly conflates the word of the president of the United States with the words of the people in the streets.

Because he's desperate to defend Trump's statements.

#168 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:26 PM

Just threw in the towel ... ..poor thing.

#169 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:30 PM

Just threw in the towel ...
#169 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You sure did.

#170 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:32 PM

@#168 ... Eberly conflates the word of the president of the United States with the words of the people in the streets. ...

I remain to be convinced even that is accurate.

... Because he's desperate to defend Trump's statements. ...

That's the way it seems.

But, the problem for that alias that I see is that the comments posted by that alias are so irrelevant that they actually try to degrade the opinion it seems to be trying to proffer.

Yeah, try to.

Has that alias become an ironic alias?

#171 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:33 PM

Clown has called every republican in the country a racist.

But in a pathetic effort to make trump different, he says this ...

"While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.
Trump uses them to create division and instability in our society."

Trump probably is different but you're the last poster on this place to see that.

Every republican in this country is a white hood wearing KKK member, according to the clown

#172 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:34 PM

-Because he's desperate to defend Trump's statements.

You KNOW you're lying.

#173 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:36 PM

you were screaming "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

You were and you know it.

You and the other dopes here. 100%

Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:23 PM | Reply

Unless Clownshack had a previous handle. He couldn't have made any statements here. He joined in 2008. Hurricane Katrina happened in 2005.

OOPSIE DAISY

#174 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 09:38 PM

The fact I pointed out in cases of crisis and tragedy Presidents try to unite the nation seems to have really thrown sand in Eberly's gash.

What a cranky *itch he is.

#175 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:40 PM

@#172 ... Clown has called every republican in the country a racist. ...

Got a quote?


#176 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:40 PM

@#173 ... You KNOW you're lying. ...

Interesting that your current alias seem to know what I do and do not know.


Here's a hint: it doesn't.

#177 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:41 PM

"OOPSIE DAISY"

Could you be any more gay?

And I didn't say he said it here.

He knows I'm right.

#178 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:43 PM

-The fact I pointed out in cases of crisis and tragedy Presidents try to unite the nation seems to have really thrown sand in Eberly's gash.

Because you're lying. You don't believe any such thing.

You can't believe all republicans are racist and then assign "try to unite" BS

You lie so much you can't keep up.

#179 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:46 PM

Let be honest.

To assume anything I say has the same significance as what the President of the United States says is absurd.

But it's what Eberly feels he has to do in order to defend Trump.

Even if it's bringing up what people said in 2005 in response to the federal government's response to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

It's the same as Trump spending every moment since the fires started attacking California, democrats, the victims, and anyone else he could.

#180 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:46 PM

So when you scream "all republicans are racist" you're just begging for attention?

You're not serious?

#181 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:47 PM

-Let be honest.

Can you?

There is zero evidence of that.

#182 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:48 PM

OOPSIE DAISY"

Could you be any more gay?

And I didn't say he said it here.

He knows I'm right.

Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:43 PM | Reply

You were screaming "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"

You were and you know it.

You and the other dopes here. 100%

Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:23 PM | Reply

OOPSIE DAISY HONEY

#183 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 09:50 PM

Because you're lying.

Then it should be easy for you to prove I'm lying.

Name a president who has used a tragedy to attack the other party.

Obama? BushJr? Clinton? BushSr? Reagan? Carter? Someone before him?

You're so desperate to have a point you're not even reading my post. Just attacking, because you don't have anything else to say.

#184 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:51 PM

Someone help poor Laura.

#185 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:51 PM

Oh yea. I forgot Biden.

Did Biden use the hurricanes to attack DeSantis or the governor of North Carolina?

#186 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:52 PM

Laura is doing just fine feeding you your horse shht.

#187 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:53 PM

" No risk=no reward.
#160 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2025-01-12 08:09 PM | FLAG: "

But what is being harped on is rising sea levels due to land ice melting. That is supposedly baked into the cake with coastal property. Yet, no apparent concern by the rich lefties who own coastal property.

#188 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 09:55 PM

Eberly.

You should go ask your wife to wipe the sand out of your swollen gash and then go to sleep.

You're clearly not having a good day.

#189 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:56 PM

"Name a president who has used a tragedy to attack the other party. "

I'm talking about YOUR accusations and beliefs about GOP leaders.

You're trying to separate trump from them.

In reality, to you, they aren't different.

#190 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:57 PM

" Did Biden use the hurricanes to attack DeSantis or the governor of North Carolina?
#186 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-01-12 09:52 PM | FLAG: ".

Everyone was chomping at the bit to go after DeSantis after every hurricane. Problem is, he and his team are really good at disaster management. So, kinda makes that difficult.

#191 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 09:58 PM

@#182 ... Can you? ...

At his point, I have to ask if your current alias, and its apparent new-found excitement in participating on this most august board (replacing the Bellringer alias?) can show what it posts are not lies.

... There is zero evidence of that. ...

I also, at this point, remain to be convinced that your current alias would know evidence if it had walked into a brick wall of it.


But keep posting.

Your current alias provides humor here.


#192 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:58 PM

"You should go ask your wife ... ."

Wow ... ... you're hurt. You're bleeding.

I mean ... ..are you not getting enough ----?

#193 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 09:58 PM

@#190 ... "Name a president who has used a tragedy to attack the other party. "

I'm talking about YOUR accusations and beliefs about GOP leaders. ...

So, when asked a simple question, the answer is ... wait for it ...

A deflection and a non-answer.

#194 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 10:00 PM

-Yet, no apparent concern by the rich lefties who own coastal property.

Nope

#195 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:00 PM

"Laura is doing just fine"

Laura is so ------ dumb she can't figure out when I said "you screamed" it means you screamed it here.

I know when Katrina was

I also know there is zero chance you weren't screaming it.

#196 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:03 PM

Everyone was chomping at the bit to go after DeSantis after every hurricane.
#191 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It's amazing.

It's so difficult for you Deplorable Trumpers to just admit he's a piece of shht.

Even when the statement is as simple as:

"While every other president in my life time, and I'd wager everyone's lifetime, has tried their best to bring Americans together during times of crisis and tragedy.
Trump uses them to create division and instability in our society."

Your only response is to attack me or bring up "everyone".

#197 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:06 PM

-It's so difficult for you Deplorable Trumpers to just admit he's a piece of shht.

I can concede that anytime.

I just look for something more interesting to discuss than to bitch about trump.

This is the 600,000th thread about it.

You have 600,000 more coming.

#198 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:09 PM

Yet, no apparent concern by the rich lefties who own coastal property.
#188 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

This is such a partisan issue for you, you can't even fathom how many Trump voters lived in the Palisades.

#199 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:10 PM

But what is being harped on is rising sea levels due to land ice melting. That is supposedly baked into the cake with coastal property. Yet, no apparent concern by the rich lefties who own coastal property.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 09:55 PM | Reply

You can be greatly concerned about Climate Change and still at the same time live on the coast. You have to weigh the risks and the rewards by doing so. If I were wealthy. I'd live off-grid in a long cabin in the mountains even with my poor health conditions. It's about living one's life to the fullest with full knowledge of the risks.

#200 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 10:10 PM

"attack me"

-----

#201 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:11 PM

"You can be greatly concerned about Climate Change, or pretend to be, and at the same time live on the coast."

FT

#202 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:13 PM

Laura is so ------ dumb she can't figure out when I said "you screamed" it means you screamed it here.

I know when Katrina was

I also know there is zero chance you weren't screaming it.

Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:03 PM | Reply

This from the guy who took issue with me when I declared that Jeff supported the Patriot Act and I didn't and you asked here and I told you yes and showed you proof of that. I did and you took issue with the fact that it was in 2005 and you complained about it not happening when it first occurred but later. It's the same issue here. Just sayin

#203 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 10:18 PM

-----
#201 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eat me.

#204 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:19 PM

Mike Myers

I thought Myers and Tucker handled that really well.

#205 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:19 PM

If you're not Amish, you don't care about climate change.
-Eberly

#206 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:20 PM

You can say a lot about George W Bush, but I don't think "he doesn't care about black people" is one of them.

#207 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:20 PM

Myers and Tucker handled that really well.
#205 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Hahaha!

I mean. Mayer was speechless and Tucker's eyes were popping out of his head.

But agreed. They handled it as best as they could.

#208 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:22 PM

You can say a lot about George W Bush, but I don't think "he doesn't care about black people" is one of them.

I remember it.

There were people stranded on their rooftops for days before they were rescued.

In response, people were saying it was because BushJr didn't care about black people. But in reality it was because they were poor.

In November there was a fire in Ventura county that burnt 20 thousand acres and hundreds of buildings, but it got zero attention.

There are currently 4 other fires burning in Los Angeles county, the Altadena fire has been devastating, but we're all talking about the one in the Palisades, along the coast.

Because it affects rich people.

#209 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:32 PM

Everyone was chomping at the bit to go after DeSantis after every hurricane.
#191 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

DeSantis's problem is with the first amendment. He keeps violating it.

#210 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:34 PM

In response, people were saying it was because BushJr didn't care about black people. But in reality it was because they were poor.

He put Brownie in charge, a horse judge. That, IMHO, was the issue. I think W genuinely does care about Americans, but not Iraqis...

#211 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:35 PM

@#209 ... but we're all talking about the one in the Palisades, ...

I have been talking about the fires in the LA area, not any specific fire.

#212 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 10:36 PM

There are currently 4 other fires burning in Los Angeles county, the Altadena fire has been devastating, but we're all talking about the one in the Palisades, along the coast.

Because it affects rich people.

#209 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:32 PM | Reply | Flag

I can't disagree.

#213 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:36 PM

-In response, people were saying it was because BushJr didn't care about black people.

Reagan, bush sr and jr ... ..all of them were racists.

Evil evil evil men.

Now? It all softens ... ...

#214 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-12 10:41 PM

I think W genuinely does care about Americans, but not Iraqis...
#211 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Despite everything I disliked about BushJr.

There was never a point I felt like he was attacking America.

Despite everything I've heard about Reagan, I never heard he tried to tear this nation apart.

I've never heard of republican presidents attacking states or individuals or Americans.

They've always seemed to be above such behavior.

At least publicly.

#215 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 10:45 PM

He put Brownie in charge, a horse judge. That, IMHO, was the issue. I think W genuinely does care about Americans, but not Iraqis...

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 10:35 PM | Reply

Brown did a great job warning Dubya about the pending devastation of Hurricane Katrina it was Dubya who acted blase about the information provided to him by Brown. I'll see if I can find the video of the exchange.

#216 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 10:47 PM

I have been talking about the fires in the LA area, not any specific fire.
#212 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Wasn't trying to call out anyone specifically.

It's just all the "fire hydrants are out of water" and "why isn't anyone using ocean water" and "what about the reservoir" are all specific to the Palisades fire.

Also. The winds on the first night were so strong firefighters ouldnt do anything. But now, instead of focusing on the fire and helping people, there also all this attention being placed on who to blame.

It's ridiculous.

#217 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 11:00 PM

FOUND IT ALEXANDRITE

newsroom.ap.org

#218 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 11:10 PM

" DeSantis's problem is with the first amendment. He keeps violating it.

#210 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-12 10:34 PM | FLAG: "

When has that happened?

#219 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 11:11 PM

www.nytimes.com

Dealing a blow to Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a federal court of appeals on Wednesday ruled that he had violated First Amendment protections when he suspended a progressive state prosecutor for political gain.

#220 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 11:40 PM

And another:

whdh.com

New York (CNN) " "To keep it simple for the State of Florida: it's the First Amendment, stupid."

That's what a federal judge wrote Thursday as he sided with local TV stations in an extraordinary dispute over a pro-abortion rights television ad.

Chief U.S. District Judge Mark E. Walker of the Northern District of Florida granted a temporary restraining order against Florida's surgeon general after the state health department threatened to bring criminal charges against broadcasters airing the ad.

The controversy stems from a campaign ad by the group Floridians Protecting Freedom, which is behind the "Yes on 4 Campaign," promoting a ballot measure that seeks to overturn Florida's six-week abortion ban by enshrining abortion rights in the state constitution.

In the 30-second ad, a brain cancer survivor named Caroline says the state law would have prevented her from receiving a life-saving abortion.

"The doctors knew that if I did not end my pregnancy, I would lose my baby, I would lose my life, and my daughter would lose her mom," she says on camera. "Florida has now banned abortions, even in cases like mine."

The state health department " part of Gov. Ron DeSantis's administration, which has aggressively campaigned against the pro-abortion amendment " said the ad's claims are "false" and "dangerous" to the public health.

John Wilson, the health department's general counsel, sent cease-and-desist letters to multiple television stations airing the ad. Floridians Protecting Freedom then filed a lawsuit against Wilson and the state's surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, saying the threats amounted to "unconstitutional coercion and viewpoint discrimination" and pressed the court to bar the state from following up on threats to sue.

On Thursday, the judge agreed the health department's threats were "viewpoint discrimination" and wrote that the group presented "a substantial likelihood of proving an ongoing violation of its First Amendment rights through the threatened direct penalization of its political speech."

#221 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 11:42 PM

And more:

www.thefire.org

The Florida legislature has once again chosen to limit its citizens' free speech rights " this time by passing House Bill 3, which severely restricts Floridians' access to websites and content on the internet.

and yet another example:

www.theguardian.com

In a scathing ruling released late on Monday, a three-judge panel of the 11th circuit appeals court in Atlanta blasted DeSantis's 2022 Stop Woke Act " which banned employers from providing mandatory workplace diversity training, or from teaching that any person is inherently racist or sexist " as "the greatest first amendment sin".

The judges upheld a lower court's ruling that the law violated employers' constitutional rights to freedom of speech and expression. They were also critical of DeSantis for "exceeding the bounds" of the US constitution by imposing political ideology through legislation.

And we haven't even started on DeSantis punishing Disney because they are pro gay and he isn't.

#222 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-12 11:47 PM

@#217 ... It's just all the "fire hydrants are out of water" and "why isn't anyone using ocean water" and "what about the reservoir" are all specific to the Palisades fire. ...

Maybe one reason for not using the ocean water is ...

Two More CL-415 Super Scoopers On The Way To Fight Palisades Fire After One Damaged By Drone
www.twz.com

... Officials hope the aircraft hit by the drone will be repaired and ready to fly again early next week.

Cal Fire will receive two more CL-415 Super Scoopers from a Canadian non-profit to replace the one damaged Thursday by a drone strike as it was fighting the Palisades Fire, The War Zone has learned. This will take the total force of Super Scoopers currently available to Cal Fire from one to three. In addition, it is hoped that the aircraft, which has a hole in its left wing, will be back on line by early next week. The appearance of the drone in the firefighting area, despite restrictions, temporarily grounded all firefighting aircraft working that fire, as The War Zone was the first to report.

"The new planes will be sent in the middle of next week if the weather is good for flying," Stephane Caron, spokesman for the Quebec-based SOPFEU non-profit, told us on Friday. At issue, he said, are the winds and snow often present in Canada during this time of year that can often keep aircraft grounded. The organization has eight CL-415s and six older CL-215s, Caron explained. ...


#223 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 11:55 PM

@#217 ... But now, instead of focusing on the fire and helping people, there also all this attention being placed on who to blame.

It's ridiculous. ...

I do not disagree.

#224 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 11:56 PM

@#223 ... Cal Fire will receive two more CL-415 Super Scoopers from a Canadian non-profit ...

And, fwiw, major thanks to Canada, our long-time friend to the north.

#225 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 11:59 PM

You mean our 51st state?

#226 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 12:00 AM

The appearance of the drone in the firefighting area, despite restrictions

Speaking of people that should be executed.

#227 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-13 12:00 AM

And, fwiw, major thanks to Canada, our long-time friend to the north.

Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 11:59 PM | Reply

I just hope that won't be permanently ruined after Trump leaves office.

#228 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-13 12:01 AM

Alexandrite.

Interesting and thanks for sharing. I'll pore through all of it tomorrow. Watching a short movie and then going to bed.

#229 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-13 12:10 AM

only the 5th example (disney) was thrown out of court.

#230 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-13 12:13 AM

@#227 ... Speaking of people that should be executed. ...

Executed?

That's a bit harsh.

Jail time?

Yeah, I'd go with that for such an apparently stupid act.


#231 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-13 12:45 AM

That's a bit harsh.

Discuss that with the pilot that had a hole punched in his wing by the drone. As if aerial fire drops don't have enough issues to begin with.

#232 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-13 01:33 AM

@#232 ... Discuss that with the pilot that had a hole punched in his wing by the drone. As if aerial fire drops don't have enough issues to begin with. ...

Thanks for providing more context.

Did that pilot live to talk about it?

If yes, I stand by my comment.

What I see...

FBI working to piece together drone that damaged super scooper while battling Palisades Fire
abc7news.com

... The FBI released new photos of a damaged water-dropping super scooper firefighting aircraft that collided with a drone over the Palisades Fire.

According to officials, the plane collided with a privately-owned drone, causing significant damage to it. The drone put a 3x6 hole in the aircraft, causing a 20- to 30-minute delay in the aerial firefight.
FBI

"I'd just like to stress, that technique, using that super scooper aircraft, are our most effective technique to fight fires like this, and when this happens, it puts everybody's lives at risk," said Akil Davis, the assistant director in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles Field Office.

The low-flying, surface-skimming planes dip into the water before dumping its contents over blazing wildfires. As the wind-driven fires continue across Southern California, officials are pleading with people to not fly drones over wildfire-ravaged areas.

"Our biggest concern is that there are so many unauthorized drones in the area that they are impacting law enforcement and firefighters' efforts to suppress this fire and actually get it contained," said Davis.

Temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) are put in place by the FAA to alert pilots of areas of restricted air travel due to a hazardous condition, a special event, or a general warning for the entire FAA airspace.

TFRs are currently in place over the Palisades and Eaton fires, allowing firefighting aircraft the airspace they need. They apply to all aircraft, including drones.

Drone videos of destroyed neighborhoods are spreading over social media, despite the threat of jail time.

"We'll work backwards through investigative means to try and recreate that drone and figure out what company owns that drone and who it was assigned to," said Davis. ...


... as if the great people of that area do not currently have enough issues to deal with, now there are drones apparently taking down defensive aircraft..



#233 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-13 01:45 AM

Re 232
One place I read that the pilot didn't know that he had hit a drone.

#234 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-01-13 02:43 AM

Re 232
One place I read that the pilot didn't know that he had hit a drone.

#235 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-01-13 02:43 AM

@#234 ... One place I read that the pilot didn't know that he had hit a drone. ...

Was that an X blurb?

#236 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-13 03:13 AM

I don't think it was, i don't spend much time on X. It may have been a comment on YouTube, an equally trustworthy source.

#237 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2025-01-13 05:07 AM

Did that pilot live to talk about it?

16 people have died. Did the drone taking this plane out of commission contribute to any of those deaths?

#238 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-13 09:08 AM

"Trump has a lengthy record on recommendations to Newsom about how to properly address the fire issue. This will lie at Newsom's feet when it's all said and done. Unless he does an about face it's over for him nationally."

#10 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

How to address the "fire issue" is to quit burning so much oil, gas and coal. I cannot believe so many Trumpanzees are just so damn stupid on all issues. I have numerous friends that are fire fighters and a couple that work for the National Park Service and the Forest Service. They spend weeks thinning out ravines and canyon areas of growth and told me that your fat orange pig woman raping daughter lusting grifting traitor underfunded their efforts by 40% when he was last in office. So, there's that. Also, California does not own the giant vast tracks of federal land that has the biggest fires so why do you expect them to fight the fires for the US federal government if they have no cash to do so?

#239 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-01-13 09:16 AM

Yet, no apparent concern by the rich lefties who own coastal property.

#188 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Did you actually ask any "rich lefty" who owns costal property if they were concerned or did you just pull that little gem out of your maga arse?

#240 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-13 09:24 AM

How to address the "fire issue" is to quit burning so much oil, gas and coal

This won't solve it. WildFires cause more CO2 burn than all of CA efforts.
What else do you have Wildman? Because the facts clearly aren't on your side.

One place I read that the pilot didn't know that he had hit a drone. ...

This is likely true. The hole was in the leading edge of the wing.


The appearance of the drone in the firefighting area, despite restrictions
Speaking of people that should be executed.
#227 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Canada laws are different than US laws.

They are investigating it, there is a possibility it was a CalFire drone.


DeSantis's problem is with the first amendment. He keeps violating it.
#210 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-12 10:34 PM | FLAG:

This is well known, just DeSantis going after Disney is a violation. Using the Government to support/create culture is a First Amendment issue.

#241 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-13 09:35 AM


Did you actually ask any "rich lefty" who owns costal property if they were concerned or did you just pull that little gem out of your maga arse?
#240 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Yes I have. Thanks for asking.

#242 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-13 09:36 AM

Wildfires are erasing California's climate gains, research shows
news.uchicago.edu

Climate Change, its not just about oil, its about cement, and wildfires too.

#243 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-13 09:58 AM

3000 folks were killed in Puerto Rico during Hurricane Maria and the------------- responded by tossing paper towels to the peasants.

#244 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-13 10:15 AM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

wow....and here I thought the thread about 'how to survive ..the loss of democracy was a "pathetically stupid"

thread ".......

"you people" are out of your f /g minds.....certifiably nuts.

#245 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-01-13 10:44 AM

3000 folks were killed in Puerto Rico during Hurricane Maria and the------------- responded by tossing paper towels to the peasants.

#244 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Blue California getting anything they need....and that's okay.

people in North Carolina still in fema trailers with no heat.....you remember them and others like them....don't you ?

---the people with trump signs in their yards ?

--take you FAKE moral outrage and suck it.

#246 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-01-13 10:47 AM

The racist orange pedo celebrated his massive Puerto Rican body count.

#247 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-13 10:51 AM

Everyone was chomping at the bit to go after DeSantis after every hurricane. Problem is, he and his team are really good at disaster management. So, kinda makes that difficult.

#191 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 09:58 PM | Reply | Flag: BS LEVEL AT 11

#248 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-01-13 11:53 AM

Trump doesn't have the knowledge necessary to understand fire mitigation you ignorant buffoon. Get real. He's an idiot that you voted for. I should feel sorry for you but I don't.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-12 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

The present situation shows that Trump, or in fact anyone else but Newsom and his merry band of DEI hires, has a better understanding of fire mitigation. I wouldn't be calling anyone else an ignorant buffoon when you're defending the California leadership.

#249 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-01-13 02:48 PM

The present situation shows that Trump, or in fact anyone else but Newsom and his merry band of DEI hires, has a better understanding of fire mitigation. I wouldn't be calling anyone else an ignorant buffoon when you're defending the California leadership.

#249 | Posted by fishpaw

Everyone gather round! The party that calls climate change a hoax is going to teach us about fire mitigation. Next they can tell us how to stop hurricane swells.

#250 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-13 05:44 PM

Blue California getting anything they need....and that's okay.

people in North Carolina still in fema trailers with no heat.....you remember them and others like them....don't you ?

---the people with trump signs in their yards ?

--take you FAKE moral outrage and suck it.

#246 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Climate change deniers don't deserve any help after climate change disasters.

Just like smokers don't deserve any health coverage for lung cancer.

#251 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-13 05:45 PM

One group denies the existence of climate change. Another group accepts climate change as their lord and savior. What ya gonna do?

Remember Anne Frank was a Belieber.

#252 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-01-13 05:55 PM

One group denies the existence of climate change. Another group accepts climate change as their lord and savior. What ya gonna do?

#252 | Posted by sentinel

Well at least you got half right. That's way more than usual.

#253 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-13 05:56 PM

Swastika boy mentioning Anne Frank as a joke makes me puke in my soup.

#254 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-13 06:10 PM

Climate change deniers don't deserve any help after climate change disasters.

Just like smokers don't deserve any health coverage for lung cancer.

Posted by SpeakSoftly

This is why I can't tell the difference between speak and donner.

they're the same idiot posting nonsense then complaining when they read it posted by someone else.

just yesterday in fact. How can anybody put strings on aid? How do you know someone is a climate change denier? blah blah blah.....

well....I think anybody who lives along the coast is probably a climate change denier. They might claim otherwise....but they're really full of ----.

like almost anybody who lives in an area where wildfires are burning all the time.......

#255 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 06:25 PM

-One group denies the existence of climate change. Another group accepts climate change as their lord and savior. What ya gonna do?

ridicule them both.

#256 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-13 06:26 PM

---- off you filthy MAGAT ----

#257 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-13 07:21 PM

just yesterday in fact. How can anybody put strings on aid? How do you know someone is a climate change denier? blah blah blah.....

well....I think anybody who lives along the coast is probably a climate change denier. They might claim otherwise....but they're really full of ----.

like almost anybody who lives in an area where wildfires are burning all the time.......

#255 | Posted by eberly

I didn't say to put any strings on anything. I talked about what someone DESERVES. Like morally. Karmically. Ethically.

Climate change denier electing morons are the reason this problem is going to get so much worse. And now they're sick enough to blame the other party for what the other party was warning was going to happen decades ago.

It's even worse than the republicans who try to blame the iraq war on democrats.

#258 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-13 08:13 PM

I think anybody who lives along the coast is probably a climate change denier.

You're entitled to your opinion.

But a lot of climate change activists who are wealthy live wherever they want.

Again. Combating climate change doesn't mean you have to become Amish.

Being an activist means you try to pass laws that everyone hates like paper straws.

I hate paper straws.

Oops. I meant.

Being an activist means you try to pass laws to regulate industry and help slow climate change.

The problem is. Unless China and India also follow suit. None of it really matters.

America is actually doing a good job at combatting climate change.

#259 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 10:04 PM

Trump is living rent free in you loony lib's heads.
Watching this insanity spread is better than any paid streaming show

#260 | Posted by TheMajorKong at 2025-01-14 12:22 AM

Trump remains a threat to this Nation.

#261 | Posted by YAV at 2025-01-14 08:57 AM

Trump is living rent free in you loony lib's heads.
Watching this insanity spread is better than any paid streaming show

#260 | Posted by TheMajorKong

Who won the 2020 election?

#262 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-14 01:00 PM

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