Sunday, January 12, 2025

Biden Calls for Immediate Ceasefire in Netanyahu Call

U.S. President Joe Biden spoke on Sunday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the White House said, as U.S. officials race to reach a Gaza hostage and ceasefire deal before Biden leaves office on Jan. 20. Biden and Netanyahu discussed efforts underway to reach a deal to halt the fighting in the Palestinian enclave and free the remaining hostages there, the White House said in a statement after the two leaders spoke by telephone.

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... Biden "stressed the immediate need for a ceasefire in Gaza and return of the hostages with a surge in humanitarian aid enabled by a stoppage in the fighting under the deal," it said.

Netanyahu updated Biden on progress in the talks and on the mandate he has given his top-level security delegation now in Doha in order to advance a hostage deal, Netanyahu said in a statement.

The two leaders also discussed "the fundamentally changed regional circumstances following the ceasefire deal in Lebanon, the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, and the weakening of Iran's power in the region," the White House said.

Biden's national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN's "State of the Union" program earlier on Sunday that the parties were "very, very close" to reaching a deal, but still had to get it across the finish line.

He said Biden was getting daily updates on the talks in Doha, where Israeli and Palestinian officials have said since Thursday that some progress has been made in the indirect talks between Israel and militant group Hamas. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 02:42 PM

Sure, Bibi will get right on that. Just before Trump and the GOP take complete control and give Israel the go ahead to unleash the dogs on Hamas.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-12 09:14 PM

Actions speak louder than words.

Jan 4, 2025 2:25 PM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) - The State Department has informed Congress of a planned $8 billion weapons sale to Israel, U.S. officials say, as the American ally presses forward with its war against Hamas in Gaza.

www.pbs.org

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:21 PM

Trump and the GOP take complete control and give Israel the go ahead to unleash the dogs on Hamas.
#2 | POSTED BY CENSORED

If 15 months of nonstop bombing and killing Palestinians in Gaza hasn't eliminated Hamas, nothing will until the last Palestinian is dead

Which, has been the plan all along.

Hell awaits you for all the death and misery you cheer for.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:24 PM

@#3 ... Actions speak louder than words. ...

Yup.

I am surprised that the US has given as much support to Israel to this point as it has done.

A carrot and stick approach?

I wish i knew.

All I do know is that the Middle East is a mess (has been for decades [centuries?]), and I doubt if it will become any less of a mess in the foreseeable future.

So, anything the US can do to bring down the temperature of that region is ~a move in the right direction~ for me.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 09:26 PM

America supporting Israel isn't really surprising.

Britain and America helped found Israel.

Israeli lobbyists dump millions into our federal government buying votes and politicians.

It would be more surprising for America to sit back and allow a war in the Middle East to occur without contributing to it.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 09:31 PM

Censored beat me to it.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-12 10:02 PM

Hell awaits you for all the death and misery you cheer for.

Is hell awaiting for those who started this? Is it waiting for the ones who raped and murdered their way through a peace festival?

Is hell waiting for those who routinely chant and yell at pro Palestinian rallies?

Genuinely interested in your response.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-12 10:07 PM

The answer to your first two questions is, yes.

The answer to your third question I can't provide. It's too vague.

Censored has stated he takes pleasure in the death of Palestinians.

So I judge him based on his statement.

I don't view the conflict between Palestine and Israel as a war between two nations. Palestine isn't a nation. It's a territory occupied by Palestine. The reaction to October 7th is unprecedented and has been on going for 15 months.

Israel didn't negotiate for its hostages. It didn't target Hamas in Gaza but instead has been indiscriminately killing everyone. It has made bigger advances by strategically killing the heads of Hamas in Qatar and the leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon that all the mass casualties it's created since October 7th.

Had Israel approached this differently it would have been better.

But I do believe the end game for all of this is no more territories, Gaza or the West Bank. And just a unified nation of Israel.

History booos won't mention the Palestinians. Much in the same way they don't mention the native Americans.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 11:19 PM

@#4 ... If 15 months of nonstop bombing and killing Palestinians in Gaza hasn't eliminated Hamas, nothing will until the last Palestinian is dead ..

This is not a year or two or three or four thing.

It is a decades, and possibly centuries, thing that needs to be resolved.

Unless, and until, you understand that, you will not understand the needs that have to be met to resolve this current Mid-East war.

Many people look at this as a religious thing.

I look at it as a water thing.



#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-12 11:36 PM

Trust me.

I've repeatedly stated this didn't start on October 7, 2023.

The conflict mostly resumes because the Palestinians have never been handed their own nation and have always been under the occupation of the Israelis.

There can never be peace in such a situation.

But. I don't believe that was ever considered.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-12 11:55 PM

@#11 ... Trust me. ...

Why?

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-13 12:29 AM

Don't.

Your option.

No skin off my teeth.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 01:27 AM

I voted for Biden twice, even though I heard his call to support Israeli Zionism as being pure, unmasked hate against the Palestinian people. I just hoped, somehow that a miracle would happen and out of the chaos a Palestinian State might somehow emerge. Now I see that that hope was idiocy.
Israel is an apartheid nation, keeping millions of Palestinians imprisoned inside apartmentheid open air jails called the Occupied Territories. There is no hope for them when the US pays for the war against them supplies the bombs...I will never again vote for a Democrat who doesn't clearly support the idea of a Palestinian State.

#14 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-01-13 06:53 AM

I will never again vote for a Democrat who doesn't clearly support the idea of a Palestinian State.
#14 | Posted by Hughmass

#15 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 07:58 AM

Censored is a one trick pony. That's sad

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-13 08:06 AM

Censored is a one trick pony. That's sad
#16 | Posted by LauraMohr

Just keeping my eye on the ball. That ball being what helps the GOP destroy every progressive policy our government has enacted in the last 100 years. And to sabotage our elections to make sure we can never put them back into place in the next sixty years.

Remember to vote Jill Stein 2028! I'm sure that trick will work wonders for you, the Palestinians, the Ukrainians, the poor, etc...

#17 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 08:24 AM

Censored is a one trick pony. That's sad
#16 | Posted by LauraMohr

I doubt it is the principle source of his revenue.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-13 08:27 AM

In other news:

Idaho Republicans file resolution to repeal marriage equality
Idaho Republican legislators have introduced a resolution on Tuesday urging the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 decision that established marriage equality nationwide.

The measure, House Joint Memorial 1, claims the Supreme Court overstepped its authority by requiring states to recognize same-sex marriages. It also calls for a return to the so-called "natural definition" of marriage as between one man and one woman, a concept supporters insist is rooted in tradition.
www.advocate.com

But yes, let's punish the only sane party for not ending millenia of Middle East discord. Because it's not like we have any pressing interests we need to protect in our own nation.

#19 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 08:31 AM

Some of you have a strange affinity for Jill Stein.

forward.com

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-13 09:28 AM

" The conflict mostly resumes because the Palestinians have never been handed their own nation and have always been under the occupation of the Israelis."

Your grasp of history is shallow. They've been around a lot longer than the Israeli state and were treat r worse by Egypt and Jordan than they've been treated by Israel.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-13 12:34 PM

It's worse than just a genocide.

We allegedly have some form of contact being expressed, possibly by extra-terrestrial species and Biden makes taxpayers feed the Zionist war machine another 7 billion.

Palestine coverage and the drone observations are not taken seriously.

That should terrify everyone, imo.

#22 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 02:24 PM

We allegedly have some form of contact being expressed, possibly by extra-terrestrial species and Biden makes taxpayers feed the Zionist war machine another 7 billion. Palestine coverage and the drone observations are not taken seriously. That should terrify everyone, imo.
#22 | Posted by redlightrobot

You certainly are a multi-layered onion of conspiracy theories. At least you're consistent.

#23 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 02:29 PM

We allegedly have some form of contact being expressed, possibly by extra-terrestrial species and Biden makes taxpayers feed the Zionist war machine another 7 billion. Palestine coverage and the drone observations are not taken seriously. That should terrify everyone, imo.
#22 | Posted by redlightrobot
You certainly are a multi-layered onion of conspiracy theories. At least you're consistent.
#23 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 02:29 PM

Unfortunately, so are you.

The drones are still coming out at night all over the planet.

Dismissing that is the conspiracy, just like the lack of honesty regarding the destruction of Palestine, invasion of Lebanon and Syria.

IF that means "first contact" then Biden is doing it wrong and will be remembered for these two massive cover-ups should we survive.

Imo.

#24 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 02:50 PM

They've been around a lot longer than the Israeli state and were treat r worse by Egypt and Jordan than they've been treated by Israel.
#21 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're actually admitting Palestine has been there longer than Israel?

Be careful who you say that to.

The narrative is, nothing was there before Israel.

Which is what justifies the treatment of the Palestinians.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 02:55 PM

Idaho Republicans file resolution to repeal marriage equality

More from the article in post #19:

"This cruel action by Idaho Republicans amounts to nothing more than shouting at the wind. A majority of Americans of all political affiliations support marriage equality. Resolutions are not laws, and state legislatures lack the power to dismantle marriage equality. They cannot touch the guaranteed federal protections for same-sex couples under the Respect for Marriage Act."

The Respect for Marriage Act passed in 2022 and signed by President Joe Biden that December, requires federal recognition of same-sex marriages and provides additional safeguards, even if a future Supreme Court revisits Obergefell.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 03:00 PM

The drones are still coming out at night all over the planet.
And they will continue doing so. As long as drones cost about $50 and people have more time than they know what to do with and easy access to beer.

Dismissing that is the conspiracy, just like the lack of honesty regarding the destruction of Palestine, invasion of Lebanon and Syria.
I thought you assured us that Israel would lose after the Palestinians raped and murdered 1,200 Israeli civilian men, women, and children a little over a year ago? Had a change of heart?

And I'm not denying anything about Lebanon or Syria. HizzBawlzOff chucked 8,000 rockets at Israel, and I'm supposed to be sad that Israel defended itself? And the Palestinians still exist. Probably a few thousand more than a year ago, actually.

If that means "first contact" then Biden is doing it wrong and will be remembered for these two massive cover-ups should we survive. Imo.
#24 | Posted by redlightrobot

First contact with drunk yahoos who had $50 to rub together. I hope that they find humans worthy of their company.

#27 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:06 PM

"The drones are still coming out at night all over the planet."
And they will continue doing so. As long as drones cost about $50 and people have more time than they know what to do with and easy access to beer.
"Dismissing that is the conspiracy, just like the lack of honesty regarding the destruction of Palestine, invasion of Lebanon and Syria."
I thought you assured us that Israel would lose after the Palestinians raped and murdered 1,200 Israeli civilian men, women, and children a little over a year ago? Had a change of heart?
And I'm not denying anything about Lebanon or Syria. HizzBawlzOff chucked 8,000 rockets at Israel, and I'm supposed to be sad that Israel defended itself? And the Palestinians still exist. Probably a few thousand more than a year ago, actually.
"If that means "first contact" then Biden is doing it wrong and will be remembered for these two massive cover-ups should we survive. Imo.
#24 | Posted by redlightrobot"
First contact with drunk yahoos who had $50 to rub together. I hope that they find humans worthy of their company.
#27 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:06 PM

Ignorant.

Thoughtless.

Dismissive.

#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:18 PM

Biden's support for Israel's genocide is WHY we're going to have to deal with the orange menace again.

If he had called for an immediate ceasefire over a year ago and cut off all weapons supplied to the perpetrators, he'd have been reelected without question. He wouldn't have even had to drop out.

But no. Instead of preserving democracy in America, he thought he had to support genocide and apartheid by Israel. Unbelievably stupid.

#29 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-01-13 03:19 PM

If he had called for an immediate ceasefire over a year ago and cut off all weapons supplied to the perpetrators, he'd have been reelected without question. He wouldn't have even had to drop out.
#29 | Posted by DarkVader

Because abandoning Israel wouldn't have cost Biden any votes or resulted in more votes for Trump. OK.

#30 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:23 PM

Ignorant.
Thoughtless.
Dismissive.
#28 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

And those are his best attributes.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 03:24 PM

@DarkVader

Let me expand slightly on what would have happened if Biden attacked Israel:
"Why do Joe Biden and Kamala Harris support terrorists who raped and murdered 1,200 Israeli men, women, and children? And why are they making boys wear burkas?"
- This Message Brought to You by Trump 2024

#32 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:27 PM

If he had called for an immediate ceasefire over a year ago and cut off all weapons supplied to the perpetrators, he'd have been reelected without question. He wouldn't have even had to drop out.
#29 | Posted by DarkVader
Because abandoning Israel wouldn't have cost Biden any votes or resulted in more votes for Trump. OK.
#30 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:23 PM

Obtuse, can't let that not be said.

Replace "votes" with "donations".

What you do not seem to understand is that every healthcare professional is against you, personally.

They find you feckless and immoral.

Almost as much as they do Biden.

#33 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:33 PM

Who would Jesus vote for? The orange Julius or the Zionist sundowner?

Neither hold to any real-world moral guidance and both are ardent ignorists.

Between the two I hope Biden lives to recognize the horrors his disregard for Palestinians has wrought.

#34 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:39 PM

What you do not seem to understand is that every healthcare professional is against you, personally.
They find you feckless and immoral.
Almost as much as they do Biden.
#33 | Posted by redlightrobot

Oh no! Healthcare professionals don't like me? Good thing they don't call the shots on anything other than charging patients $100 for a Tylenol. And voting for Trump. (Your Surgeon Is Probably a Republican, Your Psychiatrist Probably a Democrat www.nytimes.com ).

#35 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:41 PM

Israel KIDNAPS, R---S, and TORTURES Palestinian Doctors Systematically 7K views 3 days ago

For context.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:43 PM

For context.
#36 | Posted by redlightrobot

Thanks! Got any "context" on what the Palestinians did on October 7th to civilian women and children? Or does your Hamas-approved search engine turn up zero results for that?

#37 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:49 PM

What you do not seem to understand is that every healthcare professional is against you, personally.
They find you feckless and immoral.
Almost as much as they do Biden.
#33 | Posted by redlightrobot
Oh no! Healthcare professionals don't like me? Good thing they don't call the shots on anything other than charging patients $100 for a Tylenol. And voting for Trump. (Your Surgeon Is Probably a Republican, Your Psychiatrist Probably a Democrat www.nytimes.com ).
#35 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:41 PM

Specifically, can you point to any healthcare professional who doesn't testify that children are regularly and deliberately sniped through the skull on the daily by IDF?

There is plentiful evidence of Israeli destroying Palestinian children in ever-increasingly inventive ways.

Leaving toys with IED's. Water with IED's. Food with IED's. Hospitals with IED's.

Israeli invention for hell is limitless.

#38 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:51 PM

For context.
#36 | Posted by redlightrobot
Thanks! Got any "context" on what the Palestinians did on October 7th to civilian women and children? Or does your Hamas-approved search engine turn up zero results for that?
#37 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 03:49 PM

You're a simple bigot, Censored.

#39 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 03:55 PM

Specifically, can you point to any healthcare professional who doesn't testify that children are regularly and deliberately sniped through the skull on the daily by IDF?
#38 | Posted by redlightrobot

Sometimes four or five times a day on high holidays. Please respect other cultures.

You're a simple bigot, Censored.
#39 | Posted by redlightrobot

Right, no results for your search for "atrocities committed by Palestinians. Thanks for confirming!

Here you go; an abridged list for your reading enjoyment:
Palestinian war crimes
en.wikipedia.org

#40 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 04:00 PM

Censored won't acknowledge Israeli war crimes are much more egregious than anything the Palestinians have done.

He's a team player and has been cheering on this genocide since October 7th.

He loves dead Palestinians.

Over 50% of the population was under the age of 18.

Now there nothing left but destruction and death.

The best trick Israel has ever pulled, was convincing the world any attack on it, was an attack on Judaism, instead if an attack on a hardcore conservative government keeping million of people living in abject poverty and abuse, in an occupied territory.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-13 04:06 PM

@ RedLightRobot

You know what? I really shouldn't be poking at you like this. It's clear that this is very important to you.

So, for what it's worth, I offer my sincere apologies. I'll try to be more respectful to you in the future.

#42 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 04:14 PM

You're a simple bigot, Censored.
#39 | Posted by redlightrobot
Right, no results for your search for "atrocities committed by Palestinians. Thanks for confirming!
Here you go; an abridged list for your reading enjoyment:
Palestinian war crimes
en.wikipedia.org
#40 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 04:00 PM

So, not even one medical assistant can confirm your denial?

Because you are sloppy. Damn sloppy! I don't implore the internets smartest asses to lounge in the underground day spay with Elvis and Reagan, my expectations are slightly less moisturized but far more.. exfoliated. Without a living "doctor" to reference the answer is anything else. When I say "jump", you say "frequently!" Do not link to current information that has not been Mossad groomed. Yes, yes... you're doing it perfectly now.. keep spinning.. and prepare the projectile response with insensitivity and insincerity. Slime and deflection, or what's known as seven billion middle fingers, all saluting the American people who disagree. Remind them of how ex-pen-sive a Jewish girlfriend is. And this one wears a LOT of lipstick.

#43 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 04:16 PM

@ RedLightRobot
You know what? I really shouldn't be poking at you like this. It's clear that this is very important to you.
So, for what it's worth, I offer my sincere apologies. I'll try to be more respectful to you in the future.
#42 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-13 04:14 PM

Well, now I feel foolish, pretending that you don't have a clue.

#44 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 04:20 PM

Censored is Trash.

Not worth a bucket of cold Piss.

I'm Glad that Coward Plonked me.

His pretend humanity makes me want to Spew!

#45 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-01-13 05:17 PM

Censored is Trash.
Not worth a bucket of cold Piss.
I'm Glad that Coward Plonked me.
His pretend humanity makes me want to Spew!
#45 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-01-13 05:17 PM

This is my issue with him as well. There is no shared reality, only tribal reality. I suppose Biden has his Catholic "reasoning". IF he were half as unhinged as MAGA pretend his final week would be fulfilling Lordly duties.

"No faked 'red lines', faked 'ongoing investigations', or even a fake pier for faked aid distribution is a false equivocation too far to punish those Jews in the Atomic Rapture aka Redbull Presents The Second Coming live from the Nickelodeon orbital weapons platform and lounge aka Jewish Space Laser and Hillary Rodham Maximus Clinton child pizza emporium. From up here the tide is always high, the pep covers the pie so lets kvetch her to shreds! Dreaming. Call Me. We now return you to your regularly scheduled holocaust, and 'Heil, Christian Jesus!' Come on, I mean it, Jack!"

#46 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-13 06:22 PM

Biden's Bibi blind spot.
You never did get it Joe, that Bibi
just doesn't care about what you or
America wants for him to do. He is an
Independent Actor. Hope this serves as
a bitter lesson to Democrats (of which I am one).
NO MORE OLD PEOPLE FOR OFFICE! Period.

They just can't think nimbly on their feet.
Too stuck in their Old Ways.

#47 | Posted by earthmuse at 2025-01-14 06:32 AM

#47 | Posted by earthmuse

Not a judgement or saying WHAT we should do, but I don't care who was in office No US President would have done much if anything less for Israel.

We have betrayed or stepped on pretty much every people in the region at this point. Israel is our only 3/4 ally. That is just how it is. I mean there are a lot of dumb Arabs in this country that voted for Trumps expanded Muslim ban and his immigration policies. I don't care how much you hate Israel or Biden for supporting them - you voted for a party who I think half of the folks would be happy to torch your home with you in it.

#48 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-01-14 10:47 AM

I voted for Biden. But two of Biden's most glaring
weak spots were his stance on Israel, and his age.
The Dems should NEVER run a POTUS candidate again that
is over the full retirement age.

#49 | Posted by earthmuse at 2025-01-14 01:01 PM

This is not a year or two or three or four thing? It is a decades, and possibly centuries, thing that needs to be resolved. Unless, and until, you understand that, you will not understand the need

Well said. I have found that most people who take the effort to learn about the history of the Israel Palestine conflict go back in history to a certain year or era and stop. Whatever date they stop at informs their views on the conflict, who started it, who is at fault, who has claim to the land, etc.

For example, most of the pro-Hamas crowd stops around 1948, considers Palestinians indigenous people and believe the conflict originated with the Nakba. Go back 700 years and the Muslim Conquest presents an entirely different picture. Go back about 3000 years and find a unified Jewish kingdom.

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