Thursday, April 03, 2025

Dow Plunges, Recession Fears Grip

Global markets on Thursday were severely rattled by President Donald Trump's historic tariff announcement, which threatens to throw the US and the rest of the world into a recession.

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-- NPR (@npr.org) April 3, 2025 at 9:36 AM

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It's just a "flu".

It's only 15,000 pts soon to be zero!

It will stop as soon as it warms up.

This would not be a problem if we just stopped using numbers and counting.

#1 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 11:17 AM

Even a complete -------- like Biff Tannen wouldn't need a political version of Gray's Sports Almanac to successfully predict this outcome.

#2 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-04-03 11:17 AM

The most common word used to date to describes Trump's economic behavior is "idiocy".

Yep. Entirely right. We have a Big Fat Orange Idiot in a position of power.

I am not personally responsible for that, but some of the asshats who come here are.

I can explain why Donald Trump is like he is. It's really simple and has been laid out many times before.

But you quasi-American -------- who support him? Your idiocy is unexplainable. But I take solace in the fact it will hurt you as much, and likely much worse, than the rest of us.

No, none of you MAGA are going on vacation next year. I hope that you remain able to feed yourselves. Because Trump won't feed you.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-04-03 11:28 AM

Totally inapplicable to the stock market crash that Trump is blatantly intentionally causing.

How to make money by manipulating stocks:

To make money by manipulating stocks:
Spread false or misleading information about a company to influence its stock price.
Utilize insider information to create false ups and downs in stock prices for profit.

Note: Engaging in stock manipulation is illegal and unethical, and can lead to severe legal consequences. Always consider the risks involved before attempting to manipulate stocks [unless you are President and have unlimited pardoning power and the entire federal government under your thumb because the GOP loves and/or fears you].

#4 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-03 11:30 AM

-But I take solace in the fact it will hurt you as much, and likely much worse, than the rest of us.

I think in a just world, the people who voted for and supported this should bear the pain.

But I don't see how that's going to happen. That the MAGAs will be hurt "much worse" than the rest of us.

It's a wish, an aspiration, a desire.....but I don't see it as a "fact".

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 11:33 AM

"I don't see how that's going to happen. That the MAGAs will be hurt "much worse" than the rest of us."

Rural areas rely more on government funding; they're the ones most likely to see closures and disruptions.

It's the difference between a business closing down in a large city, versus a small town's main employer going belly up. The former can deal with it; the latter may experience a death blow.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-03 11:39 AM

Republicans, remember: You asked for this. Given the choice between a dozen solid conservatives and one Clinton-supporting con artist and game-show host, you chose the con artist. You chose him freely. Nobody made you do it.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-04-03 11:41 AM

" I don't see it as a "fact"."

The numbers do.

So does logic: if red areas are more government-supported, slashed government support will affect those areas more.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-03 11:44 AM

- a death blow

I drove thru the Deep South year before last, and the poor people there already appeared to be like zombies; shuffling thru a joy-free life in a stupor of despair.

This oughta do the trick the Broligarchs are seeking... get rid of them completely.

Thanks, Trumpers. Your whitening of America is werking as planned.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 11:48 AM

Whodathunk one idiot unilaterally instituting the largest tax hike in American history would tank the economy

Thanks magat scum

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-03 12:18 PM

It'll be fine. Manufacturing will be coming back.

That's what matters.

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 12:24 PM

No it won't you ------- idiot

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-03 12:25 PM

"Manufacturing will be coming back."

I want what you're smoking! That's gotta be some good stuff.

Why did manufacturing go overseas?

Profits.

Why is it not coming back?

Profits.

There is no profit in bringing manufacturing back to America.

Therefore manufacturing is NOT coming back to America anytime soon.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 12:31 PM

"Manufacturing will be coming back."

You really think child labor will save us, don't you?

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 12:32 PM

"I want what you're smoking! That's gotta be some good stuff."

Just a little bit of leafy green sarcasm.

Not really sure how anyone could have taken my comment seriously.

The $USD has dropped by around 8% in the last month relative to the Euro and Euro-tied currencies.

That's basically an 8% pay cut for me.

I converted my savings from $ into EUR on Monday.

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 12:33 PM

#11

No, it won't be better anytime soon. These plants don't build themselves overnight, and they won't get built at all as long as there's an idiot in charge:

"If you want stuff being put in the ground, you have to tell people the price, and the price needs to be fully inclusive of the tariff risk," one former administration official in Trump's first term, granted anonymity to speak freely, told me.

It's not that tariffs can't work as an action-forcing tool for companies to move production to the U.S. This is a wealthy country with one of the largest consumer markets in the world, and the president probably isn't wrong that a lot of our trading partners would capitulate to keep serving it.

But I've asked multiple corporate executives in recent weeks whether companies are likely to start investing in manufacturing in the United States in response to Trump's policies, and the message has basically been:

That's an unanswerable question right now. Because making those decisions requires understanding the relative costs of doing it versus not doing it, and Trump is far too unpredictable to allow for that kind of calculation."

www.politico.com

Of course, the billionaires backing this are the insiders who will eventually profit from it a few years from now, maybe... and who couldn't care less about all the lives of 'lesser mortals' it will destroy in the meantime.

One of these days your avg rwinger is going to realize that they are not now and are never going to be one of the very wealthy that this could actually help in the future.

That they are the cannon fodder only.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:34 PM

I wouldn't plan on a European vacay this summer if I were any of you.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 12:34 PM

It'll be fine. Manufacturing will be coming back.

That's what matters.

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 12:24 PM | Reply

No it won't you ------- idiot

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-03 12:25 PM | Reply

Over a trillion in commitments so far.

#18 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-04-03 12:36 PM

"Just a little bit of leafy green sarcasm."

Well apologies then!

But you know it's really hard to tell sarcasm from Trump and his supporters brazen blustering anymore when every headline today sounds like it came straight from the Onion.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 12:36 PM

See post 18 in this thread for an excellent and timely example.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 12:37 PM

Short-term pain for long-term gain, gentlemen!

It's 4D chess, something you gay snowflake DEI immigrant trans libs in your Subarus wouldn't understand. Wealthy white straight suburban Christian men in large pickup trucks are back, baby!

Sure, your 401k is tanking now, and prices on, well, everything are about to go through the roof, and you might end up homeless for a few years, but if you stick to Ramen noodles and macaroni and cheese, go to church and invest in crypto, in a couple hundred years you'll double your money easy peasy!

#21 | Posted by cbob at 2025-04-03 12:38 PM

"Red areas" and "government-supported" are pretty broad terms.

It's a fair point but it's not very qualified. Are the specific govt programs being impacted by cuts the same ones that disproportionately serve red areas?

I would assume they do but I don't really know. Trump is such a spiteful bastard I would assume he's carved out cuts to hurt blue areas more. He signed a tax plan that was intended on doing exactly that. Hurt blue state tax payers more than red state tax payers. I would think these cuts have that stench attached to them as well.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 12:39 PM

#18

So, sense you will believe anything... I have some swamp, er, undeveloped low land here in FL you might be interested in.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:39 PM

Is this what the cl0wns wanted? ... eeeerrrrmmmm want?
What was the point of it all?
Sooooooooo do we need to once again... "abandon the free market"... in order to save it?

btw... still not feeling owned...

seriously clowns... not feeling owned... at all

I mean $#!t... like watching yet another republicl0wn train wreck... in slo mo...

heavy sigh... glad I'm old.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-04-03 12:39 PM

So when the market went up or down under Obama or Biden Dems yelled that it didn't matter to everyday Americans, it only affected the rich. And f them.
Now when the market goes they say it affects the everyday Americans. In other words your party has cried wolf and screeched so much without providing real solutions that the majority of Americans have tuned them out. That's why your party's approval rating is in the mid 20s, the LOWEST OF ALL TIME.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-04-03 12:41 PM

-I drove thru the Deep South year before last, and the poor people there already appeared to be like zombies; shuffling thru a joy-free life in a stupor of despair.

Oh please...you just described the status of the Deep South for your entire life.

And I know you're old......

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 12:41 PM

heavy sigh... glad I'm old.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-04-03 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

We all wish you were significantly older.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-04-03 12:42 PM

#26

Did JeffyB refuse to service you this morning?

The Deep South could have changed... other parts of the South have done much better.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:44 PM

everyday Americans,

#25 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

This is a National Day of Mourning.

You "everyday" MAGAs will feel that soon enough.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-04-03 12:44 PM

go to church and invest in crypto, in a couple hundred years you'll double your money easy peasy!

POSTED BY CBOB

And if all that fails then there is always Heaven. Heaven is waiting patiently for you after you die as long as you believe in the one true god. Unfortunately for you there are a bunch of them who claim to be the one true god. So. Hope you've pick the right god to back. Good luck with that crap shoot, too. Don't know about you but I am thinking tho that 72 virgins offer is a better offer than streets paved with gold and angels playing harps in the clouds.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 12:44 PM

The demented orange pedo just injected bleach into the economy.

#31 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-03 12:46 PM

So, sense you will believe anything... I have some swamp, er, undeveloped low land here in FL you might be interested in.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

www.wsj.com

Pull your head out of your butt and plunge it back in the sand.

#32 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-04-03 12:46 PM

We all wish you were significantly older.

#27 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

"We"

Lol.

So exactly how many voices in your head are there?

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 12:46 PM

POSTED BY FISHPAW

Out of genuine curiosity:

What would Donald Trump have to do to convince you that he's not quite right in the head?

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2025-04-03 12:47 PM

- 72 virgins

aka all the women Eberly has ever dated.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:47 PM

-Did JeffyB refuse to service you this morning?

I can always count on you to service me when needed. And even scream Jeff's name at the same time.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 12:47 PM

-The Deep South could have changed... other parts of the South have done much better.

LOL

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 12:48 PM

#32

You really don't need to prove that you believe anything your Orange God tells you... and what you posted are his financial sycophants telling him what he wants to hear; that sure they'll invest here IF he ever shows he can get the economy to stay online.

As detailed in #16. Where reading is your friend.

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:52 PM

#37

www.google.com

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:54 PM

Who needs a 401(K) anyway?

We have Social Security! ...oh wait...

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-03 12:56 PM

"One of these days your avg rwinger is going to realize that they are not now and are never going to be one of the very wealthy that this could actually help in the future."

so many things wrong with this statement.

It's been spewed forever by the likes of Corky who pretend they don't understand Joe 6-pack and that he doesn't think he's wealthy nor that he's going to be wealthy.

Joe 6-pack with the Trump sign in his yard is living the American dream. He's got a job, maybe a wife/girlfriend, AC/furnace, and cold beer.

He's fine with the fact that he's not wealthy nor going to be. What in the hell is he doing to change that? nothing.

You know why that falsehood keeps getting trotted out by furious people like corky?

Because the corky's of the world can't accept the reality that they aren't any different from Joe 6-pack other than the Trump sign in the yard.

In every other sense of it, they are precisely like Joe 6-pack.

not born on 3rd base
not wealthy
not going to be wealthy
doesn't possess the skills, worth ethic, talents, etc to get further than where they are

corky's statement above is pure rage talking

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 12:58 PM

Trillions (not billions) of dollars of American economic value have evaporated over the past 24 hours. Far more than DOGE or tax cuts for the rich or any other hare brained scheme of the Trump Administration will ever recover.

And for those not paying attention... this is neither a normal or cyclical stock market dip. This is a Trump imposed, Depression era type avalanche that seems to be growing stronger. This easily could be the worst economic hit any of us ever see in our lifetimes. FoxNews may be spinning like crazy, but the reality is there for all of us to experience. It is so easy to see how this will get much much worse unless Congress, the Courts and the American people intervene.

#42 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-04-03 12:59 PM

"New modelling reveals full impact of Trump's Liberation Day' tariffs " with the US hit hardest"

theconversation.com

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 12:59 PM

Greatest -------- on earth.

Are you not yet entertained?

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 01:03 PM

#41

This Projection in this post reads like a grocery store ad, rofl!

- they aren't any different from Joe 6-pack other than the Trump sign in the yard.

Demonstrably False.

The most accurate Predictor of who votes Republican is Education Level now... not race, not gender, not age.

Grow up, Eb.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 01:03 PM

What's the big deal? The Dow loses 3% of its total value in one day at least once every century.

#46 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-04-03 01:05 PM

"they aren't any different from Joe 6-pack other than the Trump sign in the yard."

demonstrably true and you're living proof.

You and a host of others here who aren't any different in any way from Joe 6-pack except for what you do on election day.

I'm not talking about the entire left....just the ------- like you who post that demonstrably false statement over and over.

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:06 PM

39

thanks for making my point for me. The deep south has been a -------- for longer than you've been alive.

it didn't get worse suddenly when you drove through in last week.

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:08 PM

- Joe 6-pack

I know you are having trouble these days as your Party is led by a traitor, but facts are facts.

"Why education level has become the best predictor for how someone will vote"

www.cnn.com

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 01:11 PM

"it didn't get worse suddenly when you drove through in last week."

Not even a little, just by his mere presence?

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 01:12 PM

- making my point for me.

Nope... you're still being pointless. Most southern states are nowhere near as economically depressed as deep south states. Period.

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 01:13 PM

#50

I was wearing my UN Peacekeeper armband.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 01:14 PM

-I know you are having trouble these days as your Party is led by a traitor, but facts are facts.

again, assigning your frustration and ignorance to others because you're lonely.

I have zero trouble understanding exactly what Trump is.

My party isn't some club I belong to. You see it that way because you have no friends. You imagine you have friends in the democratic party because........you're a democrat. It means something to you to feel as though you belong to something.

You belong to nothing.

I vote in the primary that matters where I live. I don't belong to a club or group that defines me in any way. I know you struggle with that.....but facts are facts.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:15 PM

The $USD has dropped by around 8% in the last month relative to the Euro and Euro-tied currencies.

It has only begun to drop.

Deplorable Trumping MAGAts are cheering on their loss.

Removing the dollar as the international currency will be the biggest win Putin will achieve.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-03 01:18 PM

- because you're lonely.

Projection can be awfully embarrassing! But one needs to be self-aware to be embarrassed, so I'm pretty sure he's OK.

On Topic:

"Trump visits STOCK MARKET Today LOUDLY BOOED by WORKERS: "YOU RUINED OUR LIVES"

www.youtube.com

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 01:19 PM

It dawns on me that Trump may have caused America more total economic loss in one day than Osama Bin Ladin did on 9/11.

Now that's "winning" and Making America Great Again in anyone's estimation. *snark

#56 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-04-03 01:20 PM

"Joe 6-pack with the Trump sign in his yard is living the American dream. He's got a job, maybe a wife/girlfriend, AC/furnace, and cold beer."

But. He. Isn't. Happy

His "American Dream" is blaming immigrants for everyone's problems, and hating that trans people exist.

We have one of these clowns in my neighborhood.

People who don't a chip on their shoulder don't wrap their pickup in Second Amendment propaganda and fly the flag upside down.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 01:21 PM

"I drove thru the Deep South year before last, and the poor people there already appeared to be like zombies; shuffling thru a joy-free life in a stupor of despair."

-Corky

now you're deflecting to Southern states vs the deep south (I'm not sure you can actually make that distinction, but you can impress me by trying)

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:22 PM

I
if I were Vladimir Putin I would be celebrating today! Bis mole in the White House is upending the economies of most of our former allies and turning them against us. His investment in Donald Trump is really paying off!

#59 | Posted by danni at 2025-04-03 01:22 PM

-His "American Dream" is blaming immigrants for everyone's problems, and hating that trans people exist.

That's what he does.

Before that, it was gays and blacks.

Before that it was something else.

They'll always be blaming someone for something......"happiness" isn't a construct that's easy to understand.

All people are happy or unhappy about something or someone.

But the happiness that matters in this context......is are they unhappy with the GOP? Nope....they're still happy with the GOP.

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:26 PM

Joe 6-pack with the Trump sign in his yard is living the American dream. He's got a job, maybe a wife/girlfriend, AC/furnace, and cold beer.

Joe the plumber died at the age of 49 of cancer. He had married twice and left behind 4 children.

Joe the plumber wanted to own a plumbing business but did not even have a contractors license for plumbing and owed 1200 in back taxes at the time and he later made most of his money grifting off of pre-maga fools. Joe the plumber voted for Trumpy before he died poor and left his family in debt because of the cost of his medical care.

Joe the plumber once said after a mass shooting ... "your dead kids don't trump my constitutional rights".

Joe the one plumber was nothing like me that's for sure.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 01:26 PM

-we have one of these clowns in my neighborhood.

Yep, he's just like the clown that was chirping about civil rights 60 years ago.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 01:27 PM

It's not happiness they want from the GOP.
It's vengeance.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 01:32 PM

Vengeance for the past sixty years of blacks and women being equals and getting ahead of them in life.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 01:33 PM

Don't know about you but I am thinking tho that 72 virgins offer is a better offer than streets paved with gold and angels playing harps in the clouds.

#30 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2025-04-03 12:44 PM | FLAG:

They wouldn't necessarily have to be virgins. ;)

#65 | Posted by cbob at 2025-04-03 01:33 PM

After blowing up the economy Felon 47 is heading for the links again.

www.alternet.org

#66 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-03 01:39 PM

"we have one of these clowns in my neighborhood.

Yep, he's just like the clown that was chirping about civil rights 60 years ago."

Probably his grandson. Living off that generationaln wealth. Wealth that is drying up.

Whites like him have no future. They know it. That's why they are so mad. It also makes them ridiculously easy to manipulate with fear.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 01:40 PM

Nope....they're still happy with the GOP.

#60 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Sure. Like Jeffry Dalmer was "happy" with his life. Who really cares if hateful morons hellbent on evil are frigging "happy" with the results of their hateful actions?

They support the GOP only while the GOP is able promote basics policies and, of course, to "own the libs". And when they are unable to own the libs anymore (due to the crushing weight of reality) "they" will drop the GOP like a hot potato.

Owning the libs is a terrible economic policy and is already back firing in a hundred different ways. And it's only been two months. And the -------- has barely even begun.

It is well known that a society's stability depends on its ability to meet the basic needs of its people, and that when those needs are not met, people are more likely to become disaffected and potentially resort to violence or chaos.

Hang in there folks! Mr Toads Wild Ride (ver 2.0) has barely even begun.

#68 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 01:42 PM

Re 68

"Basic policies" should have been hateful policies. Thx Siri.

#69 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 01:44 PM

"people are more likely to become disaffected and potentially resort to violence or chaos."

If that happens, we'll just have to cancel elections.
~DJT

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-03 01:48 PM

They wouldn't necessarily have to be virgins. ;)

#65 | POSTED BY CBOB

Heck. There does not even have to be 72 of them either as far as I'm concerned. Just a nice variety will do.

But I don't make the rules. So 72 is fine by me.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 01:48 PM

New bipartisan bill would give Congress authority to control tariffs
www.scrippsnews.com

... The bill would require the president to provide Congress with "an assessment of the potential impact of imposing or increasing the duty on United States businesses and consumers." ...

#72 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-03 01:57 PM

The bill would require the president to provide Congress with "an assessment of the potential impact of imposing or increasing the duty on United States businesses and consumers."

Duty = Tax

Wow. So Congress wants an assessment BEFORE actions are taken? What a concept! You mean they want some kind of analysis before just diving into the chaos?

What is happening? How on earth was Congress able to come up with legislation that actually makes sense?

This is just too hard to believe. I'll believe it when I actually see it.

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 02:03 PM

We all wish you were significantly older.

#27 | Posted by fishpoo at 2025-04-03 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag: SNIPPY

Thanks to all of you... wishing my life were longer... I guess...

anyyyyyyyyy hoooooooooooo

I'm just watching all the winnnnnning... soooooooooo much win-nnnnnnning!
I'm just reveling in your successes... is all. I mean you won n' S#!t...
I'm laughing with you... and at you.

We're all Americans here... looking forward to returning to seasonal produce harvested by your children.

The United States built an international trade infrastructure that can easily be confiscated... diverted... by host nations... to other markets.

7 out of 10 people on the planet are Asian...

#74 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-04-03 02:12 PM

" So when the market went up or down under Obama or Biden"

it wasnt by 6000 points -------!

#75 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-03 02:12 PM

Alexandrite: Exactly!!!!!!!!

#76 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-04-03 02:34 PM

That's why your party's approval rating is in the mid 20s, the LOWEST OF ALL TIME.
#25 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

Look at this fkkking loser.

Trump supporters first, American second.

When will you grow some balls and admit what the Trump administration is doing is destroying America.

By the way. Not sure you've been paying attention to the recent elections. Democrats are winning them in areas Republicans swept in November.

But you make sure you hold onto those polls. God knows they're always accurate.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-03 02:40 PM

Me to Trump:

"Obtuse. Is it deliberate?"

Talk about self infliction...................

#78 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-04-03 02:52 PM

Eberly, can we get an update on how your Chamber of Commerce is celebrating your community's victory over prosperity and longevity through the tariffs?

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 02:59 PM

- not sure you can actually make that distinction- Eberlyville

Deep South vs South

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Learn more
The "Deep South" refers to the southernmost states in the United States, historically known for plantation-based economies and slavery, while "the South" is a broader term encompassing a larger area with a distinct culture and history.

www.google.com

It's easy to do if one isn't busy prevaricating about something else.

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 03:11 PM

Trump's tariffs won't give US workers any pain': Karoline Leavitt
www.newsnationnow.com

... President Donald Trump's reciprocal tariffs will bring about an era of "price stability" and higher wages, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Thursday on NewsNation's "Morning in America."

"There's not going to be any pain for American-owned companies and American workers, because their jobs are going to come back home," Leavitt said. ...


#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-03 03:39 PM

"There's not going to be any pain for American-owned companies and American workers, because their jobs are going to come back home"

Who is going to do these jobs that return?
We're at like 4% unemployment here.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 03:42 PM

Who is going to do these jobs that return?

Children!

#83 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-04-03 03:44 PM

#82

future headline:

Trump Opens Border to Calm Labor Worries

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 03:45 PM

...because their jobs are going to come back home"

By Friday, or do they have to endure the pain until next week?

#85 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-03 03:47 PM

"Deep South vs South"

The blacker, the deeper.

That is how The South works.

That's why Miami is barely in the South at all, culturally speaking.

#86 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 03:48 PM

80

Congrats, you can make that distinction.

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-03 03:49 PM

"...because their jobs are going to come back home"

If you believe hard enough.

Because if you don't believe in Magic then all the Tinkerbells will die!

#88 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 03:54 PM

#87

It's easy to do if one isn't busy prevaricating about something else.

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-03 03:55 PM

"There's not going to be any pain for American-owned companies and American workers, because their jobs are going to come back home," Leavitt said. ...

#81 | Posted by LampLighter

And who are these companies going to export to?

I already know several companies sending jobs down to Mexico so they can export to Asia and Europe without reciprocal tariffs affecting them.

#90 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-03 03:56 PM

I remember when Covid hit and Trump was telling Americans to take Ivermectin pills and bleach shots. Now Trump has just done to America's economy that he did to our national heath when the Coronavirus hit us. We are in so much trouble. So bad in fact that I am uncertain Trump's presidency will be able to ride it out.

#91 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-04-03 04:03 PM

@#83 ... Children! ...

Florida child labor rollback bill amended to allow some 13-year-olds to work
www.wusf.org

... Proposals going through the Florida legislature removing several child labor protections were just amended to allow some 13-year-olds to work.

The legislature last year passed policy allowing 16- and 17-year-olds to work 30-hour weeks. This year, new proposals in the Florida House and Senate would allow them to work full-time and ease rules for 14- and 15-year-olds who are enrolled in homeschool, virtual education, or those who have already graduated. The house version would allow 13-year-olds to work during the summer of the year they turn 14. ...


#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-03 04:04 PM

@#88 ... "...because their jobs are going to come back home" ...

There's, I'd proffer, a three to four year delay between the time the decision to build for a new factory is made and the time that the factory comes online.

What's Pres Trump's plan for those years?

#93 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-03 04:06 PM

Someone's gotta do the labor immigrants were doing.

Orange Orchards aren't gonna just tend to themselves.

Dumbing down Americans and putting children back into factories.

Now that's MAGA!

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-03 04:07 PM

By Friday, or do they have to endure the pain until next week?

#85 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Not by Friday and not by next week. And especially not for Canadians. Your pain hasn't even started yet. But Trumpy is coming for ya. You get to be our 51st state you lucky devils! No more gubmint healthcare for you you lazy bastages.

Anyway ... Our recovery will be at the time and place of Trumpy's choosing.

Which is currently estimated to be on the 1st of never.

Because prices rarely if ever go down once they go up. They only go keep going up. (Or stay the same and the quantity and the quality go down)

Places everyone. Stock up on popcorn while it's still affordable. The greatest -------- on earth is just beginning.

#95 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 04:08 PM

There's, I'd proffer, a three to four year delay between the time the decision to build for a new factory is made and the time that the factory comes online.

Absolutely.

They are claiming the returning manufacturing work will be taken up by the existing excess factory capacity.

But I have yet to see anyone do the math and show how it will lower prices by bringing manufacturing back to a country where the wages are much higher and healthcare costs have only gotten worse and the cost of living is skyrocketing.

I still can't see where the PROFITS will come from to support this.

#96 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-03 04:19 PM

MAGA - like one in particular here on DR, who has a healthy pension we pay for, and doesn't think or care about anyone else's well being - is focused on boys playing on girl teams (a MINISCULE "problem") rather than how unhinged their chosen candidate is and what a danger he poses to America and America's future. F*&! the Constitution, f&^% competency, f&^# everything that doesn't affect them.

America's in big trouble. But as long as those pension checks keep arriving in that particular traitorous scum's bank account while pension funds that aren't government-backed are and will continue to see their holdings drop like the Hindenburg.

Trump's a know-nothing idiot. And so are his backers who know that full well but back him anyway.

Now, lunatics like Laura Loomer are firing NSC staff based on their loyalty to Trump rather than loyalty to America.

The hurt has only just begun ...

#97 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 04:25 PM

I want to know HOW this is going to bring back Manufacturing.

Reciprocal Tariffs will kill our exports.
Trump gutted the infrastructure spending and we don't have infrastructure for huge new manufacturing hubs.
We don't have federal education programs that manufacturing companies need.

These Tariffs and stupid policies will KILL manufacturing.

#98 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-03 04:25 PM

On the upside... there is only 44 months left... counting the moments

#99 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-04-03 04:33 PM

40% of revenues for S&P-listed companies come from overseas.

This is going to hurt employees of those companies and the rest of us.

Trump just caused what will be massive inflation and a recession too as employers in the U.S. lay off workers because of falling revenues.

None of this affects him, so why care about the other 350,000,000 of us who aren't billionaires?

#100 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 04:42 PM

It's only just begun:

Layoff announcements surge to the most since the pandemic as Musk's DOGE slices federal labor force

A surge in federal government job cuts contributed to a near record-setting pace for announced layoffs in March, exceeded only by when the country shut down in 2020 for the Covid pandemic, according to a report Thursday from job placement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas.

www.nbcnews.com

40% of S&P-listed company's revenues come from overseas. These tariffs will cause those sales to slump and lead to massive layoffs in the U.S. over the coming months.

#101 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 04:56 PM

What's Pres Trump's plan for those years?

Blame Biden.

#102 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-03 04:58 PM

Trumpf has given Wall Street (and our 401Ks) another 9/11: www.investopedia.com

#103 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-03 04:58 PM

www.truthorfiction.com

#104 | Posted by morris at 2025-04-03 05:03 PM

Trumpf has given Wall Street (and our 401Ks) another 9/11: www.investopedia.com

#103 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Wait'll average Americans log in and see the hit to their 401k accounts.

#105 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 05:12 PM

Buy low.
or lower?
or lower??

#106 | Posted by South_American at 2025-04-03 05:16 PM

I saw this coming months ago.

Glad I pulled everything out of the stock market the day after Trump was elected because I knew he's a know-nothing, narcissistic moron who'd hire loyalist nincompoops and cause America great pain.

#107 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 05:17 PM

"None of this affects him, so why care about the other 350,000,000 of us who aren't billionaires?"

If it's any consolation, many billionaires are on their way to being millionaires.

Many millionaires are on their way to being nothing at all.

#108 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 05:21 PM

#107

I converted my savings from USD into EUR on Monday. I also moved all my TSP funds into G. I won't make any money, but hopefully I don't lose much.

Had I done it on 28 Feb, or even earlier like you did. I would have been far better off.

#109 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-03 05:24 PM

While Congress is looking at a bipartisan bill to give themselves authority to control tariffs (too late), they should also repeal the abused Presidential AUMF (Authorization to Unalive Muslims Fecklessly).

www.scrippsnews.com

www.progressivecaucuscenter.org

#110 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-03 05:43 PM

No it won't you ------- idiot

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-03 12:25 PM | Reply

Over a trillion in commitments so far.

Posted by fishpaw

A drop in the bucket.

And we can be sure you don't know it takes 3-4 years to get a new manufacturing plant online.

#111 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 05:48 PM

I can't afford be all in cash but I moved a lot to cash and bonds. And Rheinmetall.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-03 06:00 PM

Fox News removes their Dow ticker as stocks crater from Trump's new tariffs

Lol

#113 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-03 06:39 PM

All Faux News has to do is tell their viewers that the stock market is just fine and they'll all believe it.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-03 06:47 PM

Trump left on another $20,000,000 golf weekend in Florida this afternoon.

A modern day version of Nero playing fiddle while Rome burned.

#115 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 07:09 PM

Exciting Day on the NYSE': Newsmax CEO, Personalities Ring Opening Bell on Wall Street Ahead of Market Wipeout

www.mediaite.com

Rudy G was part of another 9/11.

#116 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-03 07:09 PM

Donnie Dumbfuq is a fucking traitor.

#117 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-03 07:10 PM

#116 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Newsmax is down 80% from their high yesterday

DJT (Trump's stock grift) fared better. But that's because there are more likely than not individuals pumping it up in an end round bribery scheme.

#118 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-03 07:14 PM

Every idiot in this country should have seen this coming.

I just bought my electronic drum kit. Not a musical bone in my body.

I'm going to limit my "entertainment" to teaching myself how to drum and start taking pot edibles again, until this bullshit blows over. Drum therapy.

#119 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-04-04 01:16 AM

Trump left on another $20,000,000 golf weekend in Florida this afternoon.

A modern day version of Nero playing fiddle while Rome burned.

#115 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

When are the Doge-bros going to look into this?

#120 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-04-04 01:19 AM

My brother's financial advisor and my financial advisor (different entities) both told us the same thing (we both got spooked by this) - this drop is a long overdue market correction and growth will likely resume soon.

I hope they both prove correct, but I don't have a crystal ball....

#121 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-04 01:28 AM

I just bought my electronic drum kit. Not a musical bone in my body.

I'm going to limit my "entertainment" to teaching myself how to drum and start taking pot edibles again, until this bullshit blows over. Drum therapy.

#119 | Posted by a_monson

Congrats on the new kit. It's a great way to take out angst!

There are loads of "minus one" tracks you can play along with.

#122 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-04 02:56 AM

#120 | Posted by a_monson

$20,000,000 a week adds up to a whole lot of taxpayer money he's blowing over the course of a year!

#123 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-04 02:57 AM

#121

A long overdue market correction??

No. This is Trump's tariffs.

What was the market cap loss yesterday? $2 trillion?

It's not like COVID, where you knew the economy was going to pick back up. Normally I'd be looking at airline stocks, but I'm not confident that people will be vacationing this summer. Other than maybe Myrtle Beach or Santa Cruz or something.

#124 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-04 04:25 AM

"And Rheinmetall."

Dude, that's SMART move!

#125 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-04 04:26 AM

Short selling this week would have been smart as well.

Some of my co-workers did OK short-selling Tesla stock.

#126 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-04 04:29 AM

#111

Most of the jobs that left the US-they left for a reason.

#127 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-04-04 04:30 AM

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