Monday, November 11, 2024

Harris Lost by 121K Votes in 3 Swing States

"However, a shift of 121,000 votes across Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin would have produced a different result with Harris winning," he said, adding, "We infer too much from marginal shifts in numbers. This election is another case of that."

Comments

Recount, baby!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-11 07:51 PM

Good luck with that. Unless you were okay before with someone winning the electoral vote without the popular vote, you don't really have a leg to hop on.

#2 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-11 08:31 PM

Elon Musk stole the election!

The Great Conspiracy-Theorist Flip-Flop
www.theatlantic.com

Elon Musk used satellites to steal' US election
www.telegraph.co.uk

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-11 08:37 PM

She did worse than down ballot candidates.

Which means people really weren't happy with the Administration, but liked their party.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-11 09:02 PM

No, 1Nut, that means that swing voters decided to vote for the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't; most Pres candidates campaign full time for at least 1 or 2 years... she had a couple of months.

And she wasn't all that well known when she was picked for VP.

#2

You have absolutely no sense of humor at all. But we knew that.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-11 09:46 PM

Unless you were okay before with someone winning the electoral vote without the popular vote, you don't really have a leg to hop on.
#2 | Posted by sentinel

A leg to stand on? Besides the method prescribed by the US Constitution (and that Repubs have used in two out of three elections since the turn of the century to take the White House, despite having a minority of the popular vote)?

What do our personal feelings have to do with that?

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-12 07:30 AM

No, 1Nut, that means that swing voters decided to vote for the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't

Trump's numbers didn't change. Which means MAGA remained and voted en bloc.

The disparity between POTUS and down ballot races screams, loud and clear, that she was a terrible candidate that Dem voters simply didn't vote for while voting for down ballot Dems.

Someone on another thread put it perfectly - Trump didn't win. The Democrats lost.

You can stop pretending Harris was a good choice in 2020 or 2024 now.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 09:42 AM

No, 1Nut, that means that swing voters decided to vote for the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't; most Pres candidates campaign full time for at least 1 or 2 years... she had a couple of months.

And she wasn't all that well known when she was picked for VP.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-11 09:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then why anoint her as "the only candidate"? That's on the DNC.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-12 09:45 AM

#8

Most obvious to anyone but a blithering idiot, there was no time for anything else.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:02 AM

Most obvious to anyone but a blithering idiot, there was no time for anything else.

Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:02 AM | Reply

Your party pushed a Post Turtle on us. Not a good move.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-12 11:22 AM

#10

Hating on the Lesser Evil is fine pastime for the selfish.

How's that Jill Stein thing going?

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:27 AM

Corky,

Just admit you were wrong.

It's not hard.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 11:30 AM

Hating on the Lesser Evil is fine pastime for the selfish.

How's that Jill Stein thing going?

Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:27 AM | Reply

How's that Hillary thing working out for you?? BTW Like last time. I voted for None of the above. Do try and keep up Corky.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-12 11:33 AM

#12

I see... so, your better solution for a couple of mos before the Election was what now?

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:33 AM

- I voted for None of the above.

And D. Trump appreciates the hell outta that.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:35 AM

Most obvious to anyone but a blithering idiot, there was no time for anything else.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag

Somewhat correct:

Time ran out as planned.

"blithering idiot" The desperation is starting to look good on you.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-12 11:37 AM

I voted for None of the above.

And D. Trump appreciates the hell outta that.

Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:35 AM | Reply

Considering 101 out of 105 counties in Kansas went for Trump you don't have a point as usual Corky.

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-12 11:38 AM

- Time ran out as planned.

Thanks for verifying the 'blithering idiot' thing... I was pretty sure, but now it's certain; when you have nothing, you type anyway.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:39 AM

I see... so, your better solution for a couple of mos before the Election was what now?

#14 | Posted by Corky

LOL

Just LOL

I see you've clung to an excuse like a life preserver floating by after a shipwreck.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 11:40 AM

#17 |

Well, I suppose Kansas is big enough for even you to hide behind... but, what if you lived in a swing state and needed to act responsibly?

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:41 AM

#19

Wow. Really?

Nothing, nada, zilch? Not sure why I expected you to have a rational alternative in mind, but hey... I was wrong.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:43 AM

I see... so, your better solution for a couple of mos before the Election was what now?

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Even JPW knows you're lying. You're in the denial step of grieving. It's ok... I'm sure you'll grow from this like you did when Hillary lost in 2016. LOL not

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-12 11:43 AM

#22

Still nothing. Must be an epidemic of stupid.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:46 AM

Still nothing. Must be an epidemic of stupid.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-12 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

You're still using the same excuses for losing with terrible candidates.

"vote for them anyway"
"we ran out of time"
"it's trump's fault"
"he's a criminal"

Let that last one sink in a minute. Your candidate couldn't beat an adjuicated rapist and a multiple times felon for mishandling classified information.. Oh, and the hush money
Yeah, that guy... He's wiping his feet on Kamala's back when the enters the White
house this time - but somehow it's always someone else's fault with you. You must have had everything handed to you in life. You sound like a spoiled trust fund brat.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-12 11:55 AM

You must have had everything handed to you in life. You sound like a spoiled trust fund brat.

#24 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2024-11-12 11:55 AM | REPLY

sounds like projection to me.

#25 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-12 11:56 AM

Nothing, nada, zilch? Not sure why I expected you to have a rational alternative in mind, but hey... I was wrong.

#21 | Posted by Corky

First of all, your little shtick is well past old. You can always tell when you're cornered because you fall back on a logical fallacy presented with hollow attempts at condescension.

Second, no, it wasn't because people didn't know who she was because she only had a few months. FFS how f*&^ing tone deaf and insulated are you?

She ran for POTUS once before. She was the first to lose.

She was VP for four years and did nothing. What little she attempted was failure after failure. That's why her bio page (before she was handed the nomination) was mostly about being half black half south asian parents were blah blah blah. It wasn't about initiatives she was working on or had successfully guided to completion.

Once she was handed the nomination, they played identity politic -------- with it. Made no significant attempt to counter the narrative that she and Biden were responsible for the inflationary pressure everyone feels, certainly didn't message well that things were much improved and are continuing to improve.

But there was gonna be $25K handouts to further inflate housing costs! And taxes on money people hadn't even earned yet! (I know most wouldn't be affected by that, but it plays into the stereotypes about dems) And programs to help black male entrepreneurs get into the weed business!

Let's not even get into framing the whole women's rights issues as being about just abortion, which makes them sound ghoulish and rather dispicable to a lot of people.

So not only was it not a great campaign, but she was just a bad choice that wasn't decided by the Dem voters.

Your little life preserver you're clinging to? Just another misstep on the Dems part to further point out their culpability in this fiasco.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 12:04 PM

Let that last one sink in a minute. Your candidate couldn't beat an adjuicated rapist and a multiple times felon for mishandling classified information.. Oh, and the hush money
Yeah, that guy...

Let it sink in that even when your party had a choice, they chose that.

As bad as corky is for continuing to cling to Harris being a good choice, you and your party are far, far worse.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 12:06 PM

"but somehow it's always someone else's fault with you. You must have had everything handed to you in life. You sound like a spoiled trust fund brat."

Look at how everyone is stomping around in a perpetual temper tantrum.

It's about feeling entitled to happiness and it's someone else's job to deliver that happiness.

Look no further than ----------- for the poster child of this syndrome.

Some don't have it in them to come here and wail & gnash their teeth at the moment.

They'll return.....just not for a while.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-12 12:23 PM

Let it sink in that even when your party had a choice, they chose that.

As bad as corky is for continuing to cling to Harris being a good choice, you and your party are far, far worse.

#27 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2024-11-12 12:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG

My party had a primary. End of discussion

#29 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-12 01:09 PM

you nominated a rapist then voted for him. discuss.

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-12 01:16 PM

My party had a primary. End of discussion

#29 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I'm well aware.

Why do you think I pointed out that you CHOSE Trump?

So if it's a huge knock on Harris that she lost to it, it's an even greater knock on YOU that you chose it and voted for it.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-12 02:42 PM

My party had a primary. End of discussion

#29 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You voted for a rapist, magat scum

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-12 02:44 PM

Look no further than [TruthHurts] for the poster child of this syndrome.
Some don't have it in them to come here and wail & gnash their teeth at the moment.
They'll return.....just not for a while.
#28 | Posted by eberly

Say what you will about the Dem reaction, but for all their flaws they won't be denying the election results for four years or throwing an insurrection. And they would be highly unlikely to support anyone who does in the next election.

#33 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-12 03:05 PM

33

couldn't agree more

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-12 03:10 PM

"you nominated a rapist then voted for him. discuss."

en.wikipedia.org

are we gonna keep on with this whole rapist thing when you've knowingly supported one for president?

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-12 03:12 PM

I wish she had campaigned on the basis of being a former prosecutor who would push the DOJ to go far beyond the attempted prosecutions we had seen up to that point.

#36 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2024-11-13 01:50 AM

As bad as corky is for continuing to cling to Harris being a good choice, you and your party are far, far worse.

#27 | Posted by jpw

Nailed it.

#37 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-11-13 10:24 AM

>Say what you will about the Dem reaction, but for all their flaws they won't be denying the election results for four years or throwing an insurrection. And they would be highly unlikely to support anyone who does in the next election.
#33 | Posted by censored

couldn't agree more
#34 | Posted by eberly

Actually, looks like I may have spoken too soon.

The Daily Beast
BlueAnon' Conspiracies Grip Dems After Trump's Election Sweep
www.yahoo.com
Let the stupidity commence!

#38 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-13 10:56 AM

" You voted for a rapist, magat scum

#32 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-11-12 02:44 PM | FLAG: "

Bill Clinton: Hold my beer.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-14 03:33 PM

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