Monday, December 02, 2024

Supreme Court to Hear Historic Transgender Case

The case, which centers on a Tennessee law, will allow the U.S. Supreme Court Justices to decide whether gender-affirming-care bans for minors are unconstitutional under the basis of sex discrimination.

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The case SHOULD be simple. The Equal Protection Clause prohibits gender based discrimination for health care.

IOW a state should not be allowed to prohibit healthcare to one gender assigned at birth that is available to another gender assigned birth.

Hormone therapy is used all the time by cis-gender youths to stimulate or delay puberty.

Body augmentation is done all the time on cis-gender youths.

It SHOULD be easy to conclude that to be consistent with the Equal Protection Clause that a medical procedure open to one group cannot be denied others.

Republicans, being hateful bigots, will find a way though.

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-02 05:06 PM

The decision should be between the patient, parents of a minor, and their doctor. No idiot politician with a GED needs to get involved.

#2 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2024-12-02 06:14 PM

Hurry.... Trump is about to fix this....

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-02 08:46 PM

"The decision should be between the patient, parents of a minor, and their doctor. No idiot politician with a GED needs to get involved."

Now do FGM.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-12-03 07:37 AM

Now do FGM.
#4 | Posted by sentinel

No, thanks. I've been trying to cut down.

#5 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-03 07:40 AM

While I do believe in Trans rights, I really struggle with allowing children to make these decisions. The reason being they don't KNOW what they are doing and don't have the ability to make an informed decision. If they had that ability we would consider them adults.

On the other hand the only time the GOP wants to consider them adults is when there is a crime...

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-12-03 02:30 PM

The decision should be between the patient, parents of a minor, and their doctor. No idiot politician with a GED needs to get involved.

#2 | Posted by SomebodyElse

I think all too often a parent is being an influencer.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-12-03 02:32 PM

While I do believe in Trans rights, I really struggle with allowing children to make these decisions.

I believe this is where a lot of people who are Pro Transgender rights find themselves conflicted.

For all the reasons you mention.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-03 02:34 PM

Transgenders don't exist. Medical care that violates the Hippocratic oath should be banned. This "care" isn't done for survival or to allow the body to work as it should and in fact has the opposite affect where it prohibits your body from functioning correctly.

#9 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-12-03 03:33 PM

Transgenders don't exist.
#9 | POSTED BY THEBULL

Then what's all the fuss over?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-03 03:52 PM

Medical care that violates the Hippocratic oath should be banned.

In 1973, the US Supreme Court rejected the oath as a guide to medical ethics and practice by stating that the oath is incapable of covering the latest developments and methods of medical practice and research.

Most doctors say the oath is irrelevant in modern medical practice because it does not address ethical issues that are relevant today.

Also, the phrase "first do no harm" is not even stated in the original text.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-03 04:37 PM

Trump is about to fix this....

#3 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Trumpy is actually gonna "fix" something?

Ha ha. That's funny.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-03 04:41 PM

Transgenderism is, according to some, a form gnosis:

"Gnosis has multiple meanings, including a Greek word, a medical term, and a religious concept:
Greek word

The Greek word gnosis is a noun that means "knowledge" or "awareness". It was used in Hellenistic religions and philosophies, and is often associated with personal knowledge.

Medical term

In medicine, gnosis is a noun that means "knowledge of spiritual matters" or "mystical knowledge". It can also be used as a combining form to mean "knowledge". For example, the word prognosis uses the combining form -gnosis.

Religious concept

In a religious context, gnosis is mystical or esoteric knowledge based on direct participation with the divine. Gnostics believed that salvation could be achieved through knowledge and not through faith.

Gnostic beliefs resemble dualism, which is the view that the universe is structured by two opposing forces, good and evil.

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The point being that in gnosis, individual conscious reality is constructed from within, not from without. Or more within than without, at least in certain respects.

In religion, it is knowledge direct from God his own self, not faith in what can be determined from external physical evidence.

Transgenders, or anyone else, who finds reality based on what they feel inside, whatever that might be, rather than what they see outside could be said to be gnostics.

Much like Holy Rollers, who know because they know because they know... not because they have faith in what they can see and know outsides themselves, but because of a strong belief in what they feel inside.

(Am I going to get into trouble for saying that? 8*)

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-03 04:45 PM

First freaking sentence should be.... form of gnosis.... I'm still looking to appoint a new Editor to my Cabinet.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-03 04:47 PM

I'm still looking to appoint a new Editor to my Cabinet.

#14 | POSTED BY CORKY

Me too!

The stuff in my Cabinet does not help with my editing one bit!

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-03 04:56 PM

Trump is about to fix this....
#3 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Trumpy is actually gonna "fix" something?
Ha ha. That's funny.
#12 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

He's going the fix his depleted bank account and debts.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-03 05:03 PM

Re 16

Yeah. I guess we all have a different definition of "fix".

I think of fixing things to make them better.

Trumpers probably use "fix" as in: "to fix (a boxing match): to cheat and decide the result (of a boxing match) in advance"

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-03 05:11 PM

While I do believe in Trans rights, I really struggle with allowing children to make these decisions. The reason being they don't KNOW what they are doing and don't have the ability to make an informed decision. If they had that ability we would consider them adults.

On the other hand the only time the GOP wants to consider them adults is when there is a crime...

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePet

Yeah, but you see, gender affirming care is not a kid comes in and says I think I am another gender, ok, lets chop off his private parts.

It does not work that way.

When done appropriately (and I am not arguing there aren't occurrences of unethical behavior not adequately treating the child), gender affirming care is a long PROCESS.

GAC may be something as simple as affirming the trans child's gender identity with a new name or through dress.

GAC can be done solely in a safe place like in the home.

GAC encompasses a wide range of therapies, consultations with a variety of medical professionals, issues, dress, language, names, and yes eventually medication and occasionally surgery

GAC can and should and does include professional therapists to parse body dysmorphia issues from transgenderism.

GAC can and should and does allow children to explore their gender identity and be allowed to say you know what I am not trans I am gay or something similar.

GAC can and should and is a process that safely allows the child to explore his or her or their identity in a safe, nurturing, loving, non-judgmental and open-minded environment.

It is simply not a thing that gender affirming surgeries are being performed willy-nilly except in those cases (if any) where the medical professional is acting unethically and likely illegally.

And it must be clear that trans people only want to live their lives, they are NOT interested in indoctrinating or brainwashing your kids.

People can start by considering trans people as human beings deserving of respect.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-03 05:28 PM

People can start by considering trans people as human beings deserving of respect.

#18 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

People do.

Maga don't play that.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-03 05:34 PM

re: #18 Truthhurts

If only people would seek to be better informed rather than seeking confirmation of their biases. And if only they weren't @$$#013$

#20 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-12-03 06:11 PM

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