How Hamas's October 7th Attacks Lead to the Fall of Assad

Monday, December 09, 2024

For years, support from Iran, Hezbollah and Russia sustained Assad. But Russia has been drained and distracted by war in Ukraine. Iran and Hezbollah have taken a drubbing from Israel. That opened the door for HTS to launch its decisive assault against the Assad regime, which became another unintended casualty of Sinwar's genocidal dream.

Posted by censored at 09:33 PM | 35 COMMENTS | permalink

"The Oct. 7 Hamas massacre is turning out to be a miscalculation for the ages, leading to defeats for the forces of Mideast mayhem."After the Fall of Syria's Assad https://t.co/8jNsMbIRdT
" Bruce Hoffman (@hoffman_bruce) December 9, 2024

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TLDR: Hamas attacked Israel. Hezbollah joined in. Israel retaliated by demolishing HizBawlzOff. HizBawlzOff could no longer assist Assad. The Syrian rebels took advantage of Assad's lack of manpower.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-09 06:37 PM

Israel is committing genocide, has committed and publicly documented (and continues to commit and publicly document) untold numbers of war crimes, atrocities, rapes, assaults, murders and other perverted acts of terror on women, children, babies and the disabled and has completely exposed itself as an ethno-supremacist, fascist pariah state run by a bunch manipulative psychopaths. And now the whole world knows it, forever.

It also has exposed the entirety of the American political and media establishment as nothing more than a spineless bunch of Zionist bootlicking simps and has completely annihilated and reduced to a complete fraud the whole notion of a western "rules based international order."

Talk about miscalculations!

#2 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-09 10:04 PM

Israel is going to fall in my lifetime.

#3 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-09 10:09 PM

" Israel is going to fall in my lifetime.

#3 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-12-09 10:09 PM | FLAG: "

No. Way too much military power.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 11:40 PM

You may be correct, sir... the estimate I hear is 8-12 years until the 3rd Temple, which Permit sits in the Jerusalem Permit Office, still needs to be built as Peace settles on the Middle East.

A 7 year pact built on Trump's Abraham Accords... which he himself will break halfway through by attacking... Israel.

this vid/text has that surprise ending:

antichrist45.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 11:45 PM

I hope you're right, bellringer.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-09 11:55 PM

I hope you're right, bellringer.

He's about as Right as it gets.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-10 12:32 AM

" Israel is going to fall in my lifetime.
#3 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-12-09 10:09 PM | FLAG: "
No. Way too much military power.
#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 11:40 PM

There is evidence that Israel is using thermobaric weapons.

Civilians melted, turned to ash is being reported.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-12-10 01:26 AM

Israel won't last long term. They have shown the world who they are too many times.

Apartheid South Africa lasted a long time...until it unravelled.

Nazi Germany seemed strong....until it wasn't anymore.

Israel will join them in oblivion.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 03:52 AM

There is evidence that Israel is using thermobaric weapons.
Civilians melted, turned to ash is being reported.
#8 | Posted by redlightrobot

Your newfound concern for the well-being of civilians is duly noted.

#10 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-10 07:41 AM

Your newfound concern for the well-being of civilians is duly noted.
#10 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Your overwhelming glee for the on going genocide has been well documented and is absolutely disgusting.

But hey, you're an active case study on how the citizens of Germany cheered on the Nazis.

I never really understood it. Thanks for being an example.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-10 11:12 AM

Apartheid South Africa lasted a long time...until it unravelled.

South Africa didn't have the United States backing them.

Israel won't last long term.

Not if Trump and his administration successfully destroy our nation.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-10 11:14 AM

Clownshack is butt hurt that Israel has weakened his motherland of Iran. Clownshack jerked off a ton on 10/7.

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-10 12:23 PM

I'm hurt you bad, didn't I.

Calling you out for being a liar, a xenophobe and a transphobe has really gotten to you.

Keep eating Trump's shht and telling us how much you love McDonald's.

You stupid sack of shht.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-10 12:28 PM

Apartheid South Africa lasted a long time...until it unravelled.

Nazi Germany seemed strong....until it wasn't anymore.

Israel will join them in oblivion.

#9 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Thanks Nostradamus!

Israel is doing pretty well so far considering it is right smack in the middle of hostiles and is completely surrounded by its mortal enemies.

No civilization/culture (good or bad) lasts forever.

Even America with all its advanced tech is not immune to the winds of change.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 12:43 PM

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer

You don't seem to know too much...

South Africa is still there as South Africa. Did the government and policies of the country change? Yes and in the end it was mostly peacefully. The country is now a swamp of crime though, they already had the violence but it seems worse too.

Nazi Germany was very strong. The US economy was stronger. That was their miscalculation and reason for their fall - the US. The massive amounts of aid we pumped into the USSR and UK along with our manpower turned the war. If we allowed the USSR to fall, and it would have without us, we would not have won or it would have been a massive slog compared to what it was. Germany would have had the Russian oil fields though.

Trump will pump Israel up. With their F-35s and other military apparatus no power in the region can compete. Israel has been attacked over and over. The population and their military power continue to grow. If anyone will drop a nuke - it will be them.

#16 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-12-10 12:50 PM

Surrounded by mortal enemies? Whose doing was that?

Israel created all of those enemies all by itself. The 800 lb. Gorilla is the US.

Support for Israel among the young is at it's Nadir. If the US turns on them, they're Gone. It's not as impossible as it seems.

Apartheid South Africa was backed by the US for decades until it wasn't.

Times change, Public Opinions and foreign policies evolve.

Israel is setting itself up to become another failed state.

The Arabs have Time on their side.

Israel? Not so much.

I doubt I will live to see it but I have no doubt that their endeavor will Fail.

Big Time.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 12:57 PM

Israel may survive as Israel. But the "Jewish State" won't. In my opinion they will evolve into a multi ethnic society of equal rights for all, or be Destroyed in War brought on by their own excesses.

Israel is the Least sustainable society I can think of. Sustained by US aid and European guilt, built as a crucible of religious intolerance and ethnic Supremacy, they will destroy themselves.

Or be Destroyed by others Sick of the spectacle of violence and Arrogance.

Much like Nazi Germany was. Germany still exists as Germany,the Nazis are extinct.

The Jewish State as such will Die as well.

And as Rightfully so.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 01:12 PM

Surrounded by mortal enemies? Whose doing was that?

The countries that declared themselves mortal enemies.

"I have no doubt that their endeavor will Fail."

Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.

Israel has nukes. They aren't going anywhere until they use them.

No wonder you are so bummed. Iran's "Ring of Fire" is collapsing. Right now. Before your eyes.

Which is making Israel that much more secure.

So yeah. It will be a while. So don't hold yer breath.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 01:14 PM

In my opinion they will evolve into a multi ethnic society of equal rights for all ...

Well now. That's not a bad goal.

I am still hopeful for the same thing right here in America!

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-10 01:17 PM

The Big difference is that the US is in the "hearts and minds" phase of becoming truly inclusive, much like South Africa is.

Israel is worse than the "Jim Crow" South or even Apartheid South Africa.

They are like Nazi Germany at this point.

If it takes Nukes to stop them... So Be It.

Be careful what you wish for.

#21 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 01:25 PM

Israel is Tiny. They have NO STRATEGIC DEPTH. Iran can take much more punishment than Israel ever could. Israel is the size of New Jersey. Iran is the size of four Texas's. 1,000,000 Sq. Miles, vs.8,000

Do the math.

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 01:29 PM

Correction: 636,000 Sq miles. Kilometers it's 1.5 million.

Wars are not won by land area, but ability to persist is closely tied to it.

Israel is an artificial thing. Imposed and created by outsiders.

A Colony as it were. In a sea of otherness.

They will adapt and survive or be Destroyed.

Just my opinion, but an honest one.

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 01:35 PM

Do the math.

What does land area have to do with anything? Other than maybe missile defense is a lot easier with a smaller territory to defend.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-10 01:35 PM

Resources, population, industrial capacity. Russia is holding off the entire West.

Could Israel?

Land area is why the US is a superpower at least in part.

Isolation from other great powers also helped.

Is Holland a superpower? It's twice the land area of Israel. Germany punched above it's weight, but Russia kicked it's ass, and would have without the West.

It just would have taken longer.

Can you name one superpower that's not continental in size?

I'll Wait.

#25 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 01:50 PM

Can you name one superpower that's not continental in size?

Canada is the second largest country in the world by area.

On your knees, peasant.

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-10 01:54 PM

Australia is also huge. Countries can be continental in size and not superpowers, Brazil also comes to mind.

My question was, name one superpower that isn't continental in size?

To my knowledge there isn't one. China is effectively continental in size because Asia is so huge.

So once again, I'll wait..

#27 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 02:06 PM

My question was, name one superpower that isn't continental in size?

Have you heard of the British Empire? They were quite the thing back in the day. Sun never sets and all that.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-10 02:27 PM

When Europe took over Jerusalem during the Crusades, they lasted 100 years until the arrival of Saladin. I expect Israel to last about that long this time around also.

#29 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-12-10 03:05 PM

The British Empire was an archipelago of Colonies.

They did quality as superpower in The Day.

Today Britain is a Regional power of intermediate influence like say, Iran.

Also a Vassal of the US.

Impressive on the local scale but No superpower.

Without NATO, Turkey is more formidable than Britain.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 05:47 PM

"Russia vs. Nato: which side would win in a war?

Threat growing even though Vladimir Putin knows conflict with the Western military alliance would be 'political and military suicide'"

theweek.com

And Oligarchs are not known for their suicidal tendencies.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-10 05:56 PM

I expect Israel to last about that long this time around also.

#29 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-12-10 03:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Based on what? It is already 76 years old. It has won every single war it has been in.

Current events of note:

* Russian military production is set back 30 years. The Russian Expeditionary Force was 96% destroyed. The Russian Convict Army was 96% destroyed. It's on its third generation of Army in 1 regional border war. The Black Sea Fleet is mostly destroyed.
* The IAF destroyed Iran's air defenses in a day and missile production pummeled.
* The Syrian Army doesn't exist anymore, along with all of its infrastructure.
* Entire Iraqi militias backed by Iran were wiped out by US airstrikes headed for Syria.
* Hamas middle management is mostly dead or in prison. Senior management was evicted from Qatar and fled to a NATO member (Turkey).
* Hezbollah middle and upper management is mostly dead.
* It's not physically possible for Egypt to cross the North Sinai against the next 100 years of projected IAF air power.
* All the Houthi can do are shoot missiles and drones that get intercepted, and their supply line was thoroughly bombed by the IAF attacking Iran.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-11 10:35 AM

And Russia's economy is a basket case.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-11 11:18 AM

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Don't bring sense and rationality to a discussion on Israel. It's all about fee-fees with the anti-Israel crowd.

Also, you didn't mention Israel's Jewclear weapons. Some might suggest that is a relevant factor to consider when a nation's defense against external forces is the topic.

#34 | Posted by censored at 2024-12-11 03:53 PM

And Russia's economy is a basket case.

#33 | POSTED BY CORKY

They only have to make it one more month and then it's Trumpy to the rescue!

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-11 04:13 PM

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