Trump Nixes House Budget Deal

Another view ...

Major heartburn erupts over Mike Johnson's spending bill
www.axios.com

... On top of the anticipated conservative opposition to House Speaker Mike Johnson's (R-La.) deal with Democrats to fund the government, consternation is emerging from unusual corners of Congress.

Why it matters: Provisions raising congressional pay and allowing members of Congress to opt out of the Affordable Care Act have some lawmakers sweating the potential political fallout.

- - - "They all want the [pay raise] and actual health insurance but don't want to vote for them," one House Republican told Axios.

- - - "There's some grumbling," said a senior House Democrat.

Driving the news: The spending bill would repeal language in a stopgap spending bill passed earlier this year that freezes an automatic cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) for members of Congress.

- - - It would be the first time since 2009 that members of Congress got a pay increase.

- - - It also includes language that would allow members to join the Federal Employee Health Benefits plan.

State of play: House Republicans' conservative wing is lining up against the bill, which they say is over-stuffed with legislative hobby horses. Some are singling out the pay raise in their condemnations. ...

If you're interested, imo, the entire article is worth a read.

Also this ...

Trump brings chaos back to Washington by attempting to kill bipartisan budget deal with Musk's help
apnews.com

... President-elect Donald Trump delivered a likely death blow to bipartisan congressional budget negotiations on Wednesday, rejecting the measure as full of giveaways to Democrats after billionaire ally Elon Musk whipped up outrage toward the bill and cheered on Republican lawmakers who announced their opposition. ...

OK, parsing that ...

Pres-elect trump only seemed to be against it after co-Pres-elect (imo, of course. or not) Musk mounted his campaign against it?

(asking for a friend)

So, going forward, the United States will be governed by X postings?

after co-Pres-elect

That would be Senior Co-President Elect, if you don't mind.

So, going forward, the United States will be governed by X postings?

Hasn't it been for a while now? It will be really funny when Senior Co-President Elon shuts down the inefficient and redundant Truth Social app.

@#4 ... That would be Senior Co-President Elect, ...

What is the distinction you draw to earn the Senior appellation?

@#4 ... Hasn't it been for a while now? ...

Sadly, imo, more of an influence than I think may be appropriate.

But such seems to be Social Media of late.

Raising the Debt Limit allows for bigger cuts for billionares like himself and his Oligarch friends... who apparently haven't learned the lesson of Oligarchs in Russia who are now afraid for their very lives.

I mean, DJT can't get all the money for huge tax cuts just by cutting social security and medicare, no can he?

"And in a post on X, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) accused Trump of wanting Democrats "to agree to raise the debt ceiling so he can pass his massive corporate and billionaire tax cut without a problem."

"Shorter version: tax cut for billionaires or the government shuts down for Christmas," he added.

The debt ceiling puts a limit on how much money the Treasury can owe to cover the country's bills. The national debt currently stands at more than $36 trillion."

thehill.com

So THIS is what Trumpers voted for; raising the Debt by trillions to give those trillions to Oligarchs who will invest in Bitcoin, which is also going to be Guarantied by tax payers, and then have two ways to cover their loses.

"Elon Musk's influence over President-elect Donald Trump has made him the true "president-elect," according to David Axelrod, ex-adviser to former President Barack Obama.

"So will President-elect Musk join the budget negotiations now?" Axelrod wrote on X, formerly Twitter."

www.newsweek.com

Whoa, that's an interesting article you cite ...

The title is: Lawmakers caught off guard by Trump debt ceiling demand

From that article...

...Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle appeared caught off guard on Wednesday as President-elect Trump demanded that a debt ceiling hike be paired with a stopgap government funding bill, rejecting a sweeping bipartisan plan to avert a government shutdown this week.

Trump said in a joint statement with Vice President-elect J.D. Vance said that while the party wants disaster aid and support for farmers -- issues that are tackled in the temporary funding plan -- he wants Congress to pass a "streamlined spending bill" that doesn't give Democrats "everything they want" and has "an increase in the debt ceiling."

"The most foolish and inept thing ever done by Congressional Republicans was allowing our country to hit the debt ceiling in 2025. It was a mistake and is now something that must be addressed," the statement read.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the top Republican on the Senate Appropriations Committee, said she was "surprised" by the demand. ...

If you're interested, imo, the entire article is worth a read.
#2 | Posted by LampLighter

I am interested.

Please post the rest of the article.

@#9

Forgot to add, my comment was directed at the link in #7.

Corkythebigot please post the rest of the article, seems interesting

Any more from that article?

Seems pertinent.

@#10 ... Please post the rest of the article. ...

It's called the "web" for a reason.

Just follow the link I posted.

What is the distinction you draw to earn the Senior appellation?

Gives Elon 50.1% of the Co-Presidency to Lewzer's 49.9%. In truth it's likely far higher than that.

"The most foolish and inept thing ever done by Congressional Republicans was allowing our country to hit the debt ceiling in 2025."

Interesting take.

A new provision in the latest CR lets Congress block subpoenas for House data, including emails, potentially preventing any investigation into the J6 Committee.

No one is above the law, except congress I guess.

It's called the "web" for a reason.
Just follow the link I posted.
:)
#14 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Then why do you post so much of the article? If its called the "web" for a reason, just provide the link and a headline?

So please pretty please post the whole article.

So please pretty please post the whole article.

Site management has said something about "don't post whole articles".

Users who post links to articles hosted on other sites should not reproduce the full text of the article in their blog entries. When sharing a link, write a headline and a summary that describe the linked article and perhaps include a brief excerpt or quote. Readers can follow the link to read the article in full.

I knew I read that somewhere.

@#17 ... Then why do you post so much of the article? ...

The deflection attempts of your current alias seem to be getting weaker and weaker.

What else yer got?

Maybe a comment on the topic of the article?

Of course, that may be too much to ask from your current alias.

;)

@#18 ... Site management has said something about "don't post whole articles". ...

Yeah, but more interesting to me on this thread is the apparent lame deflection attempt.

What is the concern about the topic of the thread that seems to require such a lame deflection attempt?

What is the concern

It's safe to assume he is whining about something.

More from the article in #7

... "If you just walk away and say. We're just raising the debt ceiling, in some ways, you pay a penalty by higher interest rates into the future," he said. "There's no more free options anymore." ...

Higher interest rates.

Trump has promised lower interest rates. That will be largely out of his control. (November 2024)
www.nbcnews.com

... While Trump has sought to pressure the Fed to cut rates, consumer rates on mortgages and other loans are determined by a range of factors largely outside the president's control. ...

So, Pres-elect Trump seems to be promising something he cannot deliver?

seems to be promising something he cannot deliver?

That's one of his superpowers.

@#24 ... That's one of his superpowers. ...

Similar to his saying that Mexico would pay for the wall?

Good grief, who believes his verbal miasma?

Good grief, who believes his verbal miasma?

Mostly those who tithe to the Cult of Lewzer.

Pres. Musk has spoken. Now let it be done. Wonder how long Trump playing second fiddle to that piece of human wreckage will play. Lol. Oh, yes, with butter, thanks.

Wonder how long Trump playing second fiddle to that piece of human wreckage will play.

So long as he gets credit for it while he can sit back and golf all day.

Dotard doesn't want to do any of the work, but wants all the accolades.

Fine blow up the deal, shut down the government and hurt everyday Americans because well they're asshats...that's their brand.

this needs to pass.....so the following "essential" spending crap can be paid for .....by you !!

Members of Congress would be get pay raise

A provision that allows lawmakers to opt out of Obamacare and use the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program instead

Language on transparency in concert ticket pricing

The federal government paying the entire bill to rebuild the Francis Scott Key Bridge

Accountability for recycling and composting fraud

A "Feral Swine Eradication" program

A continuation of the "Wool Trust Fund" until 2025

Paying for juvenile delinquents to get their driver's license

Extending a "sheep marketing grant program" until 2025

The Global Engagement Center, the State Department's office dedicated to censorship, will get another year of funding

Spending $3 million dollars to test the inspection of molasses

---idiotic morons.

#30 | Posted by shrimptacodan

The last time that Donald shut down the government, I couldn't get my product copyrighted.

That directly cut into my work and income.

30 | Posted by shrimptacodan

This is how Donald begins to hurt people. Whatever he does from herein out, Americans will be hurt.

He will hurt us because he's stupid, he will hurt us because it feeds his ego, he will hurt us out of revenge, he will hurt us because he personally wants himself and his friends to make a profit.

We have a venal. mentally ill person in charge of our futures. Our best hope really does amount to his early death.

#30 | Posted by shrimptacodan

The last time Donald shut down the government, hikers lost in national parks died because there was no funding to search for them.

Putin's demented orange bitch is already ------- things up. Vlad must be ecstatic.

If you're just catching up: the Republican Party, taking orders from the world's richest man, is on course to shut down the government over the holidays, stopping paychecks for our troops and nutrition benefits for low-income families just in time for Christmas."

- Hillary Clinton -

Talk about the real war on Christmas.

Unemployment at the hands of Elon Musk, just in time for Christmas.

This is what Deplorable Trumping MAGAts voted for.

'REPUBLICANS CUT CHILD CANCER RESEARCH FROM FUNDING BILL AFTER MUSK'S MEDDLING'

www.rollingstone.com

Considering the Trumps stole 2 million from their child cancer charity already.

www.npr.org

Seems to me, the Trumps are adamantly opposed to child cancer research and treatment.

Wow,

Musk needs a visit from a few ghosts doesn't he?

Anyways, we get the government we vote for, and americans voted to be fleeced by perverted billionaires.

Unemployment at the hands of Elon Musk, just in time for Christmas.

This is what Deplorable Trumping MAGAts voted for.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-19 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was literally part of the campaign platform, they ran on the mass firing of government employees.

@#36 ... Unemployment at the hands of Elon Musk, just in time for Christmas. ...

Troop Pay Could Be Delayed Under Elon Musk-Inspired Government Shutdown
www.military.com

... U.S. service members could miss their paychecks at the end of the month if the federal government shuts down this weekend, as the world's richest man Elon Musk, a close ally of President-elect Donald Trump, is advocating.

The potential loss of pay in the midst of the holiday season was looming Thursday after plans negotiated by Republicans and Democrats in Congress to fund the government and avert a shutdown on Saturday were derailed, largely by Musk. The billionaire spent all day Wednesday raging against the legislation on the social media platform he owns, X ...