Wednesday, January 22, 2025

Trump designates TDA and MS-13 as terrorist organizations

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Monday to designate drug cartels and foreign criminal groups as terrorist organizations. The order singled out Mexican drug cartels and Latin American criminal gangs such as the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua and the Salvadoran Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) that, "threaten the safety of the American people, the security of the United States and the stability of the international order in the Western Hemisphere."

Posted by lfthndthrds at 10:31 AM | 76 COMMENTS | permalink

Comments

That's rich. The man just pardoned 1,500 actual terrorists.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-01-22 10:37 AM

Donald is setting the stage for a war.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-22 11:46 AM

Deadpool for the first airstrikes and/or special ops against Venezuela, El Salvador, and of course Mexico?

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-22 11:49 AM

Donald is setting the stage for a war.
#2 | POSTED BY ZED


Yup.

If Mexico does not allow us to pursue anyone designated as a terrorist and that country cannot subdue them then we are now authorized to enter that country and eliminate the terrorist threat.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-22 11:59 AM

He also just put Russia in it's place

"Let's get this war, which never would have started if I were President, over with! We can do it the easy way, or the hard way " and the easy way is always better," Trump wrote on Truth Social.

www.cnbc.com

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-22 12:49 PM

He (Donald) also just put Russia in it's place

#5 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Putrin's not afraid of his pet.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-22 12:53 PM

"We can do it the easy way, or the hard way "

So is the Prince of Peace threatening war, AGAIN, or is he just being a loud mouth, AGAIN?

The correct answer is both.

You know, if there is a war, then kiss your eggs and hamburgers good bye.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-22 12:54 PM

#5 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You have never heard of the word "megalomaniac", have you.

Donald is a braggadocious bitch who is selling wolf tickets because he really does think he is a god.

I hope that you pay for his insanity first.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-22 12:58 PM

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The same people who vehemently insist we shouldn't believe everything Trump says when he screws up are now telling us to believe everything Trump says.

#9 | Posted by qcp at 2025-01-22 01:25 PM

And all of the folks that cried about the Patriot Act will step in line and cheer this as domestic law enforcement gets juiced with never ending terrorist declarations and "emergencies."

They'll quietly ignore Trump governing by abusing powers meant for extraordinary times.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-22 03:57 PM

Let's get this war, which never would have started if I were President, over with! We can do it the easy way, or the hard way " and the easy way is always better," Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Lol yeah Putin really knows who's boss now!

Can't wait for Trump to start using the Us military abroad and you morons acting like America First ever existed.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-22 03:59 PM

Lol yeah Putin really knows who's boss now!

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-22 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

It sure wasn't fkkin Brandon. You never heard that out of him, Dr ---------.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-22 08:21 PM

- And all of the folks that cried about the Patriot Act

Will stand here and say it was an abuse of power just like everyone on the left said.... Until the left didn't say it anymore... You gave up your right to speak about freedom when you cheered on everyone losing their job over a shot. Show yourself out Dr. Dipschitt.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-22 08:27 PM

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds

STFU you delusion idiot. You've been conned so be graceful about it and piss off.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The excuses have already begun.

Buy ammo folks. A gun and ammo if you don't have either. Ask for advice if you're unsure of what to buy, preferably from someone who can help you shoot different types/makes/models of guns.

All they need is a thin veneer of 'but they ddddiiiiiiid it toooooo' to force the worse on the rest of us.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-23 03:08 AM

Does anyone disagree that these groups should be designated as terrorist groups?

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 12:50 PM

FFS Biden designated Catholics and outspoken parents as terrorist groups.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 12:51 PM

To the best of my knowledge nobody on the left had a problem with that.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 12:52 PM

FFS Biden designated Catholics and outspoken parents as terrorist groups.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger

That's a rather pathetic lie even for you.

You really can't even defend Trump anymore can you?

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 12:56 PM

Does anyone disagree that these groups should be designated as terrorist groups?

#15 | Posted by BellRinger

Since they aren't terrorist organizations, yes.

Otherwise the designation is meaningless.

Are you telling me MS-13 is the same as Al Qaeda and ISIS?

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 12:57 PM

" That's a rather pathetic lie even for you."

Uh huh.

" Remember the tempest this year when the Federal Bureau of Investigation was found to be targeting some Catholics as "extremists?" The bureau cast it as the work of a single rogue field office. Well, it looks like the effort was more widespread than our G-men admitted to the public."

www.wsj.com

" Memo which compared parents to terrorists requested by education secretary, report says"

katv.com

You know these things happened. Problem is you cheered it on.

" Since they aren't terrorist organizations, yes"

So, MS-13 is just a bunch of good dudes who are misunderstood?
They are extremely violent and traffic fentanyl and humans. Sounds pretty terroristic to me.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 01:20 PM

"outspoken parents"

your favorite lie among many.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 01:22 PM

Threatening school boards with violence makes one a terroristic activity Jeff. Your dishonesty is palpable.

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-23 01:24 PM

It was a local law enforcement issue. The FBI had no jurisdiction.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 01:36 PM

Stick with those parents are way worse than MS-13 gang members. That's a winning argument.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 01:37 PM

Stick with those parents are way worse than MS-13 gang members.

#24 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I'll bet those school baords were never threatened by M@-13.

They were threatened by your little friends.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-23 01:39 PM

#24 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Donald will start new wars, with at least three separate countries. These terrorist designations are the first step.

You people will take anything from the man. You're pathetic.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-23 01:41 PM

www.casb.org

OnSeptember 29, the National School Boards Association (NSBA) sent a letter to the President asking for federal assistance to stop threats and acts of violence against public schoolchildren, public school board members, and other public school district officials. In the days since, there has been some misinformation about what is"and what is not"in the letter, as well as questions about why NSBA sent the letter. NSBA is providing this Frequently Asked Questions document to help state association members address members' concerns, correct misconceptions, and more fully explain NSBA's position.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-23 01:44 PM

" The FBI had no jurisdiction."

You're a liar.

The FBI is responsible for domestic terror threats. These folks didn't "speak up", they threatened violence and death unless the public servants reversed their stance.

You know ... THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF TERRORISM.

It says a lot about you, that you're still lying about it after being corrected at least two dozen times.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-23 01:46 PM

" It was a local law enforcement issue. "

what issue? according to you the parents didnt do anything wrong.

you suck at this.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 01:49 PM

" Since they aren't terrorist organizations, yes"

So, MS-13 is just a bunch of good dudes who are misunderstood?
They are extremely violent and traffic fentanyl and humans. Sounds pretty terroristic to me.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger

Being a violent gang isn't terrorism. If it is, everything criminal and violent becomes terrorism.

How hard is that to understand?

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 01:49 PM

" The FBI had no jurisdiction."

You're a liar.

The FBI is responsible for domestic terror threats. These folks didn't "speak up", they threatened violence and death unless the public servants reversed their stance.

You know ... THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF TERRORISM.

It says a lot about you, that you're still lying about it after being corrected at least two dozen times.

#28 | Posted by Danforth

You have to remember Jeff's point of view:

If Jeff agrees with them, it's not terrorism. They are allowed to threaten and even kill to get their way.

Look at the J6 Pardons.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 01:50 PM

Does anyone disagree that these groups should be designated as terrorist groups?

#15 | Posted by BellRinger

I disagree.

They are criminal organizations and should be pursued via criminal justice actions.

Designating them terrorists is incredibly stupid and dangerous.

Consider how we handle other terrorist organizations, regularly bombing Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iraq...

We should NOT be bombing a dozen Central and South American countries.

Considering them terrorist organizations opens up a whole slew of financial instruments that while tempting create far more problems then they solve.

These cartels are intertwined with many of the governments and international corporations. Are we going to be sanctioning the presidents of a half dozen countries?

How will that further destabilize these countries driving them further into narco syndication and driving immigration to our country.

It is a stupid and immoral choice

Not surprising the immoral and stupid jeff supports it.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-23 01:57 PM

" The FBI is responsible for domestic terror threats. These folks didn't "speak up", they threatened violence and death unless the public servants reversed their stance."

Every parent who spoke up engaged in violent threats?

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:00 PM

" Remember the tempest this year when the Federal Bureau of Investigation was found to be targeting some Catholics as "extremists?" The bureau cast it as the work of a single rogue field office. Well, it looks like the effort was more widespread than our G-men admitted to the public."
www.wsj.com

#20 | Posted by BellRinger

BTW, this turned out to be a lie...according to your own SOURCE.

www.nytimes.com

The actual memo "cited potential threats from self-identified Catholic extremists and "far-right white nationalists" in the run-up to the 2024 election."

Not Catholics in general.

This is why idiots like you need Fact Checking.

#34 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 02:00 PM

" If Jeff agrees with them, it's not terrorism. They are allowed to threaten and even kill to get their way"

You shovel more straw than a farmer.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:01 PM

" The FBI is responsible for domestic terror threats. These folks didn't "speak up", they threatened violence and death unless the public servants reversed their stance."

Every parent who spoke up engaged in violent threats?

#33 | Posted by BellRinger

So they should ignore the threats from the bad ones because there were some who didn't threaten to murder School Board Members and their families?

Interesting take.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 02:01 PM

WRT the federal investigation of the domestic terrorism around educators I will offer the following facts:

The instigation of the request for federal help was threatening emails, phone calls, and letters received by public elected officials.

It is in the center of the DoJ's remit to investigate threats against public officials that emanate through the mail, across phone and through the internet.

The people speaking up in meetings had zero to do with the investigation.

Look at it this way. Had a School Board member or two been killed by one of those sending the threatening letters and the FBI had not been investigating them would that not have been an outrage?

BTW this has been explained to jeff multiple times.

this is why he is a liar. This is why he is a despicable human being.

He knows the truth, yet insists on lying about it.

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-23 02:02 PM

Every parent who spoke up engaged in violent threats?

#33 | Posted by BellRinger a

Those were not the person's being investigated. You know this and you lie about it.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-23 02:03 PM

" If Jeff agrees with them, it's not terrorism. They are allowed to threaten and even kill to get their way"

You shovel more straw than a farmer.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

And you're a steaming pile of ----.

Sorry, you're every post proves it true.

J6ers pardoned? Okay.
Cops convicted of murder pardoned? Cool.
Parents threatening to kill School Boards? Absolutely fair.

There is no crime, including terrorism, you won't excuse for people who agree with you.

#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 02:03 PM

Jeff, try an experiment.
Send a threatening email to a local school board member.

See who comes knocking on your door.

You can argue with them they have no jurisdiction.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-23 02:07 PM

" So they should ignore the threats from the bad ones because there were some who didn't threaten to murder School Board Members and their families?"

Any real threats would be a local law enforcement issue. Unless local law enforcement requested the assistance of the FBI and to the best of my knowledge that never happened.

Usually the FBI is quiet about these types of investigations for obvious reasons. That this was so prominently announced was to sow fear in parents for speaking out.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:09 PM

" See who comes knocking on your door."

It would be a local cop. Because that is who it would be reported to.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:10 PM

" J6ers pardoned? Okay.". Not the violent ones. I said that earlier this morning on the thread about the pardons. Straw

" Cops convicted of murder pardoned? Cool"

Nope. More straw.

" Parents threatening to kill School Boards? Absolutely fair"

There is no excuse for threatening to kill someone. Yet, more straw.

" There is no crime, including terrorism, you won't excuse for people who agree with you.

#39 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-01-23 02:03 PM | FLAG: "

Says the guy who ferociously defends every single one of Biden's pardons and cheered on all of the violence of 2020.

You really need to look in the mirror and sit this out, sport.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:14 PM

You all were totally good with this:

" Much of that violence has been directed at law enforcement,
and it has taken a serious toll. During the 2020 riots, more than 900 law enforcement officers were injured, including 277 officer injuries while defending the federal courthouse in Portland, Oregon, and 60 Secret Service officers
defending the White House."

x.com

Source is Senate judiciary.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:19 PM

Patricide Jeff is ecstatic that his rapist hero's insurrection led to the deaths of 5 DC cops.

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-23 02:23 PM

Collateral Damage

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-23 02:28 PM

FFS Biden designated Catholics and outspoken parents as terrorist groups.

#16 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

GFY

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-23 02:42 PM

#47. They ended up apologizing over the Cartholic thing which probably pissed you off given your outward bigotry toward people of faith.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 02:54 PM

#47. They ended up apologizing over the Cartholic thing which probably pissed you off given your outward bigotry toward people of faith.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger

No. They ended up pulling the memo because Republicans lied about it.

Just like you did.

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 03:02 PM

You all were totally good with this:

" Much of that violence has been directed at law enforcement,
and it has taken a serious toll. During the 2020 riots, more than 900 law enforcement officers were injured, including 277 officer injuries while defending the federal courthouse in Portland, Oregon, and 60 Secret Service officers
defending the White House."

x.com

Source is Senate judiciary.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh yes, I remember ALL the calls for Pardons... right?

Oh. There were none? How odd.

I do remember you idiots cheering on police beating and attacking even peaceful protesters. Like in Minnesota, where cops drove around in a van after the protests and shot random people walking with rubber bullets for fun.

#50 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 03:04 PM

Any real threats would be a local law enforcement issue. Unless local law enforcement requested the assistance of the FBI and to the best of my knowledge that never happened.

Usually the FBI is quiet about these types of investigations for obvious reasons. That this was so prominently announced was to sow fear in parents for speaking out.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger

The FBI comes in when its organized... like I don't know, Moms for Liberty?

Welcome to Facts. They don't care about your stupid petty little feelings.

The victim mentality is strong with you.

#51 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-23 03:05 PM

" That this was so prominently announced was to sow fear in parents for speaking out."

Once again, Bellringer minimizes textbook terrorism by leaving out the most important part.

SPEAKING OUT is disagreeing. These terrorists were threatening board members with violence and death.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-23 04:23 PM

He's a ------- delusional old fart.

Don't miss next time.

#53 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-23 04:33 PM

" I do remember you idiots cheering on police beating and attacking even peaceful protesters. Like in Minnesota, where cops drove around in a van after the protests and shot random people walking with rubber bullets for fun.

#50 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-01-23 03:04 PM | FLAG: "

Don't broad brush me. I never condone police violence against peaceful protests.

A comparatively low level of prosecutions is why. Also, Kamala Harris stumped for a bail fund for rioters who got arrested and you cheered that on.

Protestor Mark Houck got into a minor altercation with a man who was verbally abusing his son. The man got pushed to the ground and went to local police to file an assault charge and the police decided not to. So the FBI conducted a pre-dawn guns drawn raid at his house and arrested him and charged him with violating the FACE act and the DOJ sought a 10 year prison sentence even though he wasn't blocking the entrance of an abortion facility. He was acquitted but the process is the punishment and you cheered it on. Danforth probably did too.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 05:19 PM

" The FBI comes in when it's organized... like I don't know, Moms for Liberty?"

1, pretty sure Moms for Liberty organized partially in response to this.

Are you going to make the case that Moms for Liberty is more of a terrorist organization than MS-13?

I'd love to see you try to make that argument.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 05:22 PM

I love a good false equivalency in the afternoon.

#56 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 05:22 PM

Moms for Liberty and MS13 have the same objectives.

BullBringer agrees with MFL, mob violence is the best way to fight progress at public schools. He would have been there with them, fighting school integration in the 1960s.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-23 05:31 PM

Moms for liberty is a hate group. Just sayin

#58 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-23 05:45 PM

" I love a good false equivalency in the afternoon.

#56 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-23 05:22 PM | FLAG: "

It smells like ... victory.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 05:45 PM

What you're smelling is coming from your pants.

Time to change your Trump brand diapers.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-23 05:47 PM

I do enjoy watching lefties expressing sympathy for MS-13.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 06:00 PM

I do enjoy watching lefties expressing sympathy for MS-13.

#61 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

Did you take a course to become such a jackass?

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-23 06:06 PM

Did you take a course to become such a jackass?

Posted by Zed at 2025-01-23 06:06 PM | Reply

I think that he was born with it.

#63 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-23 06:07 PM

No. I come by it naturally, Zed.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 06:07 PM

I do enjoy watching lefties expressing sympathy for MS-13.

Who, outside your head, did that?

Idiot.

#65 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 06:41 PM

" Who, outside your head, did that?

Idiot.

#65 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-23 06:41 PM | FLAG: "

Sycophant implied that Moms for Liberty is deserving of being designated a terrorist group and argued that MS-13 doesn't deserve being labeled as such.

#66 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-23 06:44 PM

He's trolling.

Everything he posts is in order to troll.

Usually he's more subtle about it.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-23 06:45 PM

Moms for Liberty is deserving of being designated a terrorist group

They are a terrorist group.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-23 06:46 PM

" I do enjoy watching lefties expressing sympathy for MS-13."

There.

Right there.

That's a STRAWMAN. No one, on any side of the aisle, is expressing sympathy for MS-13.

You created that claim out of straw.

Totally different from someone accurately describing what you do, like minimizing textbook domestic terrorism. Nobody is shoveling straw when they make that claim.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-23 07:57 PM

GFY

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-23 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag

bUt hEs A dOcTor!!! yOu ShOuLd LiStEn To hIm... aNd rOlLiNg sToNe iS The tRutH!!! tRuMp iS gOiNg tO jAiL.....

------- moron..

#70 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-23 09:21 PM

Say it, dummy... Say it.... You were wrong about the legal team "Rolling Stone" assembled against Trump...

And then, go blow a trucker when you get board at the salty frat party...

#71 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-23 09:27 PM

He already admitted he made a mistake you troglodyte. Now continue your trucker fantasy, it's amusing to watch whatever credibility you thought you possessed vanish.

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 09:30 PM

He already admitted he made a mistake you troglodyte.

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

No he didn't... when? STFU loser.

#73 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-23 09:44 PM

Now continue your trucker fantasy, it's amusing to watch whatever credibility you thought you possessed vanish.

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-23 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only fantasy was created by the fake doctor. He's the one who posed the frat party misdurins'... He's the one who said Trump was going to prison and backed it up with a "Rolling Stone" article.. It's hilarious to watch you clowns peddle this stupid ----. Cary on... Nat Geo loves you...

#74 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-23 09:50 PM

And a parody account as a news article .... LMMFAO...

#75 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-01-23 09:51 PM

"No one, on any side of the aisle, is expressing sympathy for MS-13."

Sycophant did. And he portrayed Moms for Liberty as worse.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what he typed. If he clarifies I will acknowledge it, retract and move on.

#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-24 04:40 AM

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