Friday, January 31, 2025

Why do Democrats defend criminal illegals?

Wisteguens Jean Quely Charles is a member of a violent Haitian street gang with 17 convictions to his name, including multiple drug, weapons, and assault and battery crimes. Ariel Rene Romice-Patino is a Mexican national who was hit with a 62-month prison sentence for sexual exploitation of a child. Cristofer Alexander Ramirez-Oliva is a Honduran convicted for third-degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor.

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These three dangerous individuals were in the country illegally and finally apprehended by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as part of President Trump's targeted raids on violent illegal immigrants. Yet, Democrats are decrying the raids, acting like these criminals are the victims. Why?

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Even when Trump does something right, you people still arent on board, even if it's indefensible.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-31 12:45 PM

Oh f*&^ dips&^%. If you have to lie, you've already lost.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-31 12:55 PM

Lie? About what? I havent lied.

You making things up again?

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-31 01:16 PM

Why does MAGA defend a criminal president?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-31 01:23 PM

It is strange.

I recall when I came to America "Liberals" cared about victims rights.

Then something happened, I am not sure what. But now they care more about what is "said" than what actually occurs.

idk, to make the point worse, the DNC chair election "debate", everyone of them felt Kamala lost because of racism and misogyny.

Incredible. Its like the DNC gets their talking point from TruthLies, and LyinYav, with a sprinkle of CorkyDaBigot

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-31 01:23 PM

Kamala lost because of racism and misogyny.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut

That 1.3% difference.

Yes, that was racism and misogyny.

MAGA is racist and misognistic.

And the new president is a lifelong criminal.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-31 01:27 PM

These three dangerous individuals were in the country illegally and finally apprehended by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as part of President Trump's targeted raids on violent illegal immigrants. Yet, Democrats are decrying the raids, acting like these criminals are the victims. Why?

3

of what 5000?

Why are the deportations being sold as getting rid of the worst of the worst when they are mostly just undocumented who didn't commit any crimes?

BTW did you know that Biden deported criminal undocumented immigrants at a rate higher than ------- has done?

Were you also aware that since ------- is deporting people without due process, which is contrary to the constitution you revere, those undocumented in America who were awaiting hearings have gone underground and many are no longer being tracked by our immigration officials? You know, the opposite of -------'s intentions?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:29 PM

Why does MAGA defend a criminal president?

No one except liberals consider Trump a Criminal. Everyne else in the U.S. knows any convictions of Trump were politically motivated and only designed to try and stop him from becoming President.

Those are facts.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-31 01:29 PM

Lie? About what? I havent lied.

You making things up again?

#3 | Posted by boaz

How about the lie that you love the constitution?

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be ...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...

You realize that many immigrants are being deported without due process, right?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:31 PM

Those are facts.

#8 | Posted by boaz

No, just you being stupid.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-31 01:31 PM

No one except liberals consider Trump a Criminal. Everyne else in the U.S. knows any convictions of Trump were politically motivated and only designed to try and stop him from becoming President.

Those are facts.

#8 | Posted by boaz

The State of NY considers ------- a convicted felon.

How come you don't?

Is it only liberals who respect the rule of law?

Oh and you voted for an adjudicated rapist (as is defined colloquially)

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:32 PM

#8 | Posted by boaz a
Donald is a life-long criminal.

Those are the facts.

Your need to see the man an something he has never been is pretty silly.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-31 01:33 PM

Many of the people being deported committed 34 fewer crimes than the POTUS.

Just saying.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:33 PM

Why is ------- intentionally blurring the lines of who is being deported?

He has claimed repeatedly he is concentrating on the worst criminals.

Why is he deporting immigrants who are not criminals?

Could it be he wants to obfuscate?

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:35 PM

Everyne else in the U.S. knows any convictions of Trump were politically motivated and only designed to try and stop him from becoming President.

Those are facts.

#8 | Posted by boaz

10,000 people have been convicted of the exact same thing that ------- did.

If you or I had done it would WE be exempt from prosecution?

Oh and yes, ------- is a rapist (as is considered colloquially)

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 01:37 PM

Hilarious... why do Republicans defend criminal traitor Presidents?

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-31 01:42 PM

Boaz voted for a criminal President.

End of story.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 01:52 PM

Boaz loves criminals.

When they're white.

He could teach Uncle Ruckus a thing or two about hating the black man and loving his white masters.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 01:54 PM

Wow, the trolls are out in force today, eh?

#19 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-31 02:06 PM

Posted by boaz

LOl!

As usual, funny, stupid, and pointless, all at the same time.

#20 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-01-31 02:20 PM

Why do MAGAT --------- defend actual criminals like Fat Donnie Rapist and his master, fElon Musk?

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-31 02:25 PM

Boaz's life motto: "if it's white, it's alright."

Must be hard living life as a white man, trapped in the body of a black man.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 02:51 PM

" Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be ...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...

You realize that many immigrants are being deported without due process, right?

#9 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-01-31 01:31 PM | FLAG: "

If they were being prosecuted for a crime - yes. Doesn't apply to deportations.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-31 02:51 PM

"The fifth amendment protects criminals, like me!"
-Donald Trump

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 02:54 PM

Must be hard living life as a white man, trapped in the body of a black man.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack

So you are calling me an Oreo?

Clownshack, I take offense to that. Why you would do that is a mystery to me. I've never called you a ---, because I wouldn't stoop that low. But I guess you don't have a low point, much like legallyyourdead or JPW or AU.

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2025-01-31 02:56 PM

If they were being prosecuted for a crime - yes. Doesn't apply to deportations.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger

Hey, stupid dumbass, your perception that ------- is concentrating on the convicted criminals is simply wrong. Most of those being deported have not been convicted of anything

And what is happening is if you can't prove you have been in the US for more than 2 years you are handcuffed and taken to a flight out of the country. No judge, no hearing, just boom gone.

So, yeah, you're an ignorant ------- ass.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 02:57 PM

Example

200 Columbians were deported.

0 of them were criminals

You're swallowing lies --------

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 03:04 PM

So you are calling me an Oreo?

Hah! I hadn't even thought of that. I was talking about your state of mind.

Also. Biracial or mixed race is the preferred term.

I take offense to that.

Because you're trying your hardest to do so.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 03:11 PM

#25

We're calling you an ignorant clown, --------.

Go ---- yourself.

#29 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-31 03:13 PM

#26. I didn't bring up criminals. I was pointing out that the government doesn't first need to go to court and get an injunction from a judge in order to deport.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-31 03:31 PM

Christ, you're stupid.

Fifth Amendment
No person shall be ...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...

Let's stipulate that undocumented immigrants are "persons". I know that will be difficult for you.

Any one being detained and/or deported is being deprived of liberty.

You may not agree but that is a simple fact.

If you cannot prove you have been in the US for more than 2 years you do not receive ANY due process. You are detained and deported.

And, oh yeah, ------- has shut down most of the legal means of entry too.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 03:37 PM

#26. I didn't bring up criminals. I was pointing out that the government doesn't first need to go to court and get an injunction from a judge in order to deport.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger

Again, every single person, every single undocumented immigrant, every single person who ICE interacts with is ENTITLED to due process.

At an absolute minimum that due process should involve a hearing with some qualified adjudicator to determine the facts of that person.

Due process of law is necessary to a. establish who the person is. b. their immigration status and c. how the existing laws apply to that status.

What ------- is doing is lawless and against the constitution.

Undocumented people include asylum seekers, refugees and those with temporary protected status.

Those people's presence in our country is LEGAL. They have a legal status.

------- is ignoring that legal status and deporting people.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 03:43 PM

The problem, as always, is the gulf between what information Boaz reads and what he understands.

Forget the conclusions drawn. And it's not a left or right issue. There are some foolish liberal posters here. Thing is, they don't lead daily with low-hanging fruit, and keep at it incessantly on issues that don't affect most Americans or even themselves.

#33 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-01-31 06:25 PM

You can't participate in an electing a criminal to be the president of United States and then complain about criminals.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-31 06:44 PM

Again, only if they are being prosecuted. Deportation is not prosecution.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-31 07:39 PM

You're a ------- ------.

#36 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-31 08:10 PM

Again, only if they are being prosecuted. Deportation is not prosecution.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

You are soooooo ------- stupid.

sooooooooooooooooo ------- stupid

SOOOO GOD DAMNED STUPID

This is such an obvious ------- lie it is not even funny.

Just play our YOUR position. That an undocumented immigrant does not have a right to due process.

Then how is an individual identified? How is an individual classified as undocumented? How is an undocumented Indvidual's immigration status established?

YOUR position is that ICE can look at someone, arrest them, put them on a plane to Timbuktu

THAT is exactly what you are saying

That is a lie. It is deceitful.

You ever wonder why I despise you so much?

Because of this. You have been informed. Yet you choose to lie.

You're a despicable piece of filth.

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 08:18 PM

Oh wait, it is NOT arresting them, as that is a process action. Kidnapping I guess would be the proper term.

Jeff you are disgusting.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 08:19 PM

constitution.congress.gov

n 1903, the Court in the Japanese Immigrant Case reviewed the legality of deporting an alien who had lawfully entered the United States, clarifying that an alien who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population could not be deported without an opportunity to be heard upon the questions involving his right to be and remain in the United States.1 In the decades that followed, the Supreme Court maintained the notion that once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders.2

Eventually, the Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.5 Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress's indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.6

You've been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 08:21 PM

Poof jeff disappears

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 08:21 PM

Facts are kryptonite to magat scum like jeff

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 08:21 PM

Twoothy,

Scroll down to Table 1 in the link and look at the numbers. I will consider ceding your argument if you can show that all of those deportees received due process in court.

You can't because deep down you know you are FOS on this and your take is driven by TDS.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-31 08:53 PM

Here is the link

www.migrationpolicy.org

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-31 08:54 PM

@#35 ... Deportation is not prosecution. ...

In a way, it might be considered as such.

But that aside.

Returner-in-Chief': Biden era deportations surpass Trump's first term totals
www.aa.com.tr

... President Donald Trump's first-term deportation numbers fell short compared to Barack Obama and Joe Biden's administrations, despite his reputation for emphasizing immigration enforcement.

US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) statistics show Biden oversaw 1.3 million more deportations during his first two years in office than Trump achieved during his entire first term. Obama also deported 30,000 more than Trump during his first four years. ...


#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-31 09:04 PM

You're a ------- idiot flailing around trying to find some logic in your lies

Face it jeff, you're scum.

You are not man enough to admit you are wrong.

Just plain scum

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 09:17 PM

Do you even read what you post?

Oh, yeah, NO.

From your link

Carefully calibrated revisions to Department of Homeland Security (DHS) immigration enforcement priorities and practices achieved two goals: Increasing penalties against unauthorized border crossers by putting far larger shares into formal removal proceedings rather than voluntarily returning them across the border, as had been longstanding practice; and making noncitizens with criminal records the top enforcement target

It literally says the opposite of what you contend.

Here I know that is long, let me cut a bit:

"putting far larger shares into formal removal proceedings rather than voluntarily returning them across the border"

You see that formal proceedings language?

Christ you're an idiot.

Even this won't get you to stop

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 09:20 PM

Do you even understand WHY Obama was focusing on removing newly arrived undocumented immigrants?

Because, once they have established themselves in America they gain additional rights and protections.

BTW this is basic ---- and shows that you are a lying, deceitful, ignorant hateful PoS>

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-31 09:24 PM

Twoothy is incapable of having a discussion without going into an absolute blood rage. It's like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum.
*****
To the best of my r3collection, Remain in Mexico, which was and is a forced deportation, never faced any serious legal challenges from the left. And if any legal challenges were initiated (again, I don't recall any) they lost in court. Also, notice, Democrats have been relatively quiet about Trump's current deportations.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-01 08:27 AM

Thee is no such thing as "illegals".

There is no such thing as an illegal human.

Just as there is no such thing as a "pro-life anti abortionist. They are pro "forced birthers". Not pro life.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-01 01:40 PM

#49. "Illegal alien" is a term codified into our legal code.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-02-01 11:47 PM

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