Saturday, March 15, 2025

Trump invokes rarely-used Alien Enemies Act

President Donald Trump on Saturday invoked the rarely-used Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to target a Venezuelan gang he accused of "unlawfully infiltrating" the United States hours after a federal judge temporarily limited its use. The wartime law enables the president to quickly detain and deport migrants from a "hostile" nation, either during times of "declared war" or when a foreign government perpetuates an "invasion" or "predatory incursion" into the United States. Only Congress has the Constitutional power to declare war. Trump's proclamation invoking the law accuses Venezuelan gang Tren De Aragua of "infiltrating" Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's regime, perpetuating "irregular warfare" within the United States and using drug trafficking as a weapon against American citizens.

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"Over the years, Venezuelan national and local authorities have ceded ever-greater control over their territories to transnational criminal organizations, including TdA [Tren De Aragua]. The result is a hybrid criminal state that is perpetrating an invasion of and predatory incursion into the United States, and which poses a substantial danger to the United States," the proclamation reads.

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-15 09:46 PM

Gracie is STUPID Incarnate.

That Sow is one Toxic Bitych.

She's Too Dumb.

Like,..Totally.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-15 10:09 PM

@#2 ... Gracie is STUPID Incarnate.

That Sow is one Toxic Bitych.

She's Too Dumb. ...

I disagree. Strongly.

I've had good discussions with the gracieamazed alias.

While I don't always (OK, rarely) agree with what that alias posts, I remain to be convinced that the ascription your current alias applies is correct.


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-15 10:34 PM

"Trump Invokes Alien Enemies Act as Tool for Deportation - Federal Court Issues Temporary Restraining Order Against it [Updated]" reason.com

That didn't last long. Not likely to survive. Idiots.

#4 | Posted by et_al at 2025-03-15 10:56 PM

"That didn't last long."

Does the judiciary have any power to discipline folks who are clearly just trying to gum up the works at every turn?

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-15 10:58 PM

Yes but only for what they do in court. Not for just being idiots.

#6 | Posted by et_al at 2025-03-15 11:03 PM

"Yes but only for what they do in court. Not for just being idiots."

How about being idiots in court?

Aren't these the same bozos who lost 60 of 61 cases to Marc Elias?

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-15 11:04 PM

There is a fine line between sanctional court conduct and pushing the outer limits of law and precedent. A president pushing the outer limits will get the benefit of the doubt.

#8 | Posted by et_al at 2025-03-15 11:21 PM

sanctionable

#9 | Posted by et_al at 2025-03-15 11:22 PM

@#6 ... Yes but only for what they do in court. ...

So, outside of court, the Judiciary can do nothing?

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-15 11:31 PM

Jesus f****g crist, get with the jist of the exchange. Court's have enjoined his stupid but the question was about discipline (sanctions). Idiot.

#11 | Posted by et_al at 2025-03-15 11:38 PM

@#11 ... get with the jist of the exchange. ...

I presume that was about my @10 comment.

... Court's have enjoined his stupid but the question was about discipline (sanctions) ...

But I'll ask again, if Pres Trump decides that he will not follow the Court decision, what can the Court do to make him follow that decision?

Any enforcement of the decision would likely fall onto the DoJ, which Pres trump (did you listen to his speech?) seems to have in his pocket.


So, yeah, my question may be outside of the gist of the exchange, but I think it is relevant.

So, what say ye?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-15 11:58 PM

@#11 ... get with the jist of the exchange. ...

I presume that was about my @10 comment.

... Court's have enjoined his stupid but the question was about discipline (sanctions) ...

But I'll ask again, if Pres Trump decides that he will not follow the Court decision, what can the Court do to make him follow that decision?

Any enforcement of the decision would likely fall onto the DoJ, which Pres trump (did you listen to his speech?) seems to have in his pocket.


So, yeah, my question may be outside of the gist of the exchange, but I think it is relevant.

So, what say ye?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-16 12:02 AM

@#11 ... get with the jist of the exchange. ...

I presume that was about my @10 comment.

... Court's have enjoined his stupid but the question was about discipline (sanctions) ...

But I'll ask again, if Pres Trump decides that he will not follow the Court decision, what can the Court do to make him follow that decision?

Any enforcement of the decision would likely fall onto the DoJ, which Pres trump (did you listen to his speech?) seems to have in his pocket.


So, yeah, my question may be outside of the gist of the exchange, but I think it is relevant.

So, what say ye?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-16 12:03 AM

But I'll ask again, if Pres Trump decides that he will not follow the Court decision, what can the Court do to make him follow that decision?

Given the lengthy list of flagrantly illegal and/or unconstitutional actions from this administration, I'd like to see an answer to this question.

The courts can stamp their feet and rule rule rule ... but if Trump's hand picked people ignore it because they'll get pardoned or it's immune from any action as being under the power of the executive, what will happen?

More feet stamping and "rulings"?

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-16 04:14 AM

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