Friday, May 23, 2025

Who was really running the show while Biden was president?

Republicans want to investigate former President Joe Biden's use of the autopen. Did he personally grant broad (and possibly unconstitutional) pardons for family members, members of the January 6 Committee and Anthony Fauci, or did someone else make the decision? Was he responsible for all the executive orders issued under his name, or did White House personnel make those decisions? If he did not personally sign various documents, are they valid?

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Who was really running the show while Biden was president?

Pretty sure we concluded that it was BellRinger when he asked this last time.

You guys sure like to spend a lot of time talking about Biden. Wonder what you'll fixate on when he kicks the bucket. Definitely won't be Trump breaking the law and spitting on the Constitution.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-23 05:41 PM

It wasn't the fascist traitors of Project 2025, that's for sure

#2 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-05-23 05:43 PM

Autopens have been used for a number of years without question. You MAGA Trumpers are grasping for straws at this point.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-23 05:52 PM

Is Biden dead yet?

#4 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-23 06:16 PM

Well Censored, now that the cat has been let out of the bag by Democrats that no one was home upstairs with him and other people were signing off using his signature without his authority. That's a felony and jail time is warranted. The people deserve to know the truth.

As for you Laura, sorry the T's are about to lose their Medicaid funding on peepee chopping surgery. Hope everyone has a nice Memorial Day weekend.

#5 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-05-23 06:48 PM

Hilarious!

With Dear Orange Leader destroying everything from the economy to healthcare to the Western Alliance and Ukraine, Trump's Humpers want talk about Biden! What a great distraction, erm, I mean idea.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-23 08:19 PM

Well Censored, now that the cat has been let out of the bag by Democrats that no one was home upstairs with him and other people were signing off using his signature without his authority. That's a felony and jail time is warranted. The people deserve to know the truth.
#5 | Posted by Bluewaffles

That's a lot of (groundless) assumptions your making, but you already know that.

We'll get on those false accusations right after we take care of the folks who were legit signing off on "Alzheimer's" Ron Reagan's papers during his second term. You remember Ronnie, right? The guy who got in front of Congress and said he didn't recall telling Ollie North to commit 16 felonies and Congress believed him. "124 times in his eight hours of testimony." seattletimes.com

I'm sure you got your panties in a bunch over that as well. Because the senility of our presidents is such a big deal to you.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-23 08:22 PM

They say Eisenhower was largely diminished due to a stroke in his last eighteen months. Then in his Farewell Address, he gave a warning totally unheeded over the last 60 years: the military-industrial complex speech. Not bad for the conservative-imagined "brain dead."

avalon.law.yale.edu

#8 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-05-23 10:44 PM

Censored I have no doubt that Ronnie couldn't remember telling Ollie to go commit 16 felonies. I mean the guy did have early Alzheimer's during the later part of his second term in office for Christs sake.

That still doesn't excuse what was going on with full blown whatever the ---- Biden has lol.

#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-05-23 11:48 PM


With Dear Orange Leader destroying everything from the economy to healthcare to the Western Alliance and Ukraine, Trump's Humpers want talk about Biden! What a great distraction, erm, I mean idea.

#6 | POSTED BY CORKY

Classic Whataboutism.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-24 12:10 AM

Autopens have been used for a number of years without question. You MAGA Trumpers are grasping for straws at this point.

What is the legal process? Anyone?

How does the use of autopen get authorized?

All we know is there aren't any laws governing a president's use of an autopen. A DOJ memo said the president doesn't have to physically sign a bill for it to become law.

THATS IT

Is that legal according to SCOTUS? idk, but it wouldn't apply to pardons right?

The country is a mess, and Biden kicked hornets nest.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-24 12:13 AM

but it wouldn't apply to pardons right?

So it's still all about Hunter Biden. LOL. Petty, petty people.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-24 12:35 AM

" it wouldn't apply to pardons right?"

Gosh darn it ... that was the ONE pardon done in longhand!

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-24 12:39 AM

They are still trying to nail Obama. If Biden wasn't Obama's VP nobody would give a damn. The rotten bastards

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-24 12:43 AM

They are still trying to nail Obama.

They're just blowing a smokescreen for Lewzer's pathetic, frankly embarrassing, "performance".

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-24 12:51 AM

Censored I have no doubt that Ronnie couldn't remember telling Ollie to go commit 16 felonies. I mean the guy did have early Alzheimer's during the later part of his second term in office for Christs sake. That still doesn't excuse what was going on with full blown whatever the [fudge] Biden has lol.
#9 | Posted by Bluewaffles

OK, but does your false accusation against Biden excuse "whatever the [fudge] [Trump] has lol?"

Which is the entire purpose of your post, right? Ignore the ravings of our current president, which is very much a concern, by bringing up baseless garbage about our former president?

Drudge-Report-Dementia-Don

#16 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-24 06:35 AM

Whomever it was we need em back.

The new guy has gone insane and is destroying the country like Wreck-It Ralph.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-24 08:05 AM

Ronald Reagan claimed that the Russian language had no word for "freedom." (The word is "svoboda"; it's quite well attested in Russian literature.) Ronald Reagan said that intercontinental ballistic missiles (not that there are any non-ballistic missiles"a corruption of language that isn't his fault) could be recalled once launched. Ronald Reagan said that he sought a "Star Wars" defense only in order to share the technology with the tyrants of the U.S.S.R. Ronald Reagan professed to be annoyed when people called it "Star Wars," even though he had ended his speech on the subject with the lame quip, "May the force be with you." Ronald Reagan used to alarm his Soviet counterparts by saying that surely they'd both unite against an invasion from Mars. Ronald Reagan used to alarm other constituencies by speaking freely about the "End Times" foreshadowed in the Bible. In the Oval Office, Ronald Reagan told Yitzhak Shamir and Simon Wiesenthal, on two separate occasions, that he himself had assisted personally at the liberation of the Nazi death camps.

There was more to Ronald Reagan than that. Reagan announced that apartheid South Africa had "stood beside us in every war we've ever fought," when the South African leadership had been on the other side in the most recent world war. Reagan allowed Alexander Haig to greenlight the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, fired him when that went too far and led to mayhem in Beirut, then ran away from Lebanon altogether when the Marine barracks were bombed, and then unbelievably accused Tip O'Neill and the Democrats of "scuttling." Reagan sold heavy weapons to the Iranian mullahs and lied about it, saying that all the weapons he hadn't sold them (and hadn't traded for hostages in any case) would, all the same, have fit on a small truck. Reagan then diverted the profits of this criminal trade to an illegal war in Nicaragua and lied unceasingly about that, too. Reagan then modestly let his underlings maintain that he was too dense to understand the connection between the two impeachable crimes. He then switched without any apparent strain to a policy of backing Saddam Hussein against Iran. (If Margaret Thatcher's intelligence services had not bugged Oliver North in London and become infuriated because all European nations were boycotting Iran at Reagan's request, we might still not know about this.)

slate.com

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-24 08:15 AM

#18: And the 1983 invasion to stop the "Red Menace" in Grenada (against the wishes of NATO ally Margaret "Take a Hatchet to the Unions" Thatcher: images.greelane.com

#19 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-24 08:25 AM

This was Woodrow Wilson 2.0 and apparently it looks like almost the entirety of those on the left think it was really cool.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-24 09:27 AM

This was Woodrow Wilson 2.0 and apparently it looks like almost the entirety of those on the left think it was really cool.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-24 09:27 AM | Reply

Go away. We're full up on your balderdash Jeff. You lack ANY proof of what you're espousing.

#21 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-24 09:42 AM


So it's still all about Hunter Biden. LOL. Petty, petty people.
#12 | POSTED BY REDIAL

No, its about the law, or lawlessness. Lumpers talk continually about the "eroding of the law under Trump", but this is actually worse, who was running the autopen for everything Biden "autopened"? OR any President for that matter? If there is no chain of custody on how the autopen signing is documented anyone can sign a presidential order/pardon/law.

But now conveniently Lumpers don't care because of things might not go their way?

What if it was Hunter Biden that autopenned his pardon, does that matter to you Canadians?


Gosh darn it ... that was the ONE pardon done in longhand!
#13 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Was it? If so then clearly I am not taking about Hunter Just the pardons in general. I would even submit laws shouldn't be allowed to be autopenned without some chain of custody.

Or to be more blunt the autopen without chain of custody will allow the ability to create puppet Presidents. Run by someone other than what the people vote for.
Its all fun and games until your side is the victim of some behind the scenes authoritarian.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-24 10:31 AM

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