Kirk's Killing was a Tragedy, but we Must Not Rewrite his Life

Monday, September 15, 2025

Moira Donegan:In the wake of horror, honest accountings of his life have not only become rare - they have also become dangerous

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 04:32 PM | 34 COMMENTS | permalink

The right is calling Charlie Kirk a martyr for free speech as they demand a violent crackdown on progressive dissent. More from senior correspondent @ericlevitz.bsky.social:

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-- Vox (@vox.com) Sep 12, 2025 at 9:35 AM

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Not just a hater and a grifter, but a rich hater and grifter.
Praise Jeebus.
Gawd bless Amerika.
Amen.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-15 06:02 AM

"postmortem hagiographies"

MAGA lies about their heroes; to make themselves feel good and to justify negative actions to satisfy their Ids.

Charlie Kirk, in life, was a nasty man.

Death has not improved him.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-15 08:17 AM

People are coming to the conclusion, promoted by Kirk and MAGA, that Jesus was not a nice man.

A lie, of course. But Trump/MAGA needs the Mean Jesus. The nice one can't help them get money and power and, frankly, children to have sex with.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-15 08:26 AM

"The same values that make us horrified at his violent death are the ones that should embolden our commitment to defeating the politics he worked for in life."

well said. finally....some sanity.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-15 09:20 AM

The ONLY ones who will try to rewrite his life are rightwing racist/homophobic scum!

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-15 04:38 PM

MAGA kills MAGA and it's a tragedy? Eh.

But they definitely will blame the Left like always.

If this dude had been wearing Trump and Nick Fuentes gear, said I support Trump, America First, and Nick Fuentes, and I'm a neo-Nazi who hates liberals, the right would STILL blame the Left.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-15 04:52 PM

I don't get into the whole "democrats are the party of hate and violence" crap.

it's silly. I never do it.

-If this dude had been wearing Trump and Nick Fuentes gear...

That's what you're doing. You just called him a MAGA. A guy living with another man who transitioning?

a MAGA?

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-15 04:55 PM

Quoting Kirk is now Hate Speech:

drudge.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-15 05:01 PM

The kid was Confused. His family had no Clue.

Kirk pissed him off, Somehow.

His online buddies knew about the attack, even the date and target a month ago.

Its not about Ideology. It's more basic I think.

Identity and loss of Respect. This was Personal as much or More than Political in my Opinion.

Kid just Hated that ------.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-15 05:06 PM

"#6 | Posted by Sycophant"

You clearly have not been keeping up with the news regarding the alleged shooter.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-15 08:09 PM

Kirk's Killing was a Tragedy, but we Must Not Rewrite his Life

The man did nothing but spread hate.

He's being canonized.

This is who today's republican is.

They're full of hate and stupidity and proud of it.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-15 08:13 PM

#10
Actually, you appear to know virtually nothing about the subject.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-16 04:52 AM

A few fun quotes to put on Chas's tombstone:

-"We must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty... We need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment"

- "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage."

-"Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years"

-"Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot."

-"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"

#13 | Posted by catdog at 2025-09-16 09:12 AM

Can't criticize Israel, can't criticize Charlie Kirk?

WTF.

I thought Republicans believed in freedom of Conscience and limited Government.

Biggest Bunch of BS EVER.

Republicans love Big Brother.

If Trump Tells them To.

Sad....BIGLY.

#14 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-16 09:49 AM

"#6 | Posted by Sycophant"
You clearly have not been keeping up with the news regarding the alleged shooter.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Can you tell us what that "news" is?

Is that "news" in the room with us now?

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-16 01:14 PM

It wasn't tragic at all. He was an evil POS.

#16 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-16 03:47 PM

Why is Charlie Kirk's death a tragedy?

Is it because it's allowing the Trump administration to spin his death into an attack on democrats and liberals?

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 03:50 PM

Because loudmouth propagandists stick together.

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-16 04:02 PM

4 people died on 09/10.

3 kids and a grown man who spent his life advocating for gun violence.

The media has focused all its attention on canonizing the hate monger.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 04:12 PM

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, Boy, I hope he's qualified"

You understand the context, right? Hiring someone for a critical skill based not on their performance, but on their skin color.

It's a valid concern when you get into DEI. Let me direct your attention to Kara Hultgreen.

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 01:08 AM

If this had been a pro-Pal screaming, "from the river to the sea" who was shot by a jewish activist, the left would be losing it's mind. Despite the fact that the phrase itself is a call for genocide. And for the past couple of yours there have been hundreds of thousands of Usan's calling for this genocide.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 01:09 AM

Let me direct your attention to Kara Hultgreen

Are you pretending there aren't hundreds of unqualified White men in the military?

Or are you saying all none White men are unqualified?

What does Kara Hultgreen represent?

One female is one too many?

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 01:21 AM

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, Boy, I hope he's qualified"
You understand the context, right? Hiring someone for a critical skill based not on their performance, but on their skin color.
It's a valid concern when you get into DEI. Let me direct your attention to Kara Hultgreen.

#20 | Posted by madbomber

To be a pilot, he has to pass all the required flying tests. Do you think somehow they skip the tests because he is black?

That seems to be what Kirk thinks. Or at least what he said to get attention from idiots who don't know how the world actually works.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-17 01:21 AM

If this had been a pro-Pal screaming,

If you had a dick you'd be a man, but such hypotheticals are stupid and pointless

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 01:22 AM

the past couple of yours there have been hundreds of thousands of Usan's calling for this genocide.
#21 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

The last couple years IDF has been actively carrying out a genocide in Gaza.

But sure, chanting slogans is much worse.

I'm sure there's a white supremacist gathering you're late for.

Better get along.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 01:25 AM

Troy Neil's to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple."

bsky.app

Lol

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-17 01:02 PM

Troy Nehls

#27 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-17 01:02 PM

"Are you pretending there aren't hundreds of unqualified White men in the military?"

Fortunately for everyone, when a white dude fails to meet standards, he will be gone. No activists are going to stand up and claim that they have been discriminated against. As it should be. Get rid of them.

Do you disagree?

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

"What does Kara Hultgreen represent?"

Did you even bother to Google her?

#29 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

"The last couple years IDF has been actively carrying out a genocide in Gaza."

Like in the same way the US and UK committed genocide against the Germans during WWII?

Can you imagine if, in the years 1943-1947, hundreds of thousands of USans would have been demanding an end to the German genocide and an end to the occupation?

I can't. But...I bet you can.

#30 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 03:17 PM

"I'm sure there's a white supremacist gathering you're late for."

Even if that were the case, I'm sure the white supremacists would be just as much in favor as "from the river to the sea" as you are.

White supremacists are the natural allies of the pro-pals.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-17 03:18 PM

Like in the same way the NAZIS committed genocide against the Germans during WWII?

Yep. Just like that.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 05:51 PM

White supremacists are the natural allies of the pro-pals.
#31 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Oh. Absolutely.

White supremacists love Islamists.

You would know, considering you're a white supremacist and you love Hamas.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 05:53 PM

#32

The German National Socialists were carrying out massive bombing raids against German population centers?

At least the Germans had the decency not to build their military command centers in bunkers underneath hospitals.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-09-18 02:09 AM

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