Thursday, December 11, 2025

'Sleepwalking Us into a War'

"I'm afraid that Secretary [Pete] Hegseth and President Trump are sleepwalking us into a war with Venezuela, and that regime change and access to the critical mineral resources and oil and gas of Venezuela is the real purpose and real goal here," [Sen. Chris] Coons told MS NOW's Nicolle Wallace on "Deadline: White House," in comments highlighted by Mediaite.

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Durbin: "Any president before he engages in act of war has to have the authorization of the American people through Congress ... this president is preparing for an invasion of Venezuela. Simply said. And if the American people are in favor of that, I'd be surprised."[image or embed]

" Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) Dec 11, 2025 at 9:55 AM

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"Trump, in an interview released Tuesday, did not dismiss the possibility of sending American troops to Venezuela.

"I don't comment on that. I wouldn't say that one way or the other," the president told Politico's Dasha Burns when questioned if U.S. troops could end up on the ground in Venezuela in the future.

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"Colombian President Gustavo Petro said in an interview published late last month that oil was central to the Trump administration's pressure campaign in Venezuela instead of a battle against drugs.

"[Oil] is at the heart of the matter," Petro said in the interview with CNN."

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Oil is likely a lot cheaper when you steal it. Unless of course you count the billions you spent on bullying a smaller country into giving it away.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-10 03:10 PM

Related ...

US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
www.theguardian.com

... Move is major escalation of US pressure campaign against South American country's dictator, Nicols Maduro.

US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, in a major escalation of Donald Trump's four-month pressure campaign against the South American country's dictator, Nicols Maduro.

The US president confirmed the operation on Wednesday, telling reporters: "We've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela - a large tanker, very large, the largest one ever seized actually. And other things are happening so you will be seeing that later and you will be talking about that later with other people."

Two US officials told Reuters the operation was led by the US Coast Guard, but did not name the tanker or say specifically where the interception happened. A senior Trump administration official told Bloomberg that the US had conducted a "judicial enforcement action on a stateless vessel" that was last docked in Venezuela. ...


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-10 03:28 PM

Well, the US just seized an oil tanker off Venezuela: "US seizes oil tanker off coast of Venezuela, officials say" at www.reuters.com

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-10 03:28 PM

More info about the flyover ...

In defiant flyover, US F-18 fighter jets enter Venezuelan airspace for 40 minutes
www.stripes.com

... Two U.S. F-18 fighter jets flying in tandem entered Venezuelan airspace around noon Tuesday, circling over the Gulf of Venezuela in the latest show of force against the regime of Nicols Maduro.

The flyover -- carried out despite the Venezuelan regime's possession of a number of Russian-made anti-aircraft batteries -- took place less than 100 miles northeast of Maracaibo, Venezuela's second-largest city. Thousands of Venezuelans tracked the aircraft online through specialized tracking websites, watching as the jets traced a bow-tie-shaped pattern over the gulf.

The fighters remained inside Venezuelan airspace for at least 40 minutes at an altitude of roughly 25,000 feet before heading north and leaving the area.

The U.S. fighter jets flew between two key regions for Venezuela's energy sector, Zulia and Falcon states. Lake Maracaibo, whose 5,000 square miles make it of the largest fresh bodies of water on the continent, is the cradle of reserves of some 150 billion barrels of crude oil. ...




#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-10 03:30 PM

With Christmas only two weeks away, the sniveling draft-dodging silver-spooned good-for-nothing senile sexual predator sitting in a half-demolished White House is lurching America towards this:

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-10 03:45 PM

He seized a Venezuelan oil tanker ffs

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-10 03:55 PM

When Dummkopf Trumpf illegally bombed Iran in June this year, House Democrat Al Green (D-TX) introduced a bill to impeach the Republican warmonger.

"The House overwhelmingly torpedoed an effort by Rep. Al Green (D-TX) to impeach President Dummkopf Trumpf over the US strikes on Iran, underscoring how little appetite Democrats have to try and oust the president despite their frustration with the weekend attack.

The chamber voted 344-79 to table Green's resolution, which charges Trumpf with abuse of power. One hundred-twenty eight Democrats, including the caucus's top three leaders, voted with Republicans to table the measure, while 79 Democrats voted against the effort, pushing for the chamber to hold a vote on the resolution."

Source: The Hill.com.

Gut arbet, Congressional Democrats!

Why did these 128 Democrats think it was OK for the US to attack Iranian targets in June 2025 but it is not OK for the US to attack Venezuelan targets beginning in September?


#7 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-10 04:08 PM

@#7 ... Why did these 128 Democrats think it was OK for the US to attack Iranian targets in June 2025 but it is not OK for the US to attack Venezuelan targets beginning in September? ...

Good question.

Perhaps that is why Congressional Democrats have a lower approval rating among Democrat voters than Congressional Republicans have among Republican voters?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-10 04:14 PM

Release the Epstein Files

#9 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-12-10 06:24 PM

@#9 ... Release the Epstein Files ...

Yup, and with only the names of the victims redacted.


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-10 07:26 PM

Fox News is being the good fascist propaganda machine beginning to beat the war drums.

www.msn.com

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-10 08:18 PM

Oil is likely a lot cheaper when you steal it. Unless of course you count the billions you spent on bullying a smaller country into giving it away.

#1 | POSTED BY CORKY

That Venezuelan oil tanker could turn out to be the most expensive oil tanker we have ever stolen.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-11 11:27 AM

#12

And the largest! Trump is now having the new name painted on the ship; the USS Trump.

In gold lettering, of course!

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-11 11:39 AM

Just like in the US cities where Trump is pushing and pushing to get some violence to declare Martial Law he is hoping Venezuela strikes back and then he is able to use that as an excuse for actual war.

#14 | Posted by MBlue at 2025-12-11 12:03 PM

Durbin: "Any president before he engages in act of war has to have the authorization of the American people through Congress

Where was Durbin when Obama was authorizing drone strikes in the Middle East? More specifically the ones that bombed weddings an funerals.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-11 12:04 PM

He seized a Venezuelan oil tanker ffs
#6 | POSTED BY TRUTHNLIES

No he didn't....
Under the "law of the sea" " UNCLOS " any stateless vessel can be stopped and boarded by any nation. No permission required.
MarineTraffic showed it flying a Guyana flag, but that's just self-reported AIS data.
The actual government registry database, Equasis.org, and you'll see Guyana officially denies registering this ship.

No real flag = stateless vessel.
And stateless vessels have zero legal protections.

Naval War College lays out the full framework here:
digital-commons.usnwc.edu

Why did Bidens oil sanctions not work? Because he never went after stateless tankers, which were violating the sanctions.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-11 12:05 PM


More info about the flyover ...
In defiant flyover, US F-18 fighter jets enter Venezuelan airspace for 40 minutes
www.stripes.com

~ GasLighter

This was an escort of Machado's boat as I have stated you morons.

At the time of her crossing, the Navy dispatched two F-18 fighter jets into the Gulf of Venezuela, where they flew circles around her route for about 40 minutes"the closest incursion into Venezuelan airspace the military has made since tensions between the two nations escalated in September.
www.thedailybeast.com

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-11 12:10 PM

This thread really brings the emotional stupidity of the American people.

Everything has a logical, legal reasoning, but you don't take the time to understand or even learn the most basic point, just run around busy as a headless fly, and hands busy feet in a flurry.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-11 12:15 PM

Legal basis?

Show your work.

No legal protections isn't the same as legal.

No legal protections just means the Piracy won't be scrutinized by any other government.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-11 12:25 PM

Re 18

What a commie tard you've become.

If you really think Everything or Anything Trumpy or this administration does has a "logical, legal reasoning", then you obviously have no clue what logical and legal means.

But I wouldn't expect a commie spyboy to understand what is logical and legal in America.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-11 12:25 PM

1TrumpNut grew up a totalitarian, and it appears he's returned to the fold; this time the Fascist side rather than the Communist side of totalitarianism.

Or maybe he's just the World's Most Inept Troll?

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-11 12:32 PM

ONEIRONBOT is a clever scold, but logic isn't their strong suit...

#22 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-12-11 12:35 PM

Where was Durbin when Obama was authorizing drone strikes in the Middle East? More specifically the ones that bombed weddings an funerals.

#15 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Blah blah blah. Apples and oranges. That was an unintentional attack. These things happen in wars. Which is why we don't like wars you big dummy.

They should not have fired their weapons into the sky while US military craft were flying over them.

BTW- Obama used the 2001 AUMF that Congress passed. The AUMF authorized the President to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against those responsible for the attacks and those who harbored them.

We are not at war. No one fired upon those Navy vessels. These are intentional attacks on civilians with orders to kill them all so that there are no witnesses. (But like a dumb and dumber criminal they filmed themselves committing a crime on the high seas).

Who has attacked us? Where is the evidence? What congressional authority is Trumpy using to kill Venezuelan civilians?

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-11 12:38 PM

- Blah blah blah. Apples and oranges. That was an unintentional attack. These things happen in wars. Which is why we don't like wars you big dummy.

Explain to me when Congress declared war on Syria.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-11 01:02 PM

"Explain to me when Congress declared war on Syria."

He already did.
Obama used the 2001 AUMF.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-11 01:10 PM

All this to deport Venezuelans under the Alien Enemies Act.

The TDS (Trump Dick Suckers) afflicted will be here any moment to defend the tiny-fingered vulgarian.

#26 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-12-11 01:14 PM

"Explain to me when Congress declared war on Syria.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-11 01:02 PM | Reply"

Did you vote for Trump because you thought he was going to start a war?

#27 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-12-11 01:19 PM

USS Trump

That oil is being snuck into America where it is converted to Chinese fentanyl & taking over whole apartment complexes in Mountain West!

This is renegade foreign policy by President Trump, who once wisely critiqued regime-change interventionists. Sad! Do something, Congress!

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

#28 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-12-11 01:28 PM

He seized a Venezuelan oil tanker ffs
#6 | POSTED BY TRUTHNLIES
No he didn't....
Under the "law of the sea" " UNCLOS " any stateless vessel can be stopped and boarded by any nation. No permission required.
MarineTraffic showed it flying a Guyana flag, but that's just self-reported AIS data.
The actual government registry database, Equasis.org, and you'll see Guyana officially denies registering this ship.
No real flag = stateless vessel.
And stateless vessels have zero legal protections.
Naval War College lays out the full framework here:
digital-commons.usnwc.edu
Why did Bidens oil sanctions not work? Because he never went after stateless tankers, which were violating the sanctions.
#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-11 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag:| Newsworthy 1

Technically, the oil is Venezuelan, thus Venezuelan oil tanker.

But you are undoubtedly pointing to a real situation the Navy is groomed into existence for many exploitative corridors.

#29 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-11 01:46 PM

He already did.
Obama used the 2001 AUMF.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-11 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

All he explained was a work-around Obama used to bomb people at a wedding and a funeral. No one declared war on Syria as I pointed out in my previous post.

Do you agree with Durbin or do you agree with Obama?

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-11 01:53 PM

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