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Thursday, March 07, 2024

In a landmark decision, the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit ruled against Florida's controversial 'anti-woke' law, affirming that it infringes on companies' First Amendment rights.

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... The Florida House voted Friday to approve a bill restricting curricula for educator preparation programs and courses. The effort is similar to the 2022 policy in the Legislature that was meant to remove instruction on systemic racism, sexism, oppression and privilege from public schools.

Republican lawmakers positioned HB 1291 as an attempt to stop teachers from being indoctrinated with "identity politics and woke ideology," whereas Democrats said it was another attempt to erase history. ...

"There is only one way to teach about slavery in Florida, and that is that it was evil. But if we can't have an honest discussion and say that some slaves were paid for their work and were able to actually get a portion of payment that slave owners received for their labor, then we're afraid of teaching accurate history," Andrade said. "If you were not aware that some slaves received payment, not payment that was good, not payment that was valid, not payment that was moral. But if we can't even have that discussion in this room, what hope do we have to teach and actually agree on facts?" ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#1 ... But if we can't have an honest discussion and say that some slaves were paid for their work ...

So... forced labor is good ... if they laborers are paid?

How much were they paid?


As much as the children working in cobalt mines to benefit US Big Tech?


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" But if we can't have an honest discussion and say that some slaves were paid for their work ..."

Could they quit and go look for a real paying job where they weren't considered livestock?

#3 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-06 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Corporations are PEOPLE, my friend!

#4 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2024-03-07 10:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#1 ... But if we can't have an honest discussion and say that some slaves were paid for their work ...
So... forced labor is good ... if they laborers are paid?
How much were they paid?

As much as the children working in cobalt mines to benefit US Big Tech?

#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Do they want to teach about how ISIS once fed some people who were starving too?
Or how Jeffrey Dahmer helped a little old lady across the street once?

You know I heard Donald Trump went into a department store once and didn't rape someone but that might be a fairy tale.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-07 11:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Not so different from using prison labor now. Republicans want us to ignore this, but slavery still exists in America.

Captive Labor: Exploitation of Incarcerated Workers

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-03-07 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The opinion (from a hard-right panel no less) is incredibly scathing, stopping just short of saying DeSantis wipes his ass with the First Amendment. I'm sure all our resident gogo-boot and Constitution enthusiasts will be here to comment.

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-07 11:41 AM | Reply

As usual it was all for political show. The Trumpy Show. A show that failed and is now starting to backfire as reality sinks in.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-07 02:39 PM | Reply

The MAGAts would claim that the slaves got paid in free room and board as well as medical. In exchange for what? They got to work from dawn to dusk in the fields doing back-breaking work, being whipped and beaten if they fell behind, or just for Massa's enjoyment, or to prove a point to the other slaves. I'm sure the MAGAts don't want their children learning about how some slave owners raped their female slaves or how they had forced breeding, matching their strongest male and female slaves, then selling the children to other slaveholders. Gosh, it sounds idyllic. In exchange, some slaves learned blacksmithing, sounds fair.

#9 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2024-03-08 02:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I wish the linked article had just stuck to the facts instead of getting 8th editorializing. Having said that, this does seem like a clear-cut 1st Amendment case.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-03-08 02:22 AM | Reply

I wish the linked article had just stuck to the facts

The 11th Circuit opinion itself, from hard right judges, basically told DeSantis and his lawyers to go get their shine box. There isn't a polite way of describing how bad their arguments were.

#11 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-08 11:35 AM | Reply

Having said that, this does seem like a clear-cut 1st Amendment case.

#10 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Baby steps!

Now do book banning.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-08 11:39 AM | Reply

This was the correct ruling.

But it also doesnt mean that if a company wants to put bans on DEI, that they cant.

This just basically said, a company can do what it wants when it comes to this, so lets make sure when a company goes in the other direction, you liberals dont get a ------.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-08 02:29 PM | Reply

#13 No, what it really said is that DeSantis and the Florida Republican legislature wiped their collective asses with the First Amendment, and that their efforts to restrict corporate DEI programs are among the most flagrantly unconstitutional acts to be considered by any court in recent memory.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-08 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is this the same law JeffJ said was desperately needed to protect K-3 kids, then K-12 kids as well, then college kids as well?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-08 02:47 PM | Reply

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