" The only genocide being committed is by the side that's armed with rocks and sticks."

Oh, FFS. Hamas, and all its forerunners had goal #1: Israeli genocide. What's your counter offer?

WHATEVER your counter ... Theirs is Israeli genocide.

And if you counter this, or that, or something else?

Their counter is Israeli genocide ... as it's been for 76 years.

Here's my take:
Anyone who demands YOUR GENOCIDE requires you to reciprocate.

" The thought of children starving to death is the only thing that stimulates blood flow to your nether regions."

I blame their leaders, who chose guns over butter. Look at them: some of the poorest people in the world, with three multi billionaires at the top, leaders who've done nothing but build underground tunnels and bomb making capabilities.

Strange you don't blame them, but rather the folks they've been trying to genocide for 76 years.

I'm not saying there are heroes. I'm saying on the other side of the table is negotiating for your genocide, that leaves you no other options. At least that's what the hundreds of negotiations I've been involved in have taught me.

" This genocidal manoac"

Didn't mean to make you froth at the mouth at calling someone else a baby-killer.

Don't light a match around all that straw!

"You couldn't "make" me do anything"

Oh, gee, an internet tough guy who can't even spell "maniac".

"Well,,, do you???"

Or handle a comma.

"Find new material to justify starving children"

Translation: You have no answer for the counter-offer, either.

"Look at the good----------- liberal. Nothing to say"

On the contrary, I've had plenty to say, including offering you a seat at the table. I've even gone so far as to ask for your wisdom in negotiation.

I'll note to date, you have no counter-offer to the most recent Hamas demand. Still. After dozens of posts. If I didn't know better, I'd think you didn't know better.

So...after all this time, you've only got Ad Hominem?!?

(sigh) Back to the kids' table for you. Be sure your bib fits this time.

"f #12 doesn't boil directly down to: "I blame the slaves for slavery because it was their own people who sold them into it..." someone help me understand it"

Gladly.

Hamas is like the drunk husband, who blows rent every month on fireworks. Not industry, not education, not infrastructure...fireworks. Two generations later, they can't figure out why they're still broke.

Meanwhile, they've been repeatedly offered peace, if they'll merely give up Goal #1. But they won't. THEY HAVE ALWAYS, EVERY TIME, FOR 76 YEARS, REFUSED. Why? Because Goal #1 is Israeli genocide.

Only one of the two groups is willing to live in peace. If you don't believe that stance forces the other's hand...you're not living in the real world.

Again, for the umpteenth time: There are no heroes. Israel should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for war crimes, which I absolutely condemn in the strongest possible terms. But I'm speaking as a longtime negotiator, at the table, WHO HAS NO ANSWER to the constant counter of self-genocide.

Nor, as I've shown, does anybody else.

"That is simply not true. Rabin was willing to live in peace."

So after all this time, you've found ONE?

Talk to me about the Hamas Charter, and find me the equivalent in the Israeli one.

"Israel abandoned the Two State Solution."

BECAUSE HAMAS WOULD NOT ABANDON THEIR "ONE STATE" SOLUTION. At least be honest about what's happening at the negotiating table.

"You're living in the past."

Really?

What's Hamas's current counter-offer? As of TODAY, what's their offer???

"They've been offered rule over Gaza with an iron fist and they get to keep Goal #1 intact."

See the problem there?

If my first and main demand is the destruction of you and your family, and the confiscation of all your possessions...

...what's your counter-offer? I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR DAYS. No one seems to have any answer.

Myself included.

See the problem there?

"Why isn't Israel considered to be a non Viable country and partitioned like Yugoslavia was?"

Why don't you pick up a ------- history book and find out?

"Israel's answer for the past 25 years is to support the terrorists,"

Whoa.

Israel's answer was not to block aid.

It was HAMAS who chose guns over butter. The results speak for themselves.

"Israel came about through dispossessing a half million Palestinians"

Pick up McCullough's book on Truman, please.

"you can keep pretending Israel was some sort of groundswell of popular opinion"

More like the option of last resort.

And, for the record, there has STILL been no serious counter-offer. Probably because there is none. You remember the decade before 1948, right?