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Sunday, May 26, 2024

Russian President Vladimir Putin is ready to halt the war in Ukraine with a negotiated ceasefire that recognises the current battlefield lines, four Russian sources told Reuters, saying he is prepared to fight on if Kyiv and the West do not respond.

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"Asked about the Reuters report at a news conference in Belarus on Friday, Putin said peace talks should restart.

"Let them resume," he said, adding that negotiations should be based on "the realities on the ground" and on a plan agreed during a previous attempt to reach a deal in the first weeks of the war. "Not on the basis of what one side wants," he said.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on X that the Russian leader was trying to derail a Ukrainian-initiated peace summit in Switzerland next month by using his entourage to send out "phony signals" about his alleged readiness to halt the war.

"Putin currently has no desire to end his aggression against Ukraine. Only the principled and united voice of the global majority can force him to choose peace over war," said Kuleba.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian presidential adviser, said Putin wanted Western democracies to accept defeat."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-24 11:54 PM | Reply

"Based on their knowledge of conversations in the upper ranks of the Kremlin, two of the sources said Putin was of the view that gains in the war so far were enough to sell a victory to the Russian people.

Europe's biggest ground conflict since World War Two has cost tens of thousands of lives on both sides and led to sweeping Western sanctions on Russia's economy.

Three sources said Putin understood any dramatic new advances would require another nationwide mobilisation, which he didn't want, with one source, who knows the Russian president, saying his popularity dipped after the first mobilisation in September 2022.

The national call up spooked part of the population in Russia, triggering hundreds of thousands of draft age men to leave the country. Polls showed Putin's popularity falling by several points."

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-24 11:57 PM | Reply

"SWISS TALKS
The Swiss peace summit in June is aimed at unifying international opinion on how to end the war. The talks were convened at the initiative of Zelenskiy who has said Putin should not attend. Switzerland has not invited Russia.

Moscow has said the talks are not credible without it being there. Ukraine and Switzerland want Russian allies including China to attend.

Speaking in China on May 17, Putin said Ukraine may use the Swiss talks to get a broader group of countries to back Zelenskiy's demand for a total Russian withdrawal, which Putin said would be an imposed condition rather than a serious peace negotiation.

The Swiss foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In response to questions for this story, a U.S. State Department spokesperson said any initiative for peace must respect Ukraine's "territorial integrity, within its internationally recognised borders" and described Russia as the sole obstacle to peace in Ukraine.

"The Kremlin has yet to demonstrate any meaningful interest in ending its war, quite the opposite," the spokesperson said."

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SO it does look like this is an effort to avoid Swiss Talks, where stopping the war at current battle fronts would likely be off the table... as they should be.

Because rewarding aggression is just asking for more aggression.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-25 12:00 AM | Reply

"Let's talk about Putin's promise of peace in Ukraine....

Beau of the Fifth Column

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Beau's take is that Vlad's new Military leader, the economist thought to be putting Russia on a war footing, has told him that won't work; that continuing the war and then getting to the hard part, the Occupation, would cost more than it's worth.

Which was always the case; this was never going to werk unless it could be done quickly without getting bogged down. And Nato, including the new Members Vlad has recruited for them, is now committed for years of backing Ukraine.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-25 12:33 AM | Reply

aid Putin wanted Western democracies to accept defeat.

Sounds like a guy bragging that he broke the other guy's hand with his face.

Even IF Russia keeps the ground it's taken, it's at the cost of it's modern military, which was shown to be wholly inadequate and nowhere near as well equipped or proficient as thought.

If he didn't have nukes, he'd be nothing.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-25 02:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

People in Hell want ice water. Death to Russia.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-25 11:27 AM | Reply

NEW

"Amid reports that Russian President Vladimir Putin was considering a new ceasefire deal with Ukraine, Moscow's envoy to the United States has outlined to Newsweek where the Kremlin stands on the prospects of bringing an end to Europe's deadliest war in decades."

"At a time when the Russian military has made key gains toward Ukraine's second-largest city of Kharkiv, breaking a yearlong stalemate, Antonov stated that "there can be no talk of any "freezing' of the conflict" and the Russian leader "did not say anything like this."

"Let me emphasize that any Russian-Ukrainian agreements must take into account the situation 'on the ground,'" he said.

"Retreat or withdrawal of the Russian Federation Armed Forces to hypothetical dividing lines is excluded. Let us remind you: there is a Constitution of Russia. The borders of our state, which include new federal subjects, are clearly marked there."

www.newsweek.com

So, not really new. Vlad wants to be rewarded for his aggression with new borders.

What he prolly really wants is a break while he replaces all the Military leaders he's arrested.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-25 02:47 PM | Reply

If he didn't have nukes, he'd be nothing.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-25 02:22 AM | Reply | Flag

LMAO

Look at junior figurin' ---- out.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-25 08:36 PM | Reply

#8

---- figured him out long ago.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-25 10:02 PM | Reply

---- figured him out long ago.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-25 10:02 PM | Reply | Flag

Not a bad response from a half a bag of soap.

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-26 12:25 AM | Reply

10

Like all your other posts, a claim, not an argument.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-26 12:06 PM | Reply

Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight

I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR, yeah

Been away so long I early knew the place
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone

I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind

Oh, come on
Hu hey hu, hey, ah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind

Oh, show me round your snow peaked
Mountain way down south
Take me to your daddy's farm
Let me hear your balalaika's ringing out
Come and keep your comrade warm

I'm back in the USSR
Hey, you don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR
Oh, let me tell you, honey

Songwriters: John Lennon / Paul McCartney

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#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-26 12:31 PM | Reply

Not a bad response from a half a bag of soap. #10 | Posted by lfthndthrds

What is this phrase you keep using? I'm genuinely curious.

#13 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-26 04:39 PM | Reply

Putin's not in enough pain to really want a ceasefire. He's hoping Ukraine's in so much pain that it's willing to cease this battle of wits vs attrition. Ukraine has revolutionized warfare for generations, and as Ukraine invents more weapons to multiply its resources, Putin tech engineers innovate solutions to counter Ukraine's innovations and then Ukraine's invent ways to counter Russia's counter innovations. What's happening is that as Russia's warehouses of ancient weapons are consumed, both sides are inventing new lower cost precision weapons and countermeasures.

Unfortunately for Ukraine, its political system finds it disgusting to kill so many young Russian conscripts as Putin sends as cannon fodder, and even at personnel loss rates half that of Russia's, every Ukrainian life lost hurts Ukraine 100x more than any Russian conscripts' lives hurts Putin's side. Plus Putin knows he can mobilize 3x as many as Ukraine and he can buy mercenaries from Chad, Niger and other poor lands at a fraction of what Russian conscripts cost.

So, Putin's proposal isn't a true ceasefire, it's an offer for Ukraine to surrender on Putin's untrustworthy terms:

1. For Ukraine to permanently cede to Russia, the occupied AND Russian unoccupied parts of the Oblasts that "annexed" by Putin's 2022 proclamation, this includes Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia,
2. and to recognize Crimea as a Russian Federation State,
3. and to agree to the stipulation that Ukraine will never become part of the European Union or NATO.

And what would Russia agree to? Who cares? Whatever deal Putin makes never makes a difference to Putin or his sham government.

#14 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-05-27 09:17 AM | Reply

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