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Sunday, July 21, 2024

When Florida real estate professional Susan Hicks discovered the app Forewarn over a year ago, she was shocked to learn that for a service costing about $20 a month she could instantly retrieve detailed data on prospective clients with only their phone number.

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... "For anybody who's had exposure to this, usually the first time they see it, it blows their mind," Hicks told Recorded Future News, adding that she enthusiastically recommends the tool to the brokers she manages. "It's incredible that there's that amount of information out there that you can just access with one click."

"It can be real creepy and you have to swear that you're not going to use it in a wrong manner," Hicks added, referring to Forewarn rules which say real estate agents can't share data from the app publicly or with third parties, or use the app to pull information on non-professional contacts.

Forewarn is primarily marketed to and used by the real estate industry, and it has been penetrating that market at a rapid clip. Although some real estate agents say the financial information it returns saves time when finding clients most likely to have the budget for the houses they're looking at, most agents and associations tout it primarily as a safety tool because it also supplies criminal records.

In addition to those records, the product -- owned by the data broker red violet -- also supplies a given individual's address history; phone, vehicle and property records; bankruptcies; and liens and judgements, including foreclosure histories. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-21 12:09 PM | Reply

Here's the thing... real estate professionals have always dealt with problematic people's problems and how to wangle around the system. In good times they get the cream of the crop... when times get tough they'll take the dregs. Whatever. Make the sale.

#2 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-21 08:46 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Here's the thing... real estate professionals have always dealt with problematic people's problems and how to wangle around the system....

Yeah, but...

(ya had to know there'd be a "but" ... :)       )

... the product -- owned by the data broker red violet -- also supplies a given individual's address history; phone, vehicle and property records; bankruptcies; and liens and judgements, including foreclosure histories ...

All with just a phone number.


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-21 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now what happens when the information is wrong or out of date...as these services tend to be.

Quick note how these services work: They take information from the government data, such as a judgement, and they put it next to the name and information that it most closely matches. A misspelling in the docket? Wrong person. Little corresponding information like no address or birthdate? Uses its best guess. The information hasn't been updated at the source? Oh well, sucks for you.

Welcome to Lawsuit Heaven. Ask the major data brokers how that one worked and WHY they have to do insane credentialing before anyone can use the service.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-07-22 01:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good to know. Next time I want to buy a house I'll pick up a burner with cash.

No reason they should have any info at all.

#5 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-07-22 12:47 PM | Reply

. "the product -- owned by the data broker red violet -- also supplies a given individual's address history; phone, vehicle and property records; bankruptcies; and liens and judgements, including foreclosure histories ..."

when financial institutions, employers, etc run this information then they typically have the customer/employee sign a form authorizing them to run this information.

I'm assuming no such form is being used currently but could be.

I don't have a problem with the information and if you have to hide the fact you run it then YOU are the problem. People are entitled to privacy. But the data is significant.

If it's worth knowing, then you can ask for the form to be signed to authorize collecting that data.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-22 01:05 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by Sycophant

FTA: The company's terms and conditions explicitly say that Forewarn does not guarantee its data's "accuracy, currentness, completeness, timeliness, or quality ... The services are provided AS IS.'"

So they appear to be saying we may be very wrong use at your own risk BUT their advertising doesn't say that and the article is calling out issues with they data. And in regard to your "Lawsuit Heaven" as if people aren't going to pull up the info in the app and take it as gospel.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-07-22 01:36 PM | Reply

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